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	<title>Comments on: The high price of animal shelters</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m biting my tongue on the nasty cat remarks above. :-( 

That sounds like an expensive shelter. My last two cats (both have since passed away and now we have 3 dogs) were adopted, one was a stray I rescued from the streets, and the other from a shelter run by the Defenders of Animal Rights. The cat I got from the shelter cost me $70 and brought me joy beyond any price. I can also say the same for the $700 pug we got from a breeder. I don&#039;t think about pets in terms of what they cost, they&#039;re like members of the family.

All the same, I think there are affordable adoption shelters in many places -- maybe the charges from your shelter were so high because their operating costs aren&#039;t covered by adoption fees and donations alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m biting my tongue on the nasty cat remarks above. :-( </p>
<p>That sounds like an expensive shelter. My last two cats (both have since passed away and now we have 3 dogs) were adopted, one was a stray I rescued from the streets, and the other from a shelter run by the Defenders of Animal Rights. The cat I got from the shelter cost me $70 and brought me joy beyond any price. I can also say the same for the $700 pug we got from a breeder. I don&#8217;t think about pets in terms of what they cost, they&#8217;re like members of the family.</p>
<p>All the same, I think there are affordable adoption shelters in many places &#8212; maybe the charges from your shelter were so high because their operating costs aren&#8217;t covered by adoption fees and donations alone?</p>
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		<title>By: ford4x4</title>
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		<dc:creator>ford4x4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to get a dog from the &quot;Humane Society&quot; last summer.   After finding out I&#039;d have a &quot;background check&quot; and pay about $200 to adopt him,  I ended up at the local puppy farm.    Kind of makes me think that the humane society does just the opposite of what it intends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to get a dog from the &#8220;Humane Society&#8221; last summer.   After finding out I&#8217;d have a &#8220;background check&#8221; and pay about $200 to adopt him,  I ended up at the local puppy farm.    Kind of makes me think that the humane society does just the opposite of what it intends.</p>
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		<title>By: Harriet Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harriet Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noted New York City Veterinarian for decades, Dr. Louis J. Camutti, had people like the cat owners mentioned in the article who didn&#039;t have time to train their cats, so they had the cat&#039;s paws dismembered, disfigured, crippled, maimed, instead.  Dr. Camutti said in his book, All My Patients are Under the Bed: &quot;Just the request, itself (to maim healthy animal limbs) is an indication that the household is not suited for a cat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noted New York City Veterinarian for decades, Dr. Louis J. Camutti, had people like the cat owners mentioned in the article who didn&#8217;t have time to train their cats, so they had the cat&#8217;s paws dismembered, disfigured, crippled, maimed, instead.  Dr. Camutti said in his book, All My Patients are Under the Bed: &#8220;Just the request, itself (to maim healthy animal limbs) is an indication that the household is not suited for a cat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Aqui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Aqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 15:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan: Well, maybe we just got suckered.... But that was pretty much the going rate at the various shelters we visited: $100 and up per animal. Outstate it was much lower; if we had cared to drive to Austin, Minn., we could have had &#039;em for $50 apiece.

Cats need to be socialized when they&#039;re young, otherwise they can be very standoffish as adults. That means gently holding them and petting them for a few minutes longer than they would prefer. Gradually, they get used to (and like) longer and longer petting sessions.

But it also depends on the breed: both domestic longhairs we&#039;ve had couldn&#039;t get enough attention. They were so affectionate you felt like you were being stalked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan: Well, maybe we just got suckered&#8230;. But that was pretty much the going rate at the various shelters we visited: $100 and up per animal. Outstate it was much lower; if we had cared to drive to Austin, Minn., we could have had &#8216;em for $50 apiece.</p>
<p>Cats need to be socialized when they&#8217;re young, otherwise they can be very standoffish as adults. That means gently holding them and petting them for a few minutes longer than they would prefer. Gradually, they get used to (and like) longer and longer petting sessions.</p>
<p>But it also depends on the breed: both domestic longhairs we&#8217;ve had couldn&#8217;t get enough attention. They were so affectionate you felt like you were being stalked.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strike that &quot;cat&#039;s&quot; and replace it with the proper pluralization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strike that &#8220;cat&#8217;s&#8221; and replace it with the proper pluralization.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know how you ended up paying $150 for a cat at an animal shelter. When my girlfriend and I got our dog, Albert, from the Athens-Clarke County animal rescue, it was $50 total (well, for the animal shelter - apartment fees were $300) and I am sure a cat would have been less.

In defense of cats, many of the screwed up cats I know are screwed up because of (previous) bad owners. Cats require training and if they are not trained properly, they&#039;ll be total cock-ups. My family got our cat in 1993 (from a shelter) for $15, we trained him properly with the appropriate positive and negative reinforcements, and he has been good. He became mean after my parents were divorced and mom&#039;s boyfriend didn&#039;t treat him as a cat.

Cat&#039;s are simple creatures. Play their game, it&#039;s only a small one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how you ended up paying $150 for a cat at an animal shelter. When my girlfriend and I got our dog, Albert, from the Athens-Clarke County animal rescue, it was $50 total (well, for the animal shelter &#8211; apartment fees were $300) and I am sure a cat would have been less.</p>
<p>In defense of cats, many of the screwed up cats I know are screwed up because of (previous) bad owners. Cats require training and if they are not trained properly, they&#8217;ll be total cock-ups. My family got our cat in 1993 (from a shelter) for $15, we trained him properly with the appropriate positive and negative reinforcements, and he has been good. He became mean after my parents were divorced and mom&#8217;s boyfriend didn&#8217;t treat him as a cat.</p>
<p>Cat&#8217;s are simple creatures. Play their game, it&#8217;s only a small one.</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DosPeros,

Thanks for the giggle you gave me on Friday morning. I will have to check my closets for circus midgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DosPeros,</p>
<p>Thanks for the giggle you gave me on Friday morning. I will have to check my closets for circus midgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Dyre42</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dyre42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know Sean I had the same problem with my cat meaning the &quot;attack the feet under the covers&quot; thing. Eventually It ended up being unintentionally punted across the room and off the opposite wall and never had that problem again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know Sean I had the same problem with my cat meaning the &#8220;attack the feet under the covers&#8221; thing. Eventually It ended up being unintentionally punted across the room and off the opposite wall and never had that problem again.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are circus midgets, but that doesn&#039;t mean I want one living and shitting in my closet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are circus midgets, but that doesn&#8217;t mean I want one living and shitting in my closet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: confused</title>
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		<dc:creator>confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weighing on the cats&#039; defense; they are an unending source of amusement and entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weighing on the cats&#8217; defense; they are an unending source of amusement and entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Aqui</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Aqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, they do worse than that: they make it clear that if they were bigger, they&#039;d try to eat &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt;. As is, I have to be careful about wiggling my toes for fear of attack by a near-soundless carnivore.

On the other hand, they&#039;re great foot and hand warmers on cold nights.

My two favorite lines about the difference between cats and dogs:

1. A dog looked at his owner and thought, &quot;He feeds me, cleans up after me and takes care of my every need. He must be a god.&quot;  A cat looked at his owner and thought, &quot;He feeds me, cleans up after me and takes care of my every need. I must be a god.&quot;

2. When a dog misbehaves and you yell at it, it thinks &quot;I did something wrong. I&#039;ll do better next time.&quot; When a cat misbehaves and you yell at it, it thinks &quot;People are mean.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, they do worse than that: they make it clear that if they were bigger, they&#8217;d try to eat <i>you</i>. As is, I have to be careful about wiggling my toes for fear of attack by a near-soundless carnivore.</p>
<p>On the other hand, they&#8217;re great foot and hand warmers on cold nights.</p>
<p>My two favorite lines about the difference between cats and dogs:</p>
<p>1. A dog looked at his owner and thought, &#8220;He feeds me, cleans up after me and takes care of my every need. He must be a god.&#8221;  A cat looked at his owner and thought, &#8220;He feeds me, cleans up after me and takes care of my every need. I must be a god.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. When a dog misbehaves and you yell at it, it thinks &#8220;I did something wrong. I&#8217;ll do better next time.&#8221; When a cat misbehaves and you yell at it, it thinks &#8220;People are mean.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uum Sean, I hate to be the one tell you this, but your first mistake was to buy a CAT.  

Just the idea that a CAT would have some monetary value is funny - it does nothing, it produces nothing, it has no talent and its personality generally suck (unless they around dogs and then the K-9 personality wears off on it.)

  Cats suck.  They shit in a box in your house.  They aren&#039;t friendly unless THEY WANT TO BE FRIENDLY - its like they are always on the rag.  Do yourself a favor, kill&#039;em, skin&#039;em and eat&#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uum Sean, I hate to be the one tell you this, but your first mistake was to buy a CAT.  </p>
<p>Just the idea that a CAT would have some monetary value is funny &#8211; it does nothing, it produces nothing, it has no talent and its personality generally suck (unless they around dogs and then the K-9 personality wears off on it.)</p>
<p>  Cats suck.  They shit in a box in your house.  They aren&#8217;t friendly unless THEY WANT TO BE FRIENDLY &#8211; its like they are always on the rag.  Do yourself a favor, kill&#8217;em, skin&#8217;em and eat&#8217;em.</p>
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