Comments on: James Madison on impeachment http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Daniel Merritt http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/comment-page-1/#comment-367856 Daniel Merritt Sat, 07 Jul 2007 00:26:33 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/#comment-367856 I've become increasingly convinced in recent months that we should have some sort of aggressive accountability for the Bush years - impeachment proceedings, investigations, or a war crimes trial. While any of these (especially the last) would be a propaganda field day for our opponents - who will conveniently ignore how they have done much worse - our greatest strength is the ability to self-correct, change, and take responsibility for failures and abuses while punishing those responsible. If we throw that away in favor of political 'reality', we're stripping away one of the most substantial moral and practical advantages of a democratic system. I’ve become increasingly convinced in recent months that we should have some sort of aggressive accountability for the Bush years – impeachment proceedings, investigations, or a war crimes trial. While any of these (especially the last) would be a propaganda field day for our opponents – who will conveniently ignore how they have done much worse – our greatest strength is the ability to self-correct, change, and take responsibility for failures and abuses while punishing those responsible. If we throw that away in favor of political ‘reality’, we’re stripping away one of the most substantial moral and practical advantages of a democratic system.

]]> By: The Gun Toting Liberalâ„¢ http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/comment-page-1/#comment-367578 The Gun Toting Liberalâ„¢ Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:00:57 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/#comment-367578 <strong>If There Is Anything “Funner” Than Hookers And Cocaine, It’s A Censure Of President Bush</strong> Not sure I’m on the guy’s bandwagon here — a President does have the right to spare his fellow crooks the noose after all — but I found this little “tidbit” to be rather interesting… Congressman Wexler to File ... If There Is Anything “Funner” Than Hookers And Cocaine, It’s A Censure Of President Bush

Not sure I’m on the guy’s bandwagon here — a President does have the right to spare his fellow crooks the noose after all — but I found this little “tidbit” to be rather interesting…
Congressman Wexler to File …

]]> By: Wexler Calls for Censure of George Bush - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/comment-page-1/#comment-367574 Wexler Calls for Censure of George Bush - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:36:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/#comment-367574 [...] Censure might be the most realistic action but is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the actions committed by George Bush. Donklephant examined  “how the framers dealt with the impeachment and pardon powers during the Constitutional Convention” and  noted this quote from James  Madison: George Mason argued that the President might use his pardoning power to “pardon crimes which were advised by himselfâ€Â? or, before indictment or conviction, “to stop inquiry and prevent detection.â€Â? James Madison responded: “[I]f the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty….â€Â? [...] [...] Censure might be the most realistic action but is not what the Founding Fathers had in mind for the actions committed by George Bush. Donklephant examined  “how the framers dealt with the impeachment and pardon powers during the Constitutional Convention” and  noted this quote from James  Madison: George Mason argued that the President might use his pardoning power to “pardon crimes which were advised by himselfâ€Â? or, before indictment or conviction, “to stop inquiry and prevent detection.â€Â? James Madison responded: “[I]f the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; they can remove him if found guilty….â€Â? [...]

]]> By: Daniel Nicolas http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/comment-page-1/#comment-367546 Daniel Nicolas Fri, 06 Jul 2007 04:40:32 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/07/05/james-madison-on-impeachment/#comment-367546 I wish we had a congress with enough guts to do it. I wish we had a congress with enough guts to do it.

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