Comments on: The Case For Mark Warner http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:07:11 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Mark Warner For VP? http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/comment-page-1/#comment-408289 Donklephant » Blog Archive » Mark Warner For VP? Tue, 27 May 2008 15:59:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/#comment-408289 [...] you’re a long time reader of this blog, you’ll know I’m a big Mark Warner fan. He was doing the unity thing as governor of Virginia before it became a national meme, but he [...] [...] you’re a long time reader of this blog, you’ll know I’m a big Mark Warner fan. He was doing the unity thing as governor of Virginia before it became a national meme, but he [...]

]]> By: Bo http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/comment-page-1/#comment-380930 Bo Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:01:05 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/#comment-380930 African Americans won't stay home. There is a two party system. It is either Democrats or Republicans and after watching the Republicans mismanage Katrina, I would think African Americans would be streaming to the polls to vote Democrat regardless of the nominee. African Americans are used as tokens in the Bush Administration while the many are forgotten even after a major hurricane. African Americans will vote as long as the Republicans don't try any dirty tricks and let them get to the polls. African Americans won’t stay home. There is a two party system. It is either Democrats or Republicans and after watching the Republicans mismanage Katrina, I would think African Americans would be streaming to the polls to vote Democrat regardless of the nominee. African Americans are used as tokens in the Bush Administration while the many are forgotten even after a major hurricane. African Americans will vote as long as the Republicans don’t try any dirty tricks and let them get to the polls.

]]> By: mw http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/comment-page-1/#comment-380923 mw Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:29:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/#comment-380923 Novak misses the point about Barack's support. The constituency he brings to the Democratic ticket is not racial or geographic. It is generational, which cuts across both racial and geographic lines. From my February post - <b><a hef="http://westanddivided.blogspot.com/2007/02/obama-declares-candidacy-for-vice.html" rel="nofollow"> Obama declares candidacy for Vice-President & launches pre-emptive strike on Boomers:</a></b> <blockquote>"...he is builiding his campaign on on a foundation of Baby Boomicide. One has to ask - why the generational focus? I submit, that this is a realistic political calculation by a young, self-assured, very smart, very ambitious politician, who understands that his path to the presidency requires a stepping stone as Vice-President. A key element in the selection of any Vice-Presidential candidate, is to identify what constituency they bring to a ticket. From a purely political perspective, it is interesting to ask - Exactly what constituency does Barack Obama bring to a Democratic ticket? It is not his home state. Illinois is already True Blue. It is not the black vote, Hillary Clinton outpolls Barack Obama among blacks. But if Barack can bring a generational constiutency, if he can mobilize a demographic block that historically cannot even be bothered to vote, then Barack would be a formidable addition to any Democratic ticket. This is a campaign to capture that constituency and trade it for a spot on the ticket."</blockquote> Novak misses the point about Barack’s support. The constituency he brings to the Democratic ticket is not racial or geographic. It is generational, which cuts across both racial and geographic lines. From my February post – Obama declares candidacy for Vice-President & launches pre-emptive strike on Boomers:

“…he is builiding his campaign on on a foundation of Baby Boomicide. One has to ask – why the generational focus? I submit, that this is a realistic political calculation by a young, self-assured, very smart, very ambitious politician, who understands that his path to the presidency requires a stepping stone as Vice-President. A key element in the selection of any Vice-Presidential candidate, is to identify what constituency they bring to a ticket. From a purely political perspective, it is interesting to ask – Exactly what constituency does Barack Obama bring to a Democratic ticket? It is not his home state. Illinois is already True Blue. It is not the black vote, Hillary Clinton outpolls Barack Obama among blacks. But if Barack can bring a generational constiutency, if he can mobilize a demographic block that historically cannot even be bothered to vote, then Barack would be a formidable addition to any Democratic ticket. This is a campaign to capture that constituency and trade it for a spot on the ticket.”

]]> By: PBronstein http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/comment-page-1/#comment-380920 PBronstein Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:14:49 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/08/20/the-case-for-mark-warner/#comment-380920 Whoever the Dems pick won't affect the African American vote. They are sadly rather uniform in their voting, I say sadly because it only hurts them as an ethnic group. I would wish that many would embrace smaller government, and more of a politics based on personal responsiblity, I really think all racial groups, white, black, latino, etc. would adopt this ideology, because if you look at all our communities across the board, change is needed, and this change is not going to come from our government. Our government cannot stop you from having babies you can't afford, our government cannot stop people from being bad parents, our government cannot make neglectful fathers responsible fathers, other than financially, but money does not instill virtue and knowledge in kids. Frankly that is where much of our problems come from and now a quarter of our income goes to government, instead of opening the flood gates for charity and letting each community take care of its own. Frankly if Hillary says it takes a village, why is she going the Federal route? Please don't confuse my call for limited FEDERAL government by thinking I mean 90% of the Republicans running for President, because they do not espouse the beliefs that I laid down, and please in no way consider this a talking down to African Americans because I understand the historical reasons for their political party support and it is a unique case. Whoever the Dems pick won’t affect the African American vote. They are sadly rather uniform in their voting, I say sadly because it only hurts them as an ethnic group. I would wish that many would embrace smaller government, and more of a politics based on personal responsiblity, I really think all racial groups, white, black, latino, etc. would adopt this ideology, because if you look at all our communities across the board, change is needed, and this change is not going to come from our government. Our government cannot stop you from having babies you can’t afford, our government cannot stop people from being bad parents, our government cannot make neglectful fathers responsible fathers, other than financially, but money does not instill virtue and knowledge in kids. Frankly that is where much of our problems come from and now a quarter of our income goes to government, instead of opening the flood gates for charity and letting each community take care of its own. Frankly if Hillary says it takes a village, why is she going the Federal route? Please don’t confuse my call for limited FEDERAL government by thinking I mean 90% of the Republicans running for President, because they do not espouse the beliefs that I laid down, and please in no way consider this a talking down to African Americans because I understand the historical reasons for their political party support and it is a unique case.

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