His original work for curing cancer may work and is a useful R&D effort. Forget “burning salt water” as anyone worth his weight in salt water knows that can never be useful.

This gas crisis is so out of hand, that I’ve resorted to drastic measures. Recently I converted my 04 Cadillac to utilize water as fuel from an easy to install kit, I obtained online from a company called Water4fuel,info

That is so true, there are 3 different views
1. People who do see apple falling and never though of gravity as their nanny did not teach them.

2. People who try to make healthier argumentation to get focused on the invention and put their findings on the subject

3. But obvious big guys who try to suppress anything that can eat on their profits.

Well it has to be big guys who should actually be coming with these ideas to get over with the fuel crisis and pollution. Look at gas prices. Is any one oil company loosing these days? No, just check for their quarterly profits and they will show better numbers then last year.

We the people are the ultimate sufferers. I cannot do anything much as an individual, I heard about water as source of fuel for automobiles etc recently, so I started my research and have started gathering information and putting all of them on my website.

http://www.aboutwatercar.com

Let us see how much of a chain reaction I can help with as “Planet B.S. Chronicles” said above that they cannot quite all if we stand up to discoveries that can help humanity.

No experiment created by any researcher should be pounced upon by ne
gative thinkers who admit they do not know the real facts and when the inventor is still not sure what he has accomplished – give the guy a break and time to finish his work with your support more so than your criical views – wait and see.

“It takes more energy to electrolyze water than the hydrogen and oxygen will produce when they are burned.” Are you sure? Even in the presence of a catalyst? Even if the water was hot rather than cold? Even when the altitude is higher instead of lower? Even in a vacumm? Even when there is a magnetic field in play? Even when the combustion activity involves elements you do not know about? Even etc., etc., etc…..

Why do we not not see comments like “It take more energy to produce a gallon of gasoline then that gallon of gasoline contains? Should we say gasoline is not a fuel because it can not burn unless it is combined in a specific ratio +-14.6 to 1?

These kind of distortions of the facts are usually written by “BIG OIL” advocates who also deny that oil is running short. Both methanol and ethanol will always be cheaper than gasoline because we are now at the World stage of war over oil forever. The Demand is higher than the supply
and the prices for gasoline will never bring enough profit to satisfy the greed of the oil industry. That is why we will field water fueled vehicles in 2010 – check our WEB site at www//waterfueledsystems.net/

C onvince me, simply show me the measurement of the power input into thAaRF generator please. I haven’t seen it yet!

And no, I’m not “Big” oil,” Big Government,” “Big industry” or a member of the “Established Scientific Communiy” or ANYTHING like that with any vested interest in seeing this or “Perpetual Motion,” “Cold Fusion” or any other hairbrained money begging scheme fail as they must.

I’m just a very skeptical observer. Especially wnenever anyone claims to have blown away some or all of Newton’s laws in one fell swoop. AND wants taxpayer funding to give him a good paying job to “Develop” it.

SURE! I’ll buy that. As soon as I get a peak t the power input to energy output of this latest appeal to the naive.

Compare the volt and amp of the RF generator w/ the heat produced.

Done.

What I wonder about is why everyone is interested and talking about the energy thing instead of the cancer cure?

1) How much energy does the machine consume while heating the water?

2) How much energy is released when the water combusts?

If the water truly is only common salt water and the answer to number 2 is greater than the answer to number 1, then he’s got something. If not, then we can forget about it. I’ll betcha quite a bit that 1 > 2.

To try to make the understanding of these effects more lay-mans like, I will try to explain in principle what is happening here. Thinking in a reverse-chronological order, we need to understand that our understanding of Electro-magnetic-radiation is based on principles that Tesla discovered at a young age, while under the influence of Edison. Radio waves are simply Electro-magnetic-frequencies. Any physicist will concede that each element has a different “frequency”; basically the properties that make an element behave in different states. Water Molecules are moving at a much higher frequency than the same element in a different state (ice), Plasma (flame) is obviously the highest state. It is also important to note that water is comprised of two molecules that share very similar vibration properties. So, in the presence of H2O you have a composition of HOH, when you add Low levels of Electro Magnetic Energy, it is possible to not entirely “split” the molecule into diatomic H and diatomic O, but instead the water is vibrated and “polarized” so that it can be transformed to HHO (I’m not a Zero Point Freak, so don’t loose me here please). So, now you have in effect “capacitized” the water, now the HHO has no possibility to bond to other HOH molecules, so it comes out in the form of an unstable gas. When brought to a higher energy state by turning it to plasma (Add Spark), a catalyst reaction can occur. This is supposedly how the Pons Fleischman effect happened. Other people claiming to have not been able to replicate the reaction always miss one important detail; a nuclear reaction of any kind produces net energy that is taken advantage of, because of the chain reaction that occurs. They set up the electrolytic cell, add high voltage with low wattage (ooohhh and ahhh about the massive amount of “H2″ production (really HHO) and the nifty plasma effect in the center of the cell, but they never “DO” anything with the H / HHO they just turn off the power cell and see the output diminish. The key to the “catalyst” is the re-introduction of the fuel into the cell at the point of the plasma reaction, when this is done, you shut off the power source and “Cold Fusion” occurs. (The system works better with an electrolyte added, for the person who posted the concern about saltwater and the left over Cl, I use sodium bicarbonate, and it is much more stable.)

I only make these points, because I have (just as Dennis Justice said in this post) “accidentally� created this cell while trying to create a more efficient electrolytic cell for producing “H� for storage to put into test Hydrogen fuel Cells. I started to notice that H production increased the closer I put my cathodes and anodes, and I could respectively decrease my wattage and have the same amount of H output. Was I getting more energy than I was putting in? Absolutely not, I was only trying to make something more efficient. No different than how cars used to get 20 MPG and thought to have good efficiency, technology changed (better fuel injectors, etc) and now we get 30 or 35. Its just a more efficient system. I plan to develop this technology until I am certain that it will entice the Capitalistic Engine we have, and not need scientific review. Then I will license (not patent) the technology und the GPLv3, this way the technology will be free for anyone to use, but people can still get paid for their efforts to make the technology better and provide support for a product. I was able to re-build my cell with parts bought from Home Depot and Wal-Mart for a whopping $50. The only reason I decided to do this was so that I could help other people independently verify the results.

I’m personally tired of things being artificially slowed down due to a system that requires independent review by other Scientists. There are more than enough intelligent people out there, let the Idea be public, don’t worry about “reputations� (they don’t mean anything, look at Paris Hilton) and with all the great minds combined, there will be more of these “Accidents�. If it weren’t for experimentation by the curious we would be missing a lot of things today. Anybody ever hear of the Wright Brothers, and their nifty flying machine?