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	<title>Comments on: Why Imus Should Have Been Fired</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/12/why-imus-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-2/#comment-308312</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to free markets. The sponsors pulling out their money may be a market decision but it is NOT a free market decisions. Using the word &quot;free&quot; makes it sound like it was just. A free market, as it is generally understood, relies on the most number of people as possible affecting a product or decision. That did not happen here. Nobody other than those who got hysterical got an opportunity to voice their opinions in the Imus matter.

Besides, I&#039;m always far more comfortable with the viewing audience making decisions on what should or should not be broadcast. I don&#039;t like the idea that corporations are deciding what is and is not appropriate for America. They weild power with their money, but it&#039;s the viewers that are the true market. Let&#039;s not pretend that it&#039;s a GOOD thing that corporations are making moral judgments for us. That&#039;s not a pretty road to follow.

And yes, I realize I&#039;m being idealistic. But as a strong supporter of free markets, I hate to see the term abused to make a suspect decision seem to be an appropriate, well-considered one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to free markets. The sponsors pulling out their money may be a market decision but it is NOT a free market decisions. Using the word &#8220;free&#8221; makes it sound like it was just. A free market, as it is generally understood, relies on the most number of people as possible affecting a product or decision. That did not happen here. Nobody other than those who got hysterical got an opportunity to voice their opinions in the Imus matter.</p>
<p>Besides, I&#8217;m always far more comfortable with the viewing audience making decisions on what should or should not be broadcast. I don&#8217;t like the idea that corporations are deciding what is and is not appropriate for America. They weild power with their money, but it&#8217;s the viewers that are the true market. Let&#8217;s not pretend that it&#8217;s a GOOD thing that corporations are making moral judgments for us. That&#8217;s not a pretty road to follow.</p>
<p>And yes, I realize I&#8217;m being idealistic. But as a strong supporter of free markets, I hate to see the term abused to make a suspect decision seem to be an appropriate, well-considered one.</p>
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		<title>By: grognard</title>
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		<dc:creator>grognard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of the free market why do advertisers still support radio or TV programs that have appearances by Snoop or 50 cent? After reading some of the things said about black women in Rap lyrics the comments by Imus are lame by comparison. If there is to be an honest discussion of this issue then ANY denigration of black women, regardless of the source, must be part of the agenda.  I work with some black women that are administrators and critical care nurses, I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t care about you race, referring to these women as ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œHosÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? is just plain wrong. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of the free market why do advertisers still support radio or TV programs that have appearances by Snoop or 50 cent? After reading some of the things said about black women in Rap lyrics the comments by Imus are lame by comparison. If there is to be an honest discussion of this issue then ANY denigration of black women, regardless of the source, must be part of the agenda.  I work with some black women that are administrators and critical care nurses, I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t care about you race, referring to these women as ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œHosÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? is just plain wrong. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmy, mea culpa.

Looks like it&#039;s time for Sharpton to go too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmy, mea culpa.</p>
<p>Looks like it&#8217;s time for Sharpton to go too?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While wer&#039;e discussing his comment...

The term NAPPY HEADED HO is not racist... AT ALL.

Nappy means &quot;kinky&quot;. I know people of several different races with nappy hair.

Ho&#039;s isn&#039;t racist, it&#039;s simply degrading and offensive.

So at the MOST, due to the context with which Imus used the phrase, &quot;nappy headed ho&#039;s&quot; was &quot;offensive&quot; and that&#039;s IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While wer&#8217;e discussing his comment&#8230;</p>
<p>The term NAPPY HEADED HO is not racist&#8230; AT ALL.</p>
<p>Nappy means &#8220;kinky&#8221;. I know people of several different races with nappy hair.</p>
<p>Ho&#8217;s isn&#8217;t racist, it&#8217;s simply degrading and offensive.</p>
<p>So at the MOST, due to the context with which Imus used the phrase, &#8220;nappy headed ho&#8217;s&#8221; was &#8220;offensive&#8221; and that&#8217;s IT.</p>
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		<title>By: rachel</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;DoesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t anyone know what the words ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œnappy headed hoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? mean? Nappy headed means bad hair! Ho is slang for female.&quot;
&quot;Ho&quot; is an alternative pronunciation and spelling of &quot;whore.&quot; Perhaps your female relatives don&#039;t mind being called that, but most women dislike it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;DoesnÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t anyone know what the words ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œnappy headed hoÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚? mean? Nappy headed means bad hair! Ho is slang for female.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Ho&#8221; is an alternative pronunciation and spelling of &#8220;whore.&#8221; Perhaps your female relatives don&#8217;t mind being called that, but most women dislike it.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 14:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jimmy, to call Al Sharpton a race-baiting, hypocritical, two-bit huckster is soooooooooooo racist.  Criticism of your moral superiors, such as Al Sharpton, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson will not be tolerated.  You will bow like the bigot mut that you are to the altar of this progressive gods -- and by the way, my Jewish grandmother took great offense and would like to subject you to a 4 hour coffee session next Sunday.  Justin - just kick this clan member off already - Imus&#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jimmy, to call Al Sharpton a race-baiting, hypocritical, two-bit huckster is soooooooooooo racist.  Criticism of your moral superiors, such as Al Sharpton, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson will not be tolerated.  You will bow like the bigot mut that you are to the altar of this progressive gods &#8212; and by the way, my Jewish grandmother took great offense and would like to subject you to a 4 hour coffee session next Sunday.  Justin &#8211; just kick this clan member off already &#8211; Imus&#8217;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo Slice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimbo Slice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolutely utterly ridiculous! Doesn&#039;t anyone know what the words &quot;nappy headed ho&quot; mean? Nappy headed means bad hair! Ho is slang for female. Neither of those things are complimentary but never have those words been racist in the entire history of this nation! 
Just because some fool journalist puts &quot;racially charged&quot; in his column&#039;s description doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s racist! You&#039;re going to tell me that whenever I say nappy it&#039;s the same as saying nigger? What&#039;s next? How far can NAACP go? Will they keep me from saying orange, or chair, or ragged? The only racists in this issue are the NAACP. They are hypocrits and malicious jerks. Al Sharpton is supposed to be a reverend, but forgiveness is the last thing on his mind. Jesse Jackson is a freakin&#039; adulterer. These are the people who are being allowed to represent black america?
Don Imus made a living out of shocking insulting entertainment. If you didn&#039;t agree you didn&#039;t have to listen. Much worse is on the screens of 90% of Hollywood movies but no one&#039;s attacking them! This wasn&#039;t racial, and even if it was, so freaking what!! Does that mean you have the right to destroy his life, strip him of all dignity, take his job away, end his ability to support his family,label him a racist for non racist words, and make him the fall guy for any black bigot NAACP jerk that wants to hurt him?! 
Don Imus has the right to free speech without being destroyed for it.
Al Sharpton and everybody else DO NOT have the Constitutional right &quot;to not be offended&quot;. Utterly ridiculous. The only real solution is to send Imus&#039; attackers to jail for verbal assault, slander, libel, and wanton disregard for Imus&#039; rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolutely utterly ridiculous! Doesn&#8217;t anyone know what the words &#8220;nappy headed ho&#8221; mean? Nappy headed means bad hair! Ho is slang for female. Neither of those things are complimentary but never have those words been racist in the entire history of this nation!<br />
Just because some fool journalist puts &#8220;racially charged&#8221; in his column&#8217;s description doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s racist! You&#8217;re going to tell me that whenever I say nappy it&#8217;s the same as saying nigger? What&#8217;s next? How far can NAACP go? Will they keep me from saying orange, or chair, or ragged? The only racists in this issue are the NAACP. They are hypocrits and malicious jerks. Al Sharpton is supposed to be a reverend, but forgiveness is the last thing on his mind. Jesse Jackson is a freakin&#8217; adulterer. These are the people who are being allowed to represent black america?<br />
Don Imus made a living out of shocking insulting entertainment. If you didn&#8217;t agree you didn&#8217;t have to listen. Much worse is on the screens of 90% of Hollywood movies but no one&#8217;s attacking them! This wasn&#8217;t racial, and even if it was, so freaking what!! Does that mean you have the right to destroy his life, strip him of all dignity, take his job away, end his ability to support his family,label him a racist for non racist words, and make him the fall guy for any black bigot NAACP jerk that wants to hurt him?!<br />
Don Imus has the right to free speech without being destroyed for it.<br />
Al Sharpton and everybody else DO NOT have the Constitutional right &#8220;to not be offended&#8221;. Utterly ridiculous. The only real solution is to send Imus&#8217; attackers to jail for verbal assault, slander, libel, and wanton disregard for Imus&#8217; rights.</p>
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		<title>By: ascap_scab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ascap_scab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reconstitution.us/seren/archives/2156-Imus..html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full comments here&lt;/a&gt;, but the punchline is: &quot;I&#039;m no fan of Don Imus, but what we have just witnessed is a someone getting the death sentence for a jay-walking ticket.

P.S. A bombing IN the Green Zone kills eight, including parliament members, but that&#039;s not really important.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get my <a href="http://www.reconstitution.us/seren/archives/2156-Imus..html#comments" rel="nofollow">full comments here</a>, but the punchline is: &#8220;I&#8217;m no fan of Don Imus, but what we have just witnessed is a someone getting the death sentence for a jay-walking ticket.</p>
<p>P.S. A bombing IN the Green Zone kills eight, including parliament members, but that&#8217;s not really important.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ascap_scab</title>
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		<dc:creator>ascap_scab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reconstitution.us/seren/archives/2156-Imus..html#comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;full comments here&lt;/a&gt;, but the punch line is: &quot;I&#039;m no fan of Don Imus, but what we have just witnessed is a someone getting the death sentence for a jay-walking ticket.

P.S. A bombing IN the Green Zone kills eight, including parliament members, but that&#039;s not really important.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get my <a href="http://www.reconstitution.us/seren/archives/2156-Imus..html#comments" rel="nofollow">full comments here</a>, but the punch line is: &#8220;I&#8217;m no fan of Don Imus, but what we have just witnessed is a someone getting the death sentence for a jay-walking ticket.</p>
<p>P.S. A bombing IN the Green Zone kills eight, including parliament members, but that&#8217;s not really important.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Norte</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Norte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is economic driven racism.  2008 will go down in history as a year where IMUS is fired and Issah Washington wins an NAACP award.  If it is not economicallly driven, then what is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is economic driven racism.  2008 will go down in history as a year where IMUS is fired and Issah Washington wins an NAACP award.  If it is not economicallly driven, then what is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/12/why-imus-should-have-been-fired/comment-page-1/#comment-306556</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 02:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>click the link</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>click the link</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jimmy, it wasn&#039;t okay for Imus to talk trash about African Americans and it&#039;s not okay for you to do the same with Jews here.

Don&#039;t ever use that bigoted term again in any comments section or you&#039;re gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jimmy, it wasn&#8217;t okay for Imus to talk trash about African Americans and it&#8217;s not okay for you to do the same with Jews here.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t ever use that bigoted term again in any comments section or you&#8217;re gone.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I portrayed Richard Pryor as a pimp. They said it perpetuated a negative stereotype. I disagreed with that then, as I disagree with it now. I was merely paying homage to his role in The Mack and how that would have translated to Star Wars if his character had replaced YodaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I probably would have just given you a wedgy for being a huge nerd.;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I portrayed Richard Pryor as a pimp. They said it perpetuated a negative stereotype. I disagreed with that then, as I disagree with it now. I was merely paying homage to his role in The Mack and how that would have translated to Star Wars if his character had replaced YodaÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â¦</p></blockquote>
<p>I probably would have just given you a wedgy for being a huge nerd.;)</p>
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		<title>By: AG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economics or not people are to damn sensitive these days. I&#039;ve never been particularly fond of Imus but as far as I&#039;m concerned he can say whatever the hell he wants. Did millions of people suddenly forget that the man is a shock-jock, he is in the business of making controversial statements. The sponsors would have never pulled out if there wasn&#039;t such a fuss made about this. People like to cry racism and this case is very much about racism - on both sides. If Imus were a black man would he have been fired? Certainly not, nor would there have been any coverage whatsoever. How this was even news in the first place amazes me. I suppose though this is the world we live in nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economics or not people are to damn sensitive these days. I&#8217;ve never been particularly fond of Imus but as far as I&#8217;m concerned he can say whatever the hell he wants. Did millions of people suddenly forget that the man is a shock-jock, he is in the business of making controversial statements. The sponsors would have never pulled out if there wasn&#8217;t such a fuss made about this. People like to cry racism and this case is very much about racism &#8211; on both sides. If Imus were a black man would he have been fired? Certainly not, nor would there have been any coverage whatsoever. How this was even news in the first place amazes me. I suppose though this is the world we live in nowadays.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all this talk about advertising revenue influencing the network&#039;s bottom line, how can you be sure that that Al shrarpton isn&#039;t &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVJ14uL22R4&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jewing the numbers up and down?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all this talk about advertising revenue influencing the network&#8217;s bottom line, how can you be sure that that Al shrarpton isn&#8217;t <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVJ14uL22R4' rel="nofollow">Jewing the numbers up and down?</a></p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
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		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 20:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan, 

No, I don&#039;t define a free market as just corporate decision-makers.  I define it as anyone who wants to spend money getting to decide what they want to spend money on.  Consider: a &quot;free press&quot; only means that anyone with a printing set-up can publish, not that anyone who wants to publish an opinion gets someone to do the publishing for free, or that anyone who wants to hear an opinion gets a guarantee that someone else will print it so he can read it.  Unless there are only a handful of presses, and no way to get another one, that&#039;s not a controlled market. 

As for the media mob: sure, they looked rather like one.  But so what?  Last I looked, those media folks just provide a service for the advertisers, not the other way around.  If the advertisers think Imus will sell their products, they could care less what pundits (in or out of the media) think of him.  Some of us may forget who the customer is here -- but the people running the media sure know (no matter what they like to posture about in public).  

If Imus has enough fans, that are willing to pony up money to hear him, he can always go with subscriptions.  If he has people with money who are willing to buy him air-time, there will be stations willing to take the money and broadcast.  I don&#039;t know how to set something like that up . . . but then, I wouldn&#039;t have known how to set up a PayPal deal like Michael Totten uses to pay for his reporting trips.  If there&#039;s a demand, someone will figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, </p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t define a free market as just corporate decision-makers.  I define it as anyone who wants to spend money getting to decide what they want to spend money on.  Consider: a &#8220;free press&#8221; only means that anyone with a printing set-up can publish, not that anyone who wants to publish an opinion gets someone to do the publishing for free, or that anyone who wants to hear an opinion gets a guarantee that someone else will print it so he can read it.  Unless there are only a handful of presses, and no way to get another one, that&#8217;s not a controlled market. </p>
<p>As for the media mob: sure, they looked rather like one.  But so what?  Last I looked, those media folks just provide a service for the advertisers, not the other way around.  If the advertisers think Imus will sell their products, they could care less what pundits (in or out of the media) think of him.  Some of us may forget who the customer is here &#8212; but the people running the media sure know (no matter what they like to posture about in public).  </p>
<p>If Imus has enough fans, that are willing to pony up money to hear him, he can always go with subscriptions.  If he has people with money who are willing to buy him air-time, there will be stations willing to take the money and broadcast.  I don&#8217;t know how to set something like that up . . . but then, I wouldn&#8217;t have known how to set up a PayPal deal like Michael Totten uses to pay for his reporting trips.  If there&#8217;s a demand, someone will figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re right. ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s not about liberals not wanting free speech. They just want their own speech heard (like the Dixie Twits) and then shut down everyone else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah...you totally nailed it...great argument...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>YouÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢re right. ItÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s not about liberals not wanting free speech. They just want their own speech heard (like the Dixie Twits) and then shut down everyone else.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah&#8230;you totally nailed it&#8230;great argument&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And, besides, IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m blaming this on the media mobsters, not the sponsors. The sponsors got backed into a corner by the pitchfork mob. I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t blame them.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whoa, whoa, whoa. The advertisers pay for the media to exist. Remember the Rosanne kiss? Remember the advertisers threatening boycotts because people complained? It&#039;s nearly always about the advertisers. There are numerous examples to show that this is trend. And while these decisions can work the other way sometimes, it&#039;s usually stupid stuff like they focus on the &quot;Runaway Bride&quot; or Anna Nicole. 

No, the Imus thing filtered up to the media instead of down from the media. CBS suspended him because of the pressure that outside groups placed on the advertisers...who then pulled out of Imus&#039; show.

Sometimes it can work the other way where management just nips it in the bud immediately. I think that&#039;s how it went down with Michael Savage, after he made some bigoted comments about gays. But it&#039;s usually pressure from the people who put pressure on the advertisers who put pressure on the media.

And yes, the media is a controlled market. They have advertisers who pay them lots of money to produce programming. There have to be standards...and so we have the FCC and ethics. But free market principles still govern what stays on the air. And by the way, there really is no such thing as a free market in this country in my opinion. Everything is governed by a set of rules or limitations of some sort.

As to what&#039;s bigoted and what&#039;s not...that&#039;s going to be a continuous debate. I was called a misogynist by somebody in college because I drew a cartoon that had a character referring to women as &quot;chicks.&quot; Was that enough for the paper to fire me? Nope, the market supported that speech. But I did have a cartoon pulled from publication because I portrayed Richard Pryor as a pimp. They said it perpetuated a negative stereotype. I disagreed with that then, as I disagree with it now. I was merely paying homage to his role in The Mack and how that would have translated to Star Wars if his character had replaced Yoda...something which they didn&#039;t understand until after they decided to pull it without telling me. Oh well.

In any event, all cases are different, but if somebody says something transparently bigoted on the air...yes, he or she should be fired. This isn&#039;t public access.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And, besides, IÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m blaming this on the media mobsters, not the sponsors. The sponsors got backed into a corner by the pitchfork mob. I donÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t blame them.</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa, whoa, whoa. The advertisers pay for the media to exist. Remember the Rosanne kiss? Remember the advertisers threatening boycotts because people complained? It&#8217;s nearly always about the advertisers. There are numerous examples to show that this is trend. And while these decisions can work the other way sometimes, it&#8217;s usually stupid stuff like they focus on the &#8220;Runaway Bride&#8221; or Anna Nicole. </p>
<p>No, the Imus thing filtered up to the media instead of down from the media. CBS suspended him because of the pressure that outside groups placed on the advertisers&#8230;who then pulled out of Imus&#8217; show.</p>
<p>Sometimes it can work the other way where management just nips it in the bud immediately. I think that&#8217;s how it went down with Michael Savage, after he made some bigoted comments about gays. But it&#8217;s usually pressure from the people who put pressure on the advertisers who put pressure on the media.</p>
<p>And yes, the media is a controlled market. They have advertisers who pay them lots of money to produce programming. There have to be standards&#8230;and so we have the FCC and ethics. But free market principles still govern what stays on the air. And by the way, there really is no such thing as a free market in this country in my opinion. Everything is governed by a set of rules or limitations of some sort.</p>
<p>As to what&#8217;s bigoted and what&#8217;s not&#8230;that&#8217;s going to be a continuous debate. I was called a misogynist by somebody in college because I drew a cartoon that had a character referring to women as &#8220;chicks.&#8221; Was that enough for the paper to fire me? Nope, the market supported that speech. But I did have a cartoon pulled from publication because I portrayed Richard Pryor as a pimp. They said it perpetuated a negative stereotype. I disagreed with that then, as I disagree with it now. I was merely paying homage to his role in The Mack and how that would have translated to Star Wars if his character had replaced Yoda&#8230;something which they didn&#8217;t understand until after they decided to pull it without telling me. Oh well.</p>
<p>In any event, all cases are different, but if somebody says something transparently bigoted on the air&#8230;yes, he or she should be fired. This isn&#8217;t public access.</p>
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		<title>By: SaneInSF</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaneInSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right. It&#039;s not about liberals not wanting free speech. They just want their own speech heard (like the Dixie Twits) and then shut down everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right. It&#8217;s not about liberals not wanting free speech. They just want their own speech heard (like the Dixie Twits) and then shut down everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: DosPeros</title>
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		<dc:creator>DosPeros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 19:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The freemarket is now offering &quot;nappy headed ho&quot; teddy bears.  The freemarket is a whore, no comment on the hair of the freemarket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The freemarket is now offering &#8220;nappy headed ho&#8221; teddy bears.  The freemarket is a whore, no comment on the hair of the freemarket.</p>
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