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	<title>Comments on: Bush&#8217;s Legacy: Nobody Trusts US</title>
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		<title>By: Damozel</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/20/bushs-legacy-few-trust-us/comment-page-1/#comment-313179</link>
		<dc:creator>Damozel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own thought---and this is strictly based on anecdotal evidence from talking to friends and family in England and Europe---that it&#039;s the Bush Administration they don&#039;t trust.  I think there is a certain attitude of &quot;What&#039;s WRONG with you people?&quot; springing out of the fact that we elected him at all, but I think most of them are aware that Americans, even Republicans, are pretty disillusioned with this Administration.

They didn&#039;t like Reagan or Bush Sr. either, I well remember.  In general, they have seen Republicans since Ford as trigger-happy religious nutjobs who think God is telling them what to do next (I&#039;m not agreeing with this, just saying what I&#039;ve seen).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own thought&#8212;and this is strictly based on anecdotal evidence from talking to friends and family in England and Europe&#8212;that it&#8217;s the Bush Administration they don&#8217;t trust.  I think there is a certain attitude of &#8220;What&#8217;s WRONG with you people?&#8221; springing out of the fact that we elected him at all, but I think most of them are aware that Americans, even Republicans, are pretty disillusioned with this Administration.</p>
<p>They didn&#8217;t like Reagan or Bush Sr. either, I well remember.  In general, they have seen Republicans since Ford as trigger-happy religious nutjobs who think God is telling them what to do next (I&#8217;m not agreeing with this, just saying what I&#8217;ve seen).</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/20/bushs-legacy-few-trust-us/comment-page-1/#comment-312537</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/23_01_07_us_poll.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here is the actual survey&lt;/a&gt;

Read and enjoy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/23_01_07_us_poll.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here is the actual survey</a></p>
<p>Read and enjoy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: SaneInSF</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/20/bushs-legacy-few-trust-us/comment-page-1/#comment-312521</link>
		<dc:creator>SaneInSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, did someone bother asking the Eastern Europeans? Or is this just yet again a grab of selective data to make a point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, did someone bother asking the Eastern Europeans? Or is this just yet again a grab of selective data to make a point?</p>
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		<title>By: sleipner</title>
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		<dc:creator>sleipner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly enough, I almost hope we have a Republican president next...because whoever it is will take over such a disaster in almost every arena that it will be almost impossible to recover, and will most likely get the boot in 2012.  Of course if he/she&#039;s a neocon they&#039;d only make matters worse, but I think even the sheeple the republicans have duped into voting for them have realized the utter stupidity of the neocon philosophy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly enough, I almost hope we have a Republican president next&#8230;because whoever it is will take over such a disaster in almost every arena that it will be almost impossible to recover, and will most likely get the boot in 2012.  Of course if he/she&#8217;s a neocon they&#8217;d only make matters worse, but I think even the sheeple the republicans have duped into voting for them have realized the utter stupidity of the neocon philosophy.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/04/20/bushs-legacy-few-trust-us/comment-page-1/#comment-312308</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That is the message behind a new multinational survey, released this week by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org, which showed that nations around the world reject the idea that the United States should play the role of preeminent world leader. A majority of respondents polled in 15 countries, representing about 56 percent of the worldÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s population &lt;b&gt;(the survey included China, India and Russia)&lt;/b&gt;, also said the United States cannot be trusted any longer ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œto act responsibly in the world.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?&lt;/i&gt;

Given the Bush administration&#039;s screwing of the pooch on many different matters (not just Iraq), I can hardly blame people of good will in other countries for this response. I wonder though, how many people (particularly in the countries I highlighted above) responded this way for reasons that have nothing to do with American bungling? As in, &quot;the United States shouldn&#039;t play the role of preeminent world leader... &lt;b&gt;my&lt;/b&gt; country should&quot;? (Or for that matter, &quot;Islam should&quot;?) And how many are simply wishing for a world without a superpower at all?

I also wonder how these responses will change once Bush is out of office. For those who just want some other country to have a turn at the top, or a world without a superpower, I doubt Bush&#039;s departure (no matter who replaces him) would make much of a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That is the message behind a new multinational survey, released this week by the Chicago Council on Global Affairs and WorldPublicOpinion.org, which showed that nations around the world reject the idea that the United States should play the role of preeminent world leader. A majority of respondents polled in 15 countries, representing about 56 percent of the worldÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s population <b>(the survey included China, India and Russia)</b>, also said the United States cannot be trusted any longer ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œto act responsibly in the world.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚?</i></p>
<p>Given the Bush administration&#8217;s screwing of the pooch on many different matters (not just Iraq), I can hardly blame people of good will in other countries for this response. I wonder though, how many people (particularly in the countries I highlighted above) responded this way for reasons that have nothing to do with American bungling? As in, &#8220;the United States shouldn&#8217;t play the role of preeminent world leader&#8230; <b>my</b> country should&#8221;? (Or for that matter, &#8220;Islam should&#8221;?) And how many are simply wishing for a world without a superpower at all?</p>
<p>I also wonder how these responses will change once Bush is out of office. For those who just want some other country to have a turn at the top, or a world without a superpower, I doubt Bush&#8217;s departure (no matter who replaces him) would make much of a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Center of Attention &#124; The Moderate Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Center of Attention &#124; The Moderate Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Justin Gardner summarizes Bush&#8217;s legacy: nobody trusts the US anymore. Hilzoy refuses to call Maureen Dowd catty because doing so&#8230; would be an insult to cats. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Justin Gardner summarizes Bush&#8217;s legacy: nobody trusts the US anymore. Hilzoy refuses to call Maureen Dowd catty because doing so&#8230; would be an insult to cats. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: wj</title>
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		<dc:creator>wj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would also be interesting to see the results of polling on that question IN THE U.S.  I&#039;m betting that the fall, even from 2002 (i.e. after the Bush administration was in place but before Iraq) to today would be pretty large as well.  This is one conservative, life-long Republican who has moved in that time from mildly dubious to totally unbelieving of anything that comes out of the administration.  Which, unfortunately, has also spread in that time to parts of the federal government not usually considered political arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would also be interesting to see the results of polling on that question IN THE U.S.  I&#8217;m betting that the fall, even from 2002 (i.e. after the Bush administration was in place but before Iraq) to today would be pretty large as well.  This is one conservative, life-long Republican who has moved in that time from mildly dubious to totally unbelieving of anything that comes out of the administration.  Which, unfortunately, has also spread in that time to parts of the federal government not usually considered political arms.</p>
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		<title>By: vwcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>vwcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 02:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The neocons had an agenda written up by Wolfowitz and Rummy in the Ford administration.  Plan b.  It was the basics of what became the PNAC policy.  Only it dealt with the Soviet Union.
The whole thing has been in the works for 30 years.  Until the stupid jerk in the White House got elected by the Supreme court, every president from Ford thru Clinton have given the neocons the boots and no thanks.
They are the ones that turned our policies, our reputation, our ideals into mush.  They want permanent war in the middle east.  after the fall of the Soviet Union, they identified the middle east as the ones to overtake.  Make it a democracy so they are like Israel and will play nice.
This is what the neocons agenda is.  To makeover the middle east so it&#039;s friends with Israel.  Cheney it is due to paranoia, meglomania, oil, and the imperial presidency.  War is fast tracked.  Rummy, it was his chance to remake his legacy of failure when sec of def. before.  To make the military an elite, fast, ligthweight strike force thing.
For Bush, it makes for great photo ops.  He can play dress up in Military stuff and strut around looking manly and have his picture taken.
A perfect storm of different agendas that came together as one under the bush Administration and taking down the middle east fit all their agendas.
There was no one reason.  there were several by several parties.  that is why no one can put their finger on the Why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The neocons had an agenda written up by Wolfowitz and Rummy in the Ford administration.  Plan b.  It was the basics of what became the PNAC policy.  Only it dealt with the Soviet Union.<br />
The whole thing has been in the works for 30 years.  Until the stupid jerk in the White House got elected by the Supreme court, every president from Ford thru Clinton have given the neocons the boots and no thanks.<br />
They are the ones that turned our policies, our reputation, our ideals into mush.  They want permanent war in the middle east.  after the fall of the Soviet Union, they identified the middle east as the ones to overtake.  Make it a democracy so they are like Israel and will play nice.<br />
This is what the neocons agenda is.  To makeover the middle east so it&#8217;s friends with Israel.  Cheney it is due to paranoia, meglomania, oil, and the imperial presidency.  War is fast tracked.  Rummy, it was his chance to remake his legacy of failure when sec of def. before.  To make the military an elite, fast, ligthweight strike force thing.<br />
For Bush, it makes for great photo ops.  He can play dress up in Military stuff and strut around looking manly and have his picture taken.<br />
A perfect storm of different agendas that came together as one under the bush Administration and taking down the middle east fit all their agendas.<br />
There was no one reason.  there were several by several parties.  that is why no one can put their finger on the Why.</p>
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