If a women has sex before marriage she is a slut?

HPV can be prevented by not having sex?

You people can’t be serious. Sex is a completely natural part of life whether you are married or not and whether you have multiple or just one partner. How can you possibly marry someone without knowing first if you are sexually compatible? Sex isn’t just for procreating, it’s a way of showing love and affection and it’s also FUN!

As for HPV being preventable… Who goes through life not having sex? Who would want to? Who would want their child to be deprived of such as wonderful thing?

1) The disease this vaccine prevents is already preventable if someone does not have sex. If your girls dont have sex they wont catch HPV. So the disease is preventable without the vaccine.

2) The real problem is the vaccine cost $360 and someone has to cover that cost.

So are you willing to have you health insurance costs increase, to cover a vaccine which prevents a disease that is already preventable? If insurance companies are forced to cover the vaccine costs? Afterall heath insurance companies are going to increase their rates to cover this cost, people will end up paying for it not the health insurance companies.

Personally I welcome the advent of a vaccine that prevents a disease that has no cure, is easily transmitted, and can cause several medical problems and complications, only one of which is cancer.

I see this as far less of an issue than providing birth control, which is far more specifically targeted towards sexual activity (though personally I believe all girls everywhere in the world should have easy access to that - premarital sex is far preferrable to teen pregnancy, ruined lives, and unwanted babies. Not to mention I’d rather have them take a pill than have to get an abortion.) With this vaccine, you don’t really even need to tell your daughter what it’s for…just lie and say it’s for measles or something, then she won’t have any reason to think it has a sexual link at all.

They are not high-risk children for a variety of reasons.

If they ever get married then it turns out they are.

HPV is a problem for females because very few men will ever have symptoms of HPV. This means that it is undetectable by these male “carriers,” unless they get tested. I believe the test for HPV for men is pretty involved, so most men are not going to want to take it. This means that women (regardless of when, where, why, who they are sleeping with) are at a great risk of getting HPV and having negative symptoms, including an increased risk of cervical cancer. You could be a virgin and marry a man with it, or you could get it from your cheating husband (or boyfriend).

This vaccination is a great development for a disease that is next to impossible to detect in men, who will sleep with and infect thousands of women. I’m glad to see attention on women’s health issues.

Sure I’d sign my kid up for it… why NOT be prepared, even the best parenting cannot prevent the kids from going against the rules set for them. You can forbid till the cows come home, if they WANT to do something then they’re going to find a way.

I do agree that American society is ASKING for it with our slut addiction. Just look at the people begging the governator to pardon Paris Hilton because she’s a “beacon of hope for our children”. Odd, I don’t recall a bone thin tramp ever being a beacon of hope for anyone.

but wouldn’t you like to know that your daughter will be safe when she becomes sexually active.

Hey, I probably would get my daughter the vaccine if it proves to be effective. Even if she stays a virgin before marraige, maybe her future husband has the virus (how do guys acquire this virus anyway?) But like you, I don’t believe it should be mandatory, and all the “religious right” did was to block the compulsory vaccinations in public schools. I completely understand if you don’t feel its necessary.

In terms of my own children, I’m far more concerned with what goes into their minds, which will ultimately direct their behavior and what they value. I don’t feel the need to shoot them up with the latest vaccine for sexually transmitted diseases in anticipation of sexual activity. They are not high-risk children for a variety of reasons. But you should be very proud, you have done what you feel is necessary to protect your kids. I just don’t have the same concern about my daughters at this point.

DosPeros Parenting Tip #1: The most dangerous thing in the house for children is the television.

You’re going to look like the crappy Dad of the year when she comes back from the Gynecologist and is told she has warts and will need a biopsy. What are you going to say to her? She will know by then that this could have been prevented.

BTW were you a virgin when you got married? Was it by choice?

Full disclosure, my daughter is on shot 2 of 3; know she won’t get HPV priceless.

1. In the FUTURE I trial, GARDASIL demonstrated no clinical efficacy among the general subject population for overall reduction in the rates of grade 2 and grade 3 cervical intraepithelial neoplasia and adenocarcinoma — the only recognized precursors to cervical cancer.

2. In the larger FUTURE II trial, GARDASIL demonstrated no clinical efficacy among the general subject population for overall reduction in the rates of grade 3 cervical intraepithelial neoplasia and adenocarcinoma — the strongest (and many would argue only valid) precursors to cervical cancer.

3. Extrapolating from GARDASIL’s very limited clinical “success” (in the FUTURE II study only) against grade 2 cervical dysplasias (40% of which regress spontaneously), 129 women would be have to be vaccinated (at a cost of about $60,000) to prevent a single grade 2 cervical dysplasia.

4. GARDASIL’s protection against cancer associated HPV strains 16 and 18 appears to cause a disproportionate increase in of pre-cancerous dysplasias associated with other HPV strains associated with cervical cancer “raising the possibility that other oncogenic HPV types eventually filled the biologic niche left behind after the elimination of HPV types 16 and 18.”

5. Even if you segregate out the women who hadn’t been previously exposed to either HPV 16 or 18, we are talking about just a 17% decrease in all high grade dysplasias (266 out of 6080 vs. 219 out of 6087) — many of which would spontaneously regress without treatment. So we would have vaccinate 129 women (at about $500 for the three shot regimen) to avoid a single, eminently treatable dysplasia. That’s about $60,000 per dysplasia prevented.

This is all directly from the article linked above.

I myself would add that we currently have only 3 years of follow up to go on in terms of both GARDASIL’s safety and efficacy among the 16 to 26 year female population, no data concerning its efficacy among 9 to 12 year old girls and only 18 months of follow up on less than 600 total preteen girls in terms of safety data about GARDASIL within its targeted population.

I’m so glad the comment section is back on.