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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul Falls $1.37 Million Short Of October Fundraising Goal</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Where&#8217;s the Press? &#171; The Political Inquirer</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-386287</link>
		<dc:creator>Where&#8217;s the Press? &#171; The Political Inquirer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] before 8pm EST, the total quarter fundraising dollar amount has passed $16 million. Having been mocked when the campaign announced a quarterly goal of $12 mil, this in itself should be newsworthy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] before 8pm EST, the total quarter fundraising dollar amount has passed $16 million. Having been mocked when the campaign announced a quarterly goal of $12 mil, this in itself should be newsworthy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Burkart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Burkart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL nice prediction, Want to make a bet now on teaparty07?

Americans are mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.   We are not going to be controlled by the media.  We are not going to be controlled by our goverment.  And we CERTAINLY arn&#039;t going to be controlled by the likes of you.

Join the revolution! Join Ron Paul!

www.teaparty07.com
www.ronpaul2008.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL nice prediction, Want to make a bet now on teaparty07?</p>
<p>Americans are mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore.   We are not going to be controlled by the media.  We are not going to be controlled by our goverment.  And we CERTAINLY arn&#8217;t going to be controlled by the likes of you.</p>
<p>Join the revolution! Join Ron Paul!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.teaparty07.com" >http://www.teaparty07.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com" >http://www.ronpaul2008.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edith Claire</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-384850</link>
		<dc:creator>Edith Claire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How&#039;s that crow taste?

President Paul incoming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How&#8217;s that crow taste?</p>
<p>President Paul incoming.</p>
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		<title>By: John Anderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 03:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrm.  Funny.  It smells like someone just lost a ton of credibility in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm.  Funny.  It smells like someone just lost a ton of credibility in here.</p>
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		<title>By: GothamGal</title>
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		<dc:creator>GothamGal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is another revolution going on - The Bloomberg Revolution:
http://www.dailymotion.com/bloombergwhitehouse/video/x3cz1u_gender-bender</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is another revolution going on &#8211; The Bloomberg Revolution:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/bloombergwhitehouse/video/x3cz1u_gender-bender" >http://www.dailymotion.com/bloombergwhitehouse/video/x3cz1u_gender-bender</a></p>
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		<title>By: MsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 06:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we saw, didn&#039;t we?

4.2 mil - 37,000 donors.

GO RON GO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we saw, didn&#8217;t we?</p>
<p>4.2 mil &#8211; 37,000 donors.</p>
<p>GO RON GO!</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-382732</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 03:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin â€“&gt; pwn3d  

Another web pundit trying out for Fox News...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin â€“&gt; pwn3d  </p>
<p>Another web pundit trying out for Fox News&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The November 5th effort just went over the 3 mil mark
http://ronpaulgraphs.com/nov_5_total.html

The thing I would like to know is where is the news coverage?
These lame attempts are the best out there in so called major media

I guess msnbc can say they &quot;covered&quot; it
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/05/448871.aspx

Washington Times
http://video1.washingtontimes.com/dinan/2007/11/ron_pauls_cash_flow.html

I would like to suggest that each of us, and other supporters take a few minutes to email so called major media to insist that this amazing event in support of Ron Paul be covered, and not marginalized. No matter who the candidate might be, such an event is newsworthy, period.

Tell two friends, and they&#039;ll tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on.....

Here&#039;s a handy dandy list to help make it happen.

FAIR&#039;s Media Contact List
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The November 5th effort just went over the 3 mil mark<br />
<a href="http://ronpaulgraphs.com/nov_5_total.html" >http://ronpaulgraphs.com/nov_5_total.html</a></p>
<p>The thing I would like to know is where is the news coverage?<br />
These lame attempts are the best out there in so called major media</p>
<p>I guess msnbc can say they &#8220;covered&#8221; it<br />
<a href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/05/448871.aspx" >http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/05/448871.aspx</a></p>
<p>Washington Times<br />
<a href="http://video1.washingtontimes.com/dinan/2007/11/ron_pauls_cash_flow.html" >http://video1.washingtontimes.com/dinan/2007/11/ron_pauls_cash_flow.html</a></p>
<p>I would like to suggest that each of us, and other supporters take a few minutes to email so called major media to insist that this amazing event in support of Ron Paul be covered, and not marginalized. No matter who the candidate might be, such an event is newsworthy, period.</p>
<p>Tell two friends, and they&#8217;ll tell two friends, and so on, and so on, and so on&#8230;..</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a handy dandy list to help make it happen.</p>
<p>FAIR&#8217;s Media Contact List<br />
<a href="http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111" >http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=111</a></p>
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		<title>By: Wags</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome to the revolution.  Hold on, its only just begun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome to the revolution.  Hold on, its only just begun!</p>
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		<title>By: million</title>
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		<dc:creator>million</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 23:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin --&gt; pwn3d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin &#8211;&gt; pwn3d</p>
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		<title>By: Willie</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-382719</link>
		<dc:creator>Willie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far today, 20557 Americans have given $2.4 million reasons why the &#039;Money Bomb&#039; is real just as the support for Ron Paul is real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far today, 20557 Americans have given $2.4 million reasons why the &#8216;Money Bomb&#8217; is real just as the support for Ron Paul is real.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Justin, that money bomb&#039;s really &quot;in doubt&quot;, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Justin, that money bomb&#8217;s really &#8220;in doubt&#8221;, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: SimonDB</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-382704</link>
		<dc:creator>SimonDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahaha...the day is halfway through (for those on the East Coast) and RP has already raised more than two million $.

I think we can safely say OWNED, Justin Gardner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahaha&#8230;the day is halfway through (for those on the East Coast) and RP has already raised more than two million $.</p>
<p>I think we can safely say OWNED, Justin Gardner.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Doyle</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/01/ron-paul-falls-137-million-short-of-october-fundraising-goal/comment-page-5/#comment-382667</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Doyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 06:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$450,000 came in during the first hour of Nov. 5.  I&#039;m not going to predict what the total at the end of the day might be, but Ron Paul&#039;s supporters will overwhelmingly prove their willingness to give of their money and time today and in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$450,000 came in during the first hour of Nov. 5.  I&#8217;m not going to predict what the total at the end of the day might be, but Ron Paul&#8217;s supporters will overwhelmingly prove their willingness to give of their money and time today and in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will donate on the 5th to Ron Paul, for the fourth time, but I am strapped for cash, I can only give $50.00. I will give that $50.00 and I will continue to proudly display my yard signs in Columbia SC - because I am sick of the IRS stripping such a high percentage from my business - to fund a war that is absolutely pointless - it is not even giving us better oil prices. And it is absolutely crazy that neither my family nor I have health care, we have to pay out of pocket the maximum possible rate. So we end up not going unless it is an emergency. I work hard, am reasonably educated, and have impeccable business ethics - why must innocent people and children and soldiers die, their blood funded with my hard earned money? If Iran or anyone else were to invade America, we could destroy them in short order with a strong navy and air force. We could fund that defensive army with a fraction of the current military budget. Please fellow republicans, listen to a true fiscal conservative, and social moderate - Ron Paul for president in 2008!!!!!!! Go Paul Go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will donate on the 5th to Ron Paul, for the fourth time, but I am strapped for cash, I can only give $50.00. I will give that $50.00 and I will continue to proudly display my yard signs in Columbia SC &#8211; because I am sick of the IRS stripping such a high percentage from my business &#8211; to fund a war that is absolutely pointless &#8211; it is not even giving us better oil prices. And it is absolutely crazy that neither my family nor I have health care, we have to pay out of pocket the maximum possible rate. So we end up not going unless it is an emergency. I work hard, am reasonably educated, and have impeccable business ethics &#8211; why must innocent people and children and soldiers die, their blood funded with my hard earned money? If Iran or anyone else were to invade America, we could destroy them in short order with a strong navy and air force. We could fund that defensive army with a fraction of the current military budget. Please fellow republicans, listen to a true fiscal conservative, and social moderate &#8211; Ron Paul for president in 2008!!!!!!! Go Paul Go</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Marbry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Marbry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is indeed a social conservative.  In a &lt;a href=&quot;http://preview.tinyurl.com/32q7md&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;radio interview&lt;/a&gt;, he agreed with the host that in any case where the law contradicts God&#039;s law (the &quot;inerrant&quot; Bible, in his view), it is not law.  Putting the Bible ahead of the Constitution is worrisome in someone who would be sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution.

In the same interview, he says he believes abortion should be prosecuted as murder, though he equivocates about what the penalty should be for women who get abortions.  He believes that abortion-as-murder cases should be barred from appeal to the federal level to keep Roe v Wade from entering into the discussion.  He alternately says Roe v Wade should be overturned and, as in this interview, that Roe v Wade should simply be ignored.  Again, calling for Supreme Court rulings to be &quot;ignored&quot; is troublesome in a would-be President.

In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKA-U_QCkc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this video&lt;/a&gt;, Ron Paul, a practicing OB/Gyn, says he knows of no cases where abortion could save a woman&#039;s life.  Apparently in all his years of practice, he never came across any women with severe diabetes, dangerous heart conditions, blood clotting issues, kidney failure, liver failure.  Other OB/Gyns have.  This is why the decision should not belong to the government but to a woman and her doctor.

He also supports Don&#039;t Ask Don&#039;t Tell, and in another blatant nose-thumbing at the Supreme Court and the Constitution, he supports the Defense of Marriage Act.  The Supreme Court ruled in 1967 in Loving v Virginia, the landmark case that ended anti-miscegenation laws nationwide, that marriage is a basic right of Man, and the Constitution holds states to honoring each other&#039;s contracts.

Those Libertarians who are inclined to support Ron Paul, especially those who believe he promotes personal freedoms, should pay close attention to the interview I linked as well as the video.  The radio interview&#039;s rather long, about 45 minutes, but it is quite eye-opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul is indeed a social conservative.  In a <a href="http://preview.tinyurl.com/32q7md" >radio interview</a>, he agreed with the host that in any case where the law contradicts God&#8217;s law (the &#8220;inerrant&#8221; Bible, in his view), it is not law.  Putting the Bible ahead of the Constitution is worrisome in someone who would be sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution.</p>
<p>In the same interview, he says he believes abortion should be prosecuted as murder, though he equivocates about what the penalty should be for women who get abortions.  He believes that abortion-as-murder cases should be barred from appeal to the federal level to keep Roe v Wade from entering into the discussion.  He alternately says Roe v Wade should be overturned and, as in this interview, that Roe v Wade should simply be ignored.  Again, calling for Supreme Court rulings to be &#8220;ignored&#8221; is troublesome in a would-be President.</p>
<p>In <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeKA-U_QCkc" >this video</a>, Ron Paul, a practicing OB/Gyn, says he knows of no cases where abortion could save a woman&#8217;s life.  Apparently in all his years of practice, he never came across any women with severe diabetes, dangerous heart conditions, blood clotting issues, kidney failure, liver failure.  Other OB/Gyns have.  This is why the decision should not belong to the government but to a woman and her doctor.</p>
<p>He also supports Don&#8217;t Ask Don&#8217;t Tell, and in another blatant nose-thumbing at the Supreme Court and the Constitution, he supports the Defense of Marriage Act.  The Supreme Court ruled in 1967 in Loving v Virginia, the landmark case that ended anti-miscegenation laws nationwide, that marriage is a basic right of Man, and the Constitution holds states to honoring each other&#8217;s contracts.</p>
<p>Those Libertarians who are inclined to support Ron Paul, especially those who believe he promotes personal freedoms, should pay close attention to the interview I linked as well as the video.  The radio interview&#8217;s rather long, about 45 minutes, but it is quite eye-opening.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron:
I&#039;m so tired of this the guilt by association with Neo Nazis.  It doesn&#039;t make him more of a fringe candidate except in the sense that the media keeps using it to discredit him.  The Neo Nazi&#039;s, I&#039;m sure, always vote for someone.  I guess if it comes down to Hillary vs. Republican they&#039;ll vote Republican, so I guess the rest of us should vote Hillary eh?

Part of Paul&#039;s problem is that his goal would be to reduce government spending by a huge amount.  Obviously there&#039;s a vested interest, that makes it to the major media, that does not want that to happen.  

Howard Dean was all over the media.  Ron Paul is no where, except up being associated with neo nazis and spam bots because that&#039;s the best attack they can come up with.

I think there are a lot more people that would like a smaller government and a balanced budget than you seem to believe.  Unfortunately, as the media keeps telling them he&#039;s a fringe candidate with &#039;1-2%&#039; in the polls with heavy Neo-Nazi support (or just not mentioning him at all) he may not get traction.  If the media and big business liked him you can bet they&#039;d be all over his fund raising successes and straw poll performances.

The media has a huge hand in selecting our leaders, and Ron Paul&#039;s not their man.  Can the internet overcome that?  We&#039;ll see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron:<br />
I&#8217;m so tired of this the guilt by association with Neo Nazis.  It doesn&#8217;t make him more of a fringe candidate except in the sense that the media keeps using it to discredit him.  The Neo Nazi&#8217;s, I&#8217;m sure, always vote for someone.  I guess if it comes down to Hillary vs. Republican they&#8217;ll vote Republican, so I guess the rest of us should vote Hillary eh?</p>
<p>Part of Paul&#8217;s problem is that his goal would be to reduce government spending by a huge amount.  Obviously there&#8217;s a vested interest, that makes it to the major media, that does not want that to happen.  </p>
<p>Howard Dean was all over the media.  Ron Paul is no where, except up being associated with neo nazis and spam bots because that&#8217;s the best attack they can come up with.</p>
<p>I think there are a lot more people that would like a smaller government and a balanced budget than you seem to believe.  Unfortunately, as the media keeps telling them he&#8217;s a fringe candidate with &#8217;1-2%&#8217; in the polls with heavy Neo-Nazi support (or just not mentioning him at all) he may not get traction.  If the media and big business liked him you can bet they&#8217;d be all over his fund raising successes and straw poll performances.</p>
<p>The media has a huge hand in selecting our leaders, and Ron Paul&#8217;s not their man.  Can the internet overcome that?  We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Chusid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Chusid</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;And that begs another question: how deep is Ron Paulâ€™s support? Having been part of the Dean campaign I can tell you that ultimately his support turned out to be very intense, but not very deep.&quot;

Unfortunately the Paul swarm will probably make any meaningful discussion impossible in the comments but your question comparing Paul and Dean is worth commenting on. While the similarities in the two movements are obvious there are also important differences. 

There are far fewer Paul supporters than Dean supporters. Neither Dean or Paul could get the nomination, but Dean could get measurable support in the early primaries while Paul&#039;s vote totals will probably be minuscule. 

One factor in Paul&#039;s factor is that his poll numbers are probably much closer to his real support while polls exaggerated Dean&#039;s support. Paul supporters do not have any similar candidates to switch to. Most of those who say they are voting for Paul will probably stick with him. (There are also some wild cards with Paul. One question is how many will abandon Paul as they realize that he is far more a social conservative, with a few notable exceptions such as on drugs, than a true libertarian. On the other hand, he&#039;s developed quite a following among white supremacists and neo-Nazis which could bring in some more voters, but this ultimately makes him even more of a fringe candidate.)

Dean&#039;s support was much softer than the polls indicated. In the months leading up to Iowa most voters didn&#039;t pay all that much attention to the race and Dean became synonymous with being anti-Bush and anti-war. Lots of people told pollsters early they were for Dean, but once they really looked closely at the candidates many were willing to change their votes to other Democrats who had similar positions. 

Another difference is that, if things had turned out differently in Iowa and New Hampshire, Dean  could have won the support of the bulk of the Democratic voters. Paul&#039;s views are too far out  of line with Republican views and there is a pretty low ceiling of potential support for him. In Iowa with their strange rules I could see him managing to break ten percent if everything goes well, but he can&#039;t do much better than that and in most states it is doubtful he could make 5%. As much as Dean&#039;s support never lived up to the internet hype, to a much greater extent all the internet hype from Paul&#039;s supporters has little meaning in terms of chances of winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And that begs another question: how deep is Ron Paulâ€™s support? Having been part of the Dean campaign I can tell you that ultimately his support turned out to be very intense, but not very deep.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately the Paul swarm will probably make any meaningful discussion impossible in the comments but your question comparing Paul and Dean is worth commenting on. While the similarities in the two movements are obvious there are also important differences. </p>
<p>There are far fewer Paul supporters than Dean supporters. Neither Dean or Paul could get the nomination, but Dean could get measurable support in the early primaries while Paul&#8217;s vote totals will probably be minuscule. </p>
<p>One factor in Paul&#8217;s factor is that his poll numbers are probably much closer to his real support while polls exaggerated Dean&#8217;s support. Paul supporters do not have any similar candidates to switch to. Most of those who say they are voting for Paul will probably stick with him. (There are also some wild cards with Paul. One question is how many will abandon Paul as they realize that he is far more a social conservative, with a few notable exceptions such as on drugs, than a true libertarian. On the other hand, he&#8217;s developed quite a following among white supremacists and neo-Nazis which could bring in some more voters, but this ultimately makes him even more of a fringe candidate.)</p>
<p>Dean&#8217;s support was much softer than the polls indicated. In the months leading up to Iowa most voters didn&#8217;t pay all that much attention to the race and Dean became synonymous with being anti-Bush and anti-war. Lots of people told pollsters early they were for Dean, but once they really looked closely at the candidates many were willing to change their votes to other Democrats who had similar positions. </p>
<p>Another difference is that, if things had turned out differently in Iowa and New Hampshire, Dean  could have won the support of the bulk of the Democratic voters. Paul&#8217;s views are too far out  of line with Republican views and there is a pretty low ceiling of potential support for him. In Iowa with their strange rules I could see him managing to break ten percent if everything goes well, but he can&#8217;t do much better than that and in most states it is doubtful he could make 5%. As much as Dean&#8217;s support never lived up to the internet hype, to a much greater extent all the internet hype from Paul&#8217;s supporters has little meaning in terms of chances of winning.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got $100 waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got $100 waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sammi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sammi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M. Allen, you seem to forget that there is such a thing in the U.S. as the &quot;private sector.&quot; If government stops giving out loans for education, that doesn&#039;t mean loans for education will no longer exist. Many businesses supply loans for education today. If the government stopped, the private loan sector would thrive, since much of it is now being crowded out now by government loans.

This whole notion that we need government to take care of us is what Paul is trying to dispell. That notion is so ingrained in some people, such as yourself, that they even forget a private sector exists. We can take care of ourselves and each other on a voluntary basis, much better than the government can take care of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M. Allen, you seem to forget that there is such a thing in the U.S. as the &#8220;private sector.&#8221; If government stops giving out loans for education, that doesn&#8217;t mean loans for education will no longer exist. Many businesses supply loans for education today. If the government stopped, the private loan sector would thrive, since much of it is now being crowded out now by government loans.</p>
<p>This whole notion that we need government to take care of us is what Paul is trying to dispell. That notion is so ingrained in some people, such as yourself, that they even forget a private sector exists. We can take care of ourselves and each other on a voluntary basis, much better than the government can take care of us.</p>
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