Comments on: Turning Salt Water Into Fuel? http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Tina http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-716751 Tina Sat, 29 Oct 2011 06:48:21 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-716751 Nice to see you are writing about alternative energy sources. And in fact radio waves are used in cancer treatment as a way to cook cancer by inserting a needle into the tumor and emitting a radio frequency that creates heat and cooks the cancer. Radio frequency ablation. So that part of the article sounded based in fact. However the second part, making flame out of salt water cam across a little weak. We usually need a carbon source to convert energy sources into an actual flame. Salt water just doesn't have enough carbon in it do do the trick. Am I missing something here? Nice to see you are writing about alternative energy sources. And in fact radio waves are used in cancer treatment as a way to cook cancer by inserting a needle into the tumor and emitting a radio frequency that creates heat and cooks the cancer. Radio frequency ablation. So that part of the article sounded based in fact. However the second part, making flame out of salt water cam across a little weak. We usually need a carbon source to convert energy sources into an actual flame. Salt water just doesn’t have enough carbon in it do do the trick. Am I missing something here?

]]> By: Larry Black http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-713051 Larry Black Sat, 14 May 2011 10:56:55 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-713051 All this talk of over-unity? Why? Do you believe that gasoline is the result of over-unity? Well, if you do then you haven't done your homework. This is why. It takes MORE energy from a gallon of gasoline to make that same gallon of gasoline. And that does not take into consideration the energy required to drill for it or discover it; just for the distillment process of turning oil into gasoline. On a comparitive basis, H2O is more readily available, thereby making it more cost effective AND it's safer for the environment. To turn water into fuel makes more sense than using gasoline for cars, generators or any other combustion engine device. In its raw form, H2O helps cool the very engine it will later burn the H and O2. If you consider the energy it took to initially combine the two elements in the 'big bang' then you realize that any over-unity is a gift from the creation of our universe and not something we do ourselves. In that light, each and every molecule within the universe is over-unity in the form of stored energy(such as a battery) and when broken down you release the stored energy(atomic energy). Any other method is only getting a small percentage of that same atomic energy. The next logical step in the evolution of energy production would be to devise a way to release atomic energy on a limited scale. That would involve limiting the expanse on the chain reaction of atomic releasement or a shielding of outside to inside reaction chamber. The only thing that comes to mind is magnetic/electric shielding. Until we can find such shielding the talk of over-unity is a moot subject... All this talk of over-unity? Why? Do you believe that gasoline is the result of over-unity? Well, if you do then you haven’t done your homework. This is why. It takes MORE energy from a gallon of gasoline to make that same gallon of gasoline. And that does not take into consideration the energy required to drill for it or discover it; just for the distillment process of turning oil into gasoline. On a comparitive basis, H2O is more readily available, thereby making it more cost effective AND it’s safer for the environment. To turn water into fuel makes more sense than using gasoline for cars, generators or any other combustion engine device. In its raw form, H2O helps cool the very engine it will later burn the H and O2. If you consider the energy it took to initially combine the two elements in the ‘big bang’ then you realize that any over-unity is a gift from the creation of our universe and not something we do ourselves. In that light, each and every molecule within the universe is over-unity in the form of stored energy(such as a battery) and when broken down you release the stored energy(atomic energy). Any other method is only getting a small percentage of that same atomic energy. The next logical step in the evolution of energy production would be to devise a way to release atomic energy on a limited scale. That would involve limiting the expanse on the chain reaction of atomic releasement or a shielding of outside to inside reaction chamber. The only thing that comes to mind is magnetic/electric shielding. Until we can find such shielding the talk of over-unity is a moot subject…

]]> By: Dr. Chris Mohler http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-697035 Dr. Chris Mohler Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:55:26 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-697035 the things people come up with and discover these days! It is remarkable. seriously. I still personally like the idea of solar powered cars personally. I am waiting for that to get big! the things people come up with and discover these days! It is remarkable. seriously. I still personally like the idea of solar powered cars personally. I am waiting for that to get big!

]]> By: john http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-632307 john Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:16:00 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-632307 Well...interesting. It seems some people believe water can not be used as a fuel by any means. I thought there more energy in a gallon of water than could be produced from the entire North American grid IF somebody knew how to convert all of the energy contained into useful work...Maybe Einstein...can't remember ;) Also, it is my understanding that the salt residue is completely consumed...How can it be condemned if you have not tried it yourself? The specific technology he is using is not that difficult to replicate...Why haven't some of you engineers actually tried to replicate his work? He was able to build a prototype in a couple of nights. Remember the three phases of scientific discovery...Perhaps, this is revolutionary! Well…interesting. It seems some people believe water can not be used as a fuel by any means. I thought there more energy in a gallon of water than could be produced from the entire North American grid IF somebody knew how to convert all of the energy contained into useful work…Maybe Einstein…can’t remember ;)
Also, it is my understanding that the salt residue is completely consumed…How can it be condemned if you have not tried it yourself? The specific technology he is using is not that difficult to replicate…Why haven’t some of you engineers actually tried to replicate his work? He was able to build a prototype in a couple of nights.
Remember the three phases of scientific discovery…Perhaps, this is revolutionary!

]]> By: ionthruster http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-568032 ionthruster Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:35:08 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-568032 I deal with rf plasmas and vaporization on a daily basis. This "invention" for burning salt water does not add up. Yes, the rf heating can break down the water into gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, but that takes energy, just as much energy as you get back by burning them. That process can only be nuetral in energy at best and in practice, maybe 50% efficient when you consider the rf generation inefficiency. So, you waste 2 kW of power (generated by any method, rf-combustion, coal, oil, wind, solar, etc...) for every 1kW you generate by burning the hydrogen/oxygen back to water. There is one more problem: the salt residues will need to be dealt with. Sludge can not be tolerated in engines, turbines, you name it. His original work for curing cancer may work and is a useful R&D effort. Forget "burning salt water" as anyone worth his weight in salt water knows that can never be useful. I deal with rf plasmas and vaporization on a daily basis. This “invention” for burning salt water does not add up. Yes, the rf heating can break down the water into gaseous hydrogen and oxygen, but that takes energy, just as much energy as you get back by burning them. That process can only be nuetral in energy at best and in practice, maybe 50% efficient when you consider the rf generation inefficiency. So, you waste 2 kW of power (generated by any method, rf-combustion, coal, oil, wind, solar, etc…) for every 1kW you generate by burning the hydrogen/oxygen back to water. There is one more problem: the salt residues will need to be dealt with. Sludge can not be tolerated in engines, turbines, you name it.

His original work for curing cancer may work and is a useful R&D effort. Forget “burning salt water” as anyone worth his weight in salt water knows that can never be useful.

]]> By: ronaldcollins http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-411699 ronaldcollins Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:29:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-411699 hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us i really recommend it to everybody, it's a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look. hi there, I use water to fuel a car as a supplement to gasoline. In fact, very little water is needed,only one quart of water provides over 1800 gallons of HHO gas which can literally last for months and significantly
increase your car fuel efficiently, improve emissions quality, and save money. I found the way through this site http://www.runcarsonwater.us i really recommend it to everybody, it’s a nice ebook where you can find the instructions on how to do it! take a look.

]]> By: johnandrews52 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-411656 johnandrews52 Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:13:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-411656 Can we run our car with water and gas? Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam? Can we run our car with water and gas?
Can anybody tell me is the HHO Gas is real working or is another scam?

]]> By: Maury Conner http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-410502 Maury Conner Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:58:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-410502 If the process is only 50% efficient it could still make a great difference. The US electrical power system has tremendous swings on load to customers through out the day. Power on the open market can reach 4-5 times higher during peak times during the late afternoons hours. Say a Megawatt of electricity at 3:00 in the morning is selling for $30.00. Peak times often are selling power for $120.00. So start the water process with radio waves up with power once the system load has diminished. make the hydrogen and shut the process down early in the morning as power costs increase. Power plants will run more efficient by remaining at a higher load. Use a car design to use the hydrogen or use it in combustion turbines to make electricity during late afternoon peak hours and sell the power and double money while only being 50% efficient. I'm a power plant operator in the south. There is a huge pumping station near here that takes water out of the river and pumps it up a 1000 foot mountain which takes a tremendous amount of electricty. The pumps (3) used are like 500 Megawatt motor-generators. It takes more power to pump the water up the mountain then it gets in return but it uses the same idea as above by selling the power for 4-5 times during peak operations and it also stabilizes the power system at night by maintaining somewhat a more constant load on the power grid. So efficiency isn't as critical as many believe and if the process could be used in a large scale operation we can use coal, nuclear, hydro, wind and water to power our cars and decrease our dependency on oil If the process is only 50% efficient it could still make a great difference. The US electrical power system has tremendous swings on load to customers through out the day. Power on the open market can reach 4-5 times higher during peak times during the late afternoons hours. Say a Megawatt of electricity at 3:00 in the morning is selling for $30.00. Peak times often are selling power for $120.00. So start the water process with radio waves up with power once the system load has diminished. make the hydrogen and shut the process down early in the morning as power costs increase. Power plants will run more efficient by remaining at a higher load. Use a car design to use the hydrogen or use it in combustion turbines to make electricity during late afternoon peak hours and sell the power and double money while only being 50% efficient.
I’m a power plant operator in the south. There is a huge pumping station near here that takes water out of the river and pumps it up a 1000 foot mountain which takes a tremendous amount of electricty. The pumps (3) used are like 500 Megawatt motor-generators. It takes more power to pump the water up the mountain then it gets in return but it uses the same idea as above by selling the power for 4-5 times during peak operations and it also stabilizes the power system at night by maintaining somewhat a more constant load on the power grid. So efficiency isn’t as critical as many believe and if the process could be used in a large scale operation we can use coal, nuclear, hydro, wind and water to power our cars and decrease our dependency on oil

]]> By: Seth Jacobs http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-410283 Seth Jacobs Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:14:12 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-410283 I think that these current gas prices are ridiculous and only benefiting a certain few who are profiteering over the misery of many. How could such a small group of a few hold so much power over many? This gas crisis is so out of hand, that I've resorted to drastic measures. Recently I converted my 04 Cadillac to utilize water as fuel from an easy to install kit, I obtained online from a company called Water4fuel,info I think that these current gas prices are ridiculous and only benefiting a certain few who are profiteering over the misery of many. How could such a small group of a few hold so much power over many?

This gas crisis is so out of hand, that I’ve resorted to drastic measures. Recently I converted my 04 Cadillac to utilize water as fuel from an easy to install kit, I obtained online from a company called Water4fuel,info

]]> By: Prabhat Saini http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-409070 Prabhat Saini Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:20:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-409070 Well "Colombus and the Wright Brothers" said it all That is so true, there are 3 different views 1. People who do see apple falling and never though of gravity as their nanny did not teach them. 2. People who try to make healthier argumentation to get focused on the invention and put their findings on the subject 3. But obvious big guys who try to suppress anything that can eat on their profits. Well it has to be big guys who should actually be coming with these ideas to get over with the fuel crisis and pollution. Look at gas prices. Is any one oil company loosing these days? No, just check for their quarterly profits and they will show better numbers then last year. We the people are the ultimate sufferers. I cannot do anything much as an individual, I heard about water as source of fuel for automobiles etc recently, so I started my research and have started gathering information and putting all of them on my website. http://www.aboutwatercar.com Let us see how much of a chain reaction I can help with as "Planet B.S. Chronicles" said above that they cannot quite all if we stand up to discoveries that can help humanity. Well “Colombus and the Wright Brothers” said it all

That is so true, there are 3 different views
1. People who do see apple falling and never though of gravity as their nanny did not teach them.

2. People who try to make healthier argumentation to get focused on the invention and put their findings on the subject

3. But obvious big guys who try to suppress anything that can eat on their profits.

Well it has to be big guys who should actually be coming with these ideas to get over with the fuel crisis and pollution. Look at gas prices. Is any one oil company loosing these days? No, just check for their quarterly profits and they will show better numbers then last year.

We the people are the ultimate sufferers. I cannot do anything much as an individual, I heard about water as source of fuel for automobiles etc recently, so I started my research and have started gathering information and putting all of them on my website.

http://www.aboutwatercar.com

Let us see how much of a chain reaction I can help with as “Planet B.S. Chronicles” said above that they cannot quite all if we stand up to discoveries that can help humanity.

]]> By: Colombus and the Wright Brothers http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-408167 Colombus and the Wright Brothers Sun, 25 May 2008 03:26:01 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-408167 It is most interesting to see so many variable views on another man's experiment. Most of these are comments upon a poorly defined set of facts. I will focus upon the comments more than the experiment which will be eventually unfolded by the real facts over time. No experiment created by any researcher should be pounced upon by ne gative thinkers who admit they do not know the real facts and when the inventor is still not sure what he has accomplished - give the guy a break and time to finish his work with your support more so than your criical views - wait and see. "It takes more energy to electrolyze water than the hydrogen and oxygen will produce when they are burned." Are you sure? Even in the presence of a catalyst? Even if the water was hot rather than cold? Even when the altitude is higher instead of lower? Even in a vacumm? Even when there is a magnetic field in play? Even when the combustion activity involves elements you do not know about? Even etc., etc., etc..... Why do we not not see comments like "It take more energy to produce a gallon of gasoline then that gallon of gasoline contains? Should we say gasoline is not a fuel because it can not burn unless it is combined in a specific ratio +-14.6 to 1? These kind of distortions of the facts are usually written by "BIG OIL" advocates who also deny that oil is running short. Both methanol and ethanol will always be cheaper than gasoline because we are now at the World stage of war over oil forever. The Demand is higher than the supply and the prices for gasoline will never bring enough profit to satisfy the greed of the oil industry. That is why we will field water fueled vehicles in 2010 - check our WEB site at www//waterfueledsystems.net/ It is most interesting to see so many variable views on another man’s experiment. Most of these are comments upon a poorly defined set of facts. I will focus upon the comments more than the experiment which will be eventually unfolded by the real facts over time.

No experiment created by any researcher should be pounced upon by ne
gative thinkers who admit they do not know the real facts and when the inventor is still not sure what he has accomplished – give the guy a break and time to finish his work with your support more so than your criical views – wait and see.

“It takes more energy to electrolyze water than the hydrogen and oxygen will produce when they are burned.” Are you sure? Even in the presence of a catalyst? Even if the water was hot rather than cold? Even when the altitude is higher instead of lower? Even in a vacumm? Even when there is a magnetic field in play? Even when the combustion activity involves elements you do not know about? Even etc., etc., etc…..

Why do we not not see comments like “It take more energy to produce a gallon of gasoline then that gallon of gasoline contains? Should we say gasoline is not a fuel because it can not burn unless it is combined in a specific ratio +-14.6 to 1?

These kind of distortions of the facts are usually written by “BIG OIL” advocates who also deny that oil is running short. Both methanol and ethanol will always be cheaper than gasoline because we are now at the World stage of war over oil forever. The Demand is higher than the supply
and the prices for gasoline will never bring enough profit to satisfy the greed of the oil industry. That is why we will field water fueled vehicles in 2010 – check our WEB site at www//waterfueledsystems.net/

]]> By: Dan Whitaker http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-392895 Dan Whitaker Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:06:24 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-392895 Looks like an inefficient electrolysis process to me. More efficient would be a beaker of water with a set of DC powered Anode and Cathode submersexd in it. Collect the bubbles coming from each and you've got Hydrogen and Oxygwen enough to make a hot fire that yields heat and water. But from whence cometh the C current to power that process? C onvince me, simply show me the measurement of the power input into thAaRF generator please. I haven't seen it yet! And no, I'm not "Big" oil," Big Government," "Big industry" or a member of the "Established Scientific Communiy" or ANYTHING like that with any vested interest in seeing this or "Perpetual Motion," "Cold Fusion" or any other hairbrained money begging scheme fail as they must. I'm just a very skeptical observer. Especially wnenever anyone claims to have blown away some or all of Newton's laws in one fell swoop. AND wants taxpayer funding to give him a good paying job to "Develop" it. SURE! I'll buy that. As soon as I get a peak t the power input to energy output of this latest appeal to the naive. Looks like an inefficient electrolysis process to me. More efficient would be a beaker of water with a set of DC powered Anode and Cathode submersexd in it. Collect the bubbles coming from each and you’ve got Hydrogen and Oxygwen enough to make a hot fire that yields heat and water. But from whence cometh the C current to power that process?

C onvince me, simply show me the measurement of the power input into thAaRF generator please. I haven’t seen it yet!

And no, I’m not “Big” oil,” Big Government,” “Big industry” or a member of the “Established Scientific Communiy” or ANYTHING like that with any vested interest in seeing this or “Perpetual Motion,” “Cold Fusion” or any other hairbrained money begging scheme fail as they must.

I’m just a very skeptical observer. Especially wnenever anyone claims to have blown away some or all of Newton’s laws in one fell swoop. AND wants taxpayer funding to give him a good paying job to “Develop” it.

SURE! I’ll buy that. As soon as I get a peak t the power input to energy output of this latest appeal to the naive.

]]> By: Big Oil http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-391024 Big Oil Thu, 14 Feb 2008 05:07:55 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-391024 Where in Florida did you say Mr. Kanzius is from? I'd like to congratulate him on his... discovery. Where in Florida did you say Mr. Kanzius is from? I’d like to congratulate him on his… discovery.

]]> By: american idiot http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-384793 american idiot Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:22:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-384793 from an american idiot i dont know i would venture to say that this man may be on to something very big if only a cure for cancer!!!or just turning saltwater in to drinking water im sure goergia and the other southern states and those little towns that are only able to turn there water for an hour a day would surely like an answer to there problems of having no drinking water right now there doesnt ever seem to be a drought in the oceans of this world we fight over oil and power if this could work ther would definitly be a major power structure change in the world id say it sure would be hard for the oil guys to harness all the control over salt water huh i dont beleive the people of this world would let this happen by hte way oil boys would stillhave by products to produce ie ashphalt thinners oh dont forget plastic i think theres alittle mor use then 19 gallons of fuel from a barrel of oil just to name a few and u kneejerk scientest that are giving a quick explanation seem to need to go back to the drawing board ther may be some extraordinaryresults from this accident from an american idiot i dont know i would venture to say that this man may be on to something very big if only a cure for cancer!!!or just turning saltwater in to drinking water im sure goergia and the other southern states and those little towns that are only able to turn there water for an hour a day would surely like an answer to there problems of having no drinking water right now there doesnt ever seem to be a drought in the oceans of this world we fight over oil and power if this could work ther would definitly be a major power structure change in the world id say it sure would be hard for the oil guys to harness all the control over salt water huh i dont beleive the people of this world would let this happen by hte way oil boys would stillhave by products to produce ie ashphalt thinners oh dont forget plastic i think theres alittle mor use then 19 gallons of fuel from a barrel of oil just to name a few and u kneejerk scientest that are giving a quick explanation seem to need to go back to the drawing board ther may be some extraordinaryresults from this accident

]]> By: joshlbetts http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-4/#comment-381448 joshlbetts Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:29:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-381448 Simple Test. Compare the volt and amp of the RF generator w/ the heat produced. Done. Simple Test.

Compare the volt and amp of the RF generator w/ the heat produced.

Done.

]]> By: obrian93 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-3/#comment-381105 obrian93 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:35:59 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-381105 <i>"What I wonder about is why everyone is interested and talking about the energy thing instead of the cancer cure?" -john </i> Screw cancer people. I want to make my car go. Cars are AWESOME. People with cancer are thin and depressing. “What I wonder about is why everyone is interested and talking about the energy thing instead of the cancer cure?” -john

Screw cancer people. I want to make my car go. Cars are AWESOME. People with cancer are thin and depressing.

]]> By: john http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-3/#comment-378137 john Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:43:30 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-378137 I'm no scientest but the objections I've read above were answered on a radio interview today. He can get substantially more energy out than is put in and is working on controls as the first few tries produced 3000 f temps which would melt your engine. He's finding ways to control via additives which he did not say what they were. He doesn't sound like a kook. What I wonder about is why everyone is interested and talking about the energy thing instead of the cancer cure? I’m no scientest but the objections I’ve read above were answered on a radio interview today. He can get substantially more energy out than is put in and is working on controls as the first few tries produced 3000 f temps which would melt your engine. He’s finding ways to control via additives which he did not say what they were.
He doesn’t sound like a kook.

What I wonder about is why everyone is interested and talking about the energy thing instead of the cancer cure?

]]> By: Kevin Shilton http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-3/#comment-377794 Kevin Shilton Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:35:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-377794 Can someone please find out the input vs. output to see if should even be talked about as a 'miracle' and a solution to our future energy needs? Can someone please find out the input vs. output to see if should even be talked about as a ‘miracle’ and a solution to our future energy needs?

]]> By: Tim Bingham http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-3/#comment-377556 Tim Bingham Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:59:08 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-377556 Why must we be so gullible? Please ask these two simple questions: 1) How much energy does the machine consume while heating the water? 2) How much energy is released when the water combusts? If the water truly is only common salt water and the answer to number 2 is greater than the answer to number 1, then he's got something. If not, then we can forget about it. I'll betcha quite a bit that 1 > 2. Why must we be so gullible? Please ask these two simple questions:

1) How much energy does the machine consume while heating the water?

2) How much energy is released when the water combusts?

If the water truly is only common salt water and the answer to number 2 is greater than the answer to number 1, then he’s got something. If not, then we can forget about it. I’ll betcha quite a bit that 1 > 2.

]]> By: Henry Dillard http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/comment-page-3/#comment-373867 Henry Dillard Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:04:49 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/05/28/turning-salt-water-into-fuel/#comment-373867 Watch the oil companies Lobby go into action. By the way, what happened to the nuclear car battery that was supposed to run an automobile for years. This was promised back in the 50s when nuclear was the up and coing thing. Has anyone heard from this since that time. Watch the oil companies Lobby go into action. By the way, what happened to the nuclear car battery that was supposed to run an automobile for years. This was promised back in the 50s when nuclear was the up and coing thing. Has anyone heard from this since that time.

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