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	<title>Comments on: You Can&#8217;t Ignore Ron Paul</title>
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		<title>By: InTheSticks1881</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-383135</link>
		<dc:creator>InTheSticks1881</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to stay the course and win most of the early primaries, foremost, New Hampshire.  We can win, even with out Iowa. Last I heard Iowa&#039;s GOP said he has met the 5% minimum to be included in the debates. However, I have not heard that he has received an invitation as have all the other candidates. 

If someone knows, please advise when or if he  recieves and invitation, I don&#039;t trust the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to stay the course and win most of the early primaries, foremost, New Hampshire.  We can win, even with out Iowa. Last I heard Iowa&#8217;s GOP said he has met the 5% minimum to be included in the debates. However, I have not heard that he has received an invitation as have all the other candidates. </p>
<p>If someone knows, please advise when or if he  recieves and invitation, I don&#8217;t trust the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any iowan&#039;s out there,  go to http://www.iowagop.net/countycontacts.asp and email your corresponding county contact. If they don&#039;t have an email then call them or mail them.  Something simple like:

&quot;I am a registered Iowan voter, and if Ron Paul is not part of the upcoming debate I will never give another dime to the GOP, and will never vote republican again.  Thank you.&quot;

   Be sure to put your Name, and city.  Your whole address would be even better.    That would get their attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any iowan&#8217;s out there,  go to <a href="http://www.iowagop.net/countycontacts.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.iowagop.net/countycontacts.asp</a> and email your corresponding county contact. If they don&#8217;t have an email then call them or mail them.  Something simple like:</p>
<p>&#8220;I am a registered Iowan voter, and if Ron Paul is not part of the upcoming debate I will never give another dime to the GOP, and will never vote republican again.  Thank you.&#8221;</p>
<p>   Be sure to put your Name, and city.  Your whole address would be even better.    That would get their attention.</p>
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		<title>By: The American Mind</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382948</link>
		<dc:creator>The American Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Paul Supporters Still Political Novices...&lt;/strong&gt;

We know Rep. Ron Paul&#8217;s supporters can raise money as well as spam online polls. There are even glimmers that they&#8217;re figuring out how to put together a ground game. But it&#8217;s only a glimmer. When the Iowa GOP announced the standards f...</description>
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<p>We know Rep. Ron Paul&#8217;s supporters can raise money as well as spam online polls. There are even glimmers that they&#8217;re figuring out how to put together a ground game. But it&#8217;s only a glimmer. When the Iowa GOP announced the standards f&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Clancy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382943</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Clancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, in regard to &quot;...and then they will be open to voting for Dr. Paul, or his ideological successor, in 2012.&quot;

The problem is that there IS no ideological successor.  Ron Paul stands alone.  One can maybe make a case that he is the ideological successor to Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater, but in actuality he towers over both of them.  His ideological ancestry comes from the founding fathers.  

He has stood alone in Congress many times, but has also many times been aligned with many congressional peers, those differing from issue to issue.  In all of that he has always received the utmost respect from fellow Congressmen who recognize that he is a man of principle and probably envy him and his quiet statesman like courage (as opposed to the ridicule and laughter he has gotten in debates from the mayor and the governor ). 

There is only one candidate, at this time, who can save the country from where it is bound.  There appears not to be a successor to his powerful message.  This, unfortunately seems to be the last chance for hope for America. It is Ron Paul, now or never.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, in regard to &#8220;&#8230;and then they will be open to voting for Dr. Paul, or his ideological successor, in 2012.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem is that there IS no ideological successor.  Ron Paul stands alone.  One can maybe make a case that he is the ideological successor to Ronald Reagan or Barry Goldwater, but in actuality he towers over both of them.  His ideological ancestry comes from the founding fathers.  </p>
<p>He has stood alone in Congress many times, but has also many times been aligned with many congressional peers, those differing from issue to issue.  In all of that he has always received the utmost respect from fellow Congressmen who recognize that he is a man of principle and probably envy him and his quiet statesman like courage (as opposed to the ridicule and laughter he has gotten in debates from the mayor and the governor ). </p>
<p>There is only one candidate, at this time, who can save the country from where it is bound.  There appears not to be a successor to his powerful message.  This, unfortunately seems to be the last chance for hope for America. It is Ron Paul, now or never.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Brodie</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382928</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Brodie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the American people do not have the good sense to elect Ron Paul in 2008, then it doesn&#039;t much matter whether Hillary or JulieAnnie wins. The former would bankrupt the country with her Marxist domestic agenda, while the latter would bankrupt the country with his nation/empire building, world policing military adventurism. Given that choice I would probably vote for Hillary in order to protect my 16 and 23 year old sons from being conscripted to go and get maimed or killed in some stupid neocon war zone like Iraq. A waste of life which would only serve to make the country more hated and less safe for their older brothers and sisters.

In either case maybe it will take the complete economic collapse caused by one of these two sides of the same bankrupt political coin, to finally wake up the electorate to the futility of continuing to elect more of the same CFR/NWO corporate/banking elitist puppets, and then they will be open to voting for Dr. Paul, or his ideological successor, in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the American people do not have the good sense to elect Ron Paul in 2008, then it doesn&#8217;t much matter whether Hillary or JulieAnnie wins. The former would bankrupt the country with her Marxist domestic agenda, while the latter would bankrupt the country with his nation/empire building, world policing military adventurism. Given that choice I would probably vote for Hillary in order to protect my 16 and 23 year old sons from being conscripted to go and get maimed or killed in some stupid neocon war zone like Iraq. A waste of life which would only serve to make the country more hated and less safe for their older brothers and sisters.</p>
<p>In either case maybe it will take the complete economic collapse caused by one of these two sides of the same bankrupt political coin, to finally wake up the electorate to the futility of continuing to elect more of the same CFR/NWO corporate/banking elitist puppets, and then they will be open to voting for Dr. Paul, or his ideological successor, in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Jive Dadson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jive Dadson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So Paul supporters, do you REALLY want to take back a party like this or jumpstart one of your own? The choice is yours folks, but the GOP as it stands now is strongly pro-war, pro-spending and pro-partisan loyalty.&quot;

You are darned right I REALLY want to take back the GOP, and you have put your finger on the reason why.  If the GOP is not reformed, it will remain a terrible menace to America and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So Paul supporters, do you REALLY want to take back a party like this or jumpstart one of your own? The choice is yours folks, but the GOP as it stands now is strongly pro-war, pro-spending and pro-partisan loyalty.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are darned right I REALLY want to take back the GOP, and you have put your finger on the reason why.  If the GOP is not reformed, it will remain a terrible menace to America and the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Wishard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Wishard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, this is just like Atlas Shrugged!

Soon you&#039;ll all be living on a secret compound in the Rocky Mountains, with a big golden dollar sign flag flying over it.

I think people are already gathering in this compound.  Have you noticed how many people are unaccountably disappearing?  Like, whatever happened to that guy who used to smash watermelons with a sledgehammer?  And that commie chick who was Pat Buchanan&#039;s running mate?

And have you noticed that the condom machines in public restrooms have WHO IS RON PAUL scratched on them?  Right next to DON&#039;T BUY THIS GUM IT TASTES LIKE RUBBER.   Something really weird is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this is just like Atlas Shrugged!</p>
<p>Soon you&#8217;ll all be living on a secret compound in the Rocky Mountains, with a big golden dollar sign flag flying over it.</p>
<p>I think people are already gathering in this compound.  Have you noticed how many people are unaccountably disappearing?  Like, whatever happened to that guy who used to smash watermelons with a sledgehammer?  And that commie chick who was Pat Buchanan&#8217;s running mate?</p>
<p>And have you noticed that the condom machines in public restrooms have WHO IS RON PAUL scratched on them?  Right next to DON&#8217;T BUY THIS GUM IT TASTES LIKE RUBBER.   Something really weird is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Bo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382913</link>
		<dc:creator>Bo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican Party has moved far from its roots of small government, less spending and no nation building into the empire building, big spending entity it is now because the people listen to neocon-radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and they have brainwashed the masses into thinking that is conservative when in fact it is nothing like conservatism. These neoconservative radio hosts need to be flooded with phonecalls and e-mails calling them on their scam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican Party has moved far from its roots of small government, less spending and no nation building into the empire building, big spending entity it is now because the people listen to neocon-radio hosts like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and they have brainwashed the masses into thinking that is conservative when in fact it is nothing like conservatism. These neoconservative radio hosts need to be flooded with phonecalls and e-mails calling them on their scam!</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Fisk</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382912</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Fisk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at all of the people here trying to convince us that Ron Paul needs to get out of the GOP. Now THAT&#039;s funny. The fact is, there are scads more of us then the phony republicans who think they are in the majority. Saul Anuz (sp?) the fellow who attempted to get Ron Paul kicked out back in June, is now a supporter.

Look, the GOP will come around. And we are going to take the party over, anyway so they aren&#039;t going to have a choice. Not a lot of people have mentioned this, but we don&#039;t need to win all of the delegates via the elections. We just need to get RP supporters elected as delegates. It is the delegates who chose the nominee not the voters at the polls. They can try and keep Ron Paul out, but come the national convention it will be Paul supporters who show up there as delegates. Mark my words.

Ron Paul is going to win this primary election and then he&#039;ll win the general  election in a landslide, as a republican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at all of the people here trying to convince us that Ron Paul needs to get out of the GOP. Now THAT&#8217;s funny. The fact is, there are scads more of us then the phony republicans who think they are in the majority. Saul Anuz (sp?) the fellow who attempted to get Ron Paul kicked out back in June, is now a supporter.</p>
<p>Look, the GOP will come around. And we are going to take the party over, anyway so they aren&#8217;t going to have a choice. Not a lot of people have mentioned this, but we don&#8217;t need to win all of the delegates via the elections. We just need to get RP supporters elected as delegates. It is the delegates who chose the nominee not the voters at the polls. They can try and keep Ron Paul out, but come the national convention it will be Paul supporters who show up there as delegates. Mark my words.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is going to win this primary election and then he&#8217;ll win the general  election in a landslide, as a republican.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sickinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sickinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent college grad with a degree in politics, I am quickly losing my naivetÃ©.
There is clearly a groundswell of supporters for Paul.  There is CLEARLY some disparity between POTS polling and the real support of a candidate.  I cannot understand how the GOP has moved so far from its roots.
If Paul is left out of Iowa, I will be participating in the expected Paul rally held nearby which will more than likely have more attendees than the GOP debate.
-Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recent college grad with a degree in politics, I am quickly losing my naivetÃ©.<br />
There is clearly a groundswell of supporters for Paul.  There is CLEARLY some disparity between POTS polling and the real support of a candidate.  I cannot understand how the GOP has moved so far from its roots.<br />
If Paul is left out of Iowa, I will be participating in the expected Paul rally held nearby which will more than likely have more attendees than the GOP debate.<br />
-Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382910</link>
		<dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie,
The reason there is a problem is that the GOP will get to decide which poll they want to rely on when making their decision.  Ron Paul consistently gets 60% or higher in online polls, but as you correctly stated, in polls where his name is not included he does not do well.  Of course in those polls, &quot;other&quot; is raking in around 14%, but we do not discuss that in polite society.

If they get to randomly pick any poll they want as the official indicator, there are plenty of &quot;no Paul&quot; polls to choose from.  If you saw a recent news item on some station they showed that in the last year Ron Paul&#039;s name had been mentioned around 4000 times on some station, while McCain&#039;s name had been mentioned roughly 20,000 times.  Think that might have any affect on polls?  Hard to vote for a guy no one on the news has ever mentioned.  

You see my dear, this is a game.  It is a rigged game.  And we all know that Ron Paul is rigged to lose. If they get enough pressure, they may decide to &quot;pick&quot; a poll that shows him doing well enough and let him in the debate. If not, they will steal from all Americans the chance to get to know the only man capable of saving this country.  

These are not nice people Stephanie.  They are not playing fair.  This is the very definition of dirty pool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie,<br />
The reason there is a problem is that the GOP will get to decide which poll they want to rely on when making their decision.  Ron Paul consistently gets 60% or higher in online polls, but as you correctly stated, in polls where his name is not included he does not do well.  Of course in those polls, &#8220;other&#8221; is raking in around 14%, but we do not discuss that in polite society.</p>
<p>If they get to randomly pick any poll they want as the official indicator, there are plenty of &#8220;no Paul&#8221; polls to choose from.  If you saw a recent news item on some station they showed that in the last year Ron Paul&#8217;s name had been mentioned around 4000 times on some station, while McCain&#8217;s name had been mentioned roughly 20,000 times.  Think that might have any affect on polls?  Hard to vote for a guy no one on the news has ever mentioned.  </p>
<p>You see my dear, this is a game.  It is a rigged game.  And we all know that Ron Paul is rigged to lose. If they get enough pressure, they may decide to &#8220;pick&#8221; a poll that shows him doing well enough and let him in the debate. If not, they will steal from all Americans the chance to get to know the only man capable of saving this country.  </p>
<p>These are not nice people Stephanie.  They are not playing fair.  This is the very definition of dirty pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jefferson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jefferson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The GOP has clearly decided that they are going to not allow Paul to join in the debate.  You should call the Iowa GOP and hit ext. 109.  You will get a message saying they will only allow people who have 5% or more in the polls to join in their reindeer games. 

Only here is the kicker - they get to pick any poll they want as the standard.  They will look at them all and then decide which one has the most accurate, ahem, least number of votes for Ron Paul.

I recently called on of these official scientific polling places that is sited by many including realclearpolitics, pollster.com, the Raleigh chronicle, newsobserver.com, the New York Times and others.  It is called Public Policy Polling.   Their last poll linked here: http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016710.html doesn&#039;t allow you to choose Ron Paul as a choice.  You are only allowed to choose between who they call the top 4.  Rudy, Mitt, Fred, and John.  When asked why they chose this very scientific method of choosing candidates they stated they didn&#039;t have the equipment to include any more choices.  Moreover, Ron Paul didn&#039;t do very well in their last poll where he was not included either, so they don&#039;t think he has much of a chance.

If this is the kind of scientific garbage that the media calls polling, then it is obvious the game is rigged!  Why include a sentence like &quot;we can decide on any poll we want&quot; to base our decision on, if you do not intend no matter what to exclude Ron Paul.  

If you call the number for the Iowa GOP hit star a couple of times and a directory of names comes up.  The first time it gives you a choice to input a name after that it starts listing names for you.  

Perhaps the Iowa GOP is unaware of how out of date, useless, lazy, and unprepared the polling companies are.  Not one of them calls cell phones and all of them rely on &quot;probable&quot; GOP primary voters based on the last primary.

I can tell you right now - most of Ron Paul&#039;s support comes from a wide range of people are few are the kind that voted Bush back into office.  

Instead of wondering where all this support is coming from and how he can raise 4.3 million in one day with an average donation of $103 bucks, why can&#039;t anyone have the brains to ask WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE POLLS?  WHY ARE THEY GIVING US SUCH INSANELY INACCURATE DATA?  

Instead they all assume the number have to be right, Ron Paul only has 1% of the vote and that one percent is capable of donating $7.7 million dollars in the past five weeks.  With a limit of $2300 per person, I don&#039;t think if every voter in the country maxed out, he could get that much from only 1% of voters.  Someone do the math please?

So, clearly, this is a hoax by the Iowa GOP that is terrified of Ron Paul and would rather lose the main election than let Ron Paul win.

If you are a Republican, I would call the Iowa GOP traitors.   They are selling you down the river and making you look like monsters in the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The GOP has clearly decided that they are going to not allow Paul to join in the debate.  You should call the Iowa GOP and hit ext. 109.  You will get a message saying they will only allow people who have 5% or more in the polls to join in their reindeer games. </p>
<p>Only here is the kicker &#8211; they get to pick any poll they want as the standard.  They will look at them all and then decide which one has the most accurate, ahem, least number of votes for Ron Paul.</p>
<p>I recently called on of these official scientific polling places that is sited by many including realclearpolitics, pollster.com, the Raleigh chronicle, newsobserver.com, the New York Times and others.  It is called Public Policy Polling.   Their last poll linked here: <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016710.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/016710.html</a> doesn&#8217;t allow you to choose Ron Paul as a choice.  You are only allowed to choose between who they call the top 4.  Rudy, Mitt, Fred, and John.  When asked why they chose this very scientific method of choosing candidates they stated they didn&#8217;t have the equipment to include any more choices.  Moreover, Ron Paul didn&#8217;t do very well in their last poll where he was not included either, so they don&#8217;t think he has much of a chance.</p>
<p>If this is the kind of scientific garbage that the media calls polling, then it is obvious the game is rigged!  Why include a sentence like &#8220;we can decide on any poll we want&#8221; to base our decision on, if you do not intend no matter what to exclude Ron Paul.  </p>
<p>If you call the number for the Iowa GOP hit star a couple of times and a directory of names comes up.  The first time it gives you a choice to input a name after that it starts listing names for you.  </p>
<p>Perhaps the Iowa GOP is unaware of how out of date, useless, lazy, and unprepared the polling companies are.  Not one of them calls cell phones and all of them rely on &#8220;probable&#8221; GOP primary voters based on the last primary.</p>
<p>I can tell you right now &#8211; most of Ron Paul&#8217;s support comes from a wide range of people are few are the kind that voted Bush back into office.  </p>
<p>Instead of wondering where all this support is coming from and how he can raise 4.3 million in one day with an average donation of $103 bucks, why can&#8217;t anyone have the brains to ask WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE POLLS?  WHY ARE THEY GIVING US SUCH INSANELY INACCURATE DATA?  </p>
<p>Instead they all assume the number have to be right, Ron Paul only has 1% of the vote and that one percent is capable of donating $7.7 million dollars in the past five weeks.  With a limit of $2300 per person, I don&#8217;t think if every voter in the country maxed out, he could get that much from only 1% of voters.  Someone do the math please?</p>
<p>So, clearly, this is a hoax by the Iowa GOP that is terrified of Ron Paul and would rather lose the main election than let Ron Paul win.</p>
<p>If you are a Republican, I would call the Iowa GOP traitors.   They are selling you down the river and making you look like monsters in the process.</p>
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		<title>By: david from texas</title>
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		<dc:creator>david from texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 00:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Republican and have voted a straight party ticket in every national election since the early 1980&#039;s. 

If the Iowa GOP excludes Ron Paul from the debate, then it is time to OUST the leaders of the Iowa GOP. They would be STUPID to exclude Ron Paul. If they exclude Ron Paul, then there will be a STORM of protest, the likes of which they have never seen.

It is too early to be excluding U.S. CONGRESSMEN (and women) from presidential debates. Iowans need to see a real debate, not a commercial for the special interests like Fox News.

I want my party back. It is time to rebuild the GOP. It is time to restore the principles of the party. 

Republicans for Ron Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Republican and have voted a straight party ticket in every national election since the early 1980&#8217;s. </p>
<p>If the Iowa GOP excludes Ron Paul from the debate, then it is time to OUST the leaders of the Iowa GOP. They would be STUPID to exclude Ron Paul. If they exclude Ron Paul, then there will be a STORM of protest, the likes of which they have never seen.</p>
<p>It is too early to be excluding U.S. CONGRESSMEN (and women) from presidential debates. Iowans need to see a real debate, not a commercial for the special interests like Fox News.</p>
<p>I want my party back. It is time to rebuild the GOP. It is time to restore the principles of the party. </p>
<p>Republicans for Ron Paul!</p>
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		<title>By: Darren D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Justin,

Remember your post a couple of weeks ago where you reported that Ron Paul fell short of his October fundraising goals?

How is he doing now?  I would be shocked if we do not reach $12 million by the end of November.  The November 11th fundraiser hopefully will put him above $10 million with 19 days left in the month.  The December 15-16th fundraiser, which I personally think should be moved to December 4th and called the Fox Smart $ Bomb, will probably move the quarter totals close to $17-$18 million.  I anticipate we will finish the quarter between $22-$25 million.  

Looking at the downward spiral of donations of the other &quot;so-called&quot; front runners where will they finish.

Rudy Giuliani - $15 mil
Mitt Romney -  $20 mil ($10 mil from his own funds)
John McCain -  $10 mil
Fred Thompson - $10 mil
Mike Huckabee - $8 mil

I think Dr. Paul is fine in the party he is in.  You know, the one he has been elected 10 times in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Justin,</p>
<p>Remember your post a couple of weeks ago where you reported that Ron Paul fell short of his October fundraising goals?</p>
<p>How is he doing now?  I would be shocked if we do not reach $12 million by the end of November.  The November 11th fundraiser hopefully will put him above $10 million with 19 days left in the month.  The December 15-16th fundraiser, which I personally think should be moved to December 4th and called the Fox Smart $ Bomb, will probably move the quarter totals close to $17-$18 million.  I anticipate we will finish the quarter between $22-$25 million.  </p>
<p>Looking at the downward spiral of donations of the other &#8220;so-called&#8221; front runners where will they finish.</p>
<p>Rudy Giuliani &#8211; $15 mil<br />
Mitt Romney &#8211;  $20 mil ($10 mil from his own funds)<br />
John McCain &#8211;  $10 mil<br />
Fred Thompson &#8211; $10 mil<br />
Mike Huckabee &#8211; $8 mil</p>
<p>I think Dr. Paul is fine in the party he is in.  You know, the one he has been elected 10 times in.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannim</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-2/#comment-382903</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So when does the Ron Paul AC/DC &quot;Money Talks&quot; video come out on YouTube? LOL!

Seriously, and all comments by Dimmy Jimmy aside,  if Dr. Paul can take back the GOP then great, it&#039;s needed.  But the real question is what happens if he can&#039;t?  How does the so-called two-party system work when one on the parties is dead ala the Whigs of old, and how can it recover without another Civil War?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So when does the Ron Paul AC/DC &#8220;Money Talks&#8221; video come out on YouTube? LOL!</p>
<p>Seriously, and all comments by Dimmy Jimmy aside,  if Dr. Paul can take back the GOP then great, it&#8217;s needed.  But the real question is what happens if he can&#8217;t?  How does the so-called two-party system work when one on the parties is dead ala the Whigs of old, and how can it recover without another Civil War?</p>
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		<title>By: RickNHouston</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-382902</link>
		<dc:creator>RickNHouston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious .... how many posters in this group have ever heard of, or for that matter, taken the fews hours needed to read the &quot;Federalist Papers&quot; written in 1787-88 by James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, paper #10 specifically. These provide an excellent insight as to what our Founding Fathers contemplated and considered while undertaking the incredible task of setting out the plan for what we all know as the &quot;Constitution of the United States of America&quot;. God Bless America and God give us the strength of elect Ron Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious &#8230;. how many posters in this group have ever heard of, or for that matter, taken the fews hours needed to read the &#8220;Federalist Papers&#8221; written in 1787-88 by James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Jay, paper #10 specifically. These provide an excellent insight as to what our Founding Fathers contemplated and considered while undertaking the incredible task of setting out the plan for what we all know as the &#8220;Constitution of the United States of America&#8221;. God Bless America and God give us the strength of elect Ron Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: CaneCat5</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaneCat5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some times i just want to give a big wet kiss to who ever is running FOX news. I can think of nothing that will add more to the revolution that is now Ron Paul. We just need of to come up with ways to make sure they pay to the max. That is if they are dumb enough to keep him out. In the end i think they will come to their senses. They have got to see that this will only make Ron Paul stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some times i just want to give a big wet kiss to who ever is running FOX news. I can think of nothing that will add more to the revolution that is now Ron Paul. We just need of to come up with ways to make sure they pay to the max. That is if they are dumb enough to keep him out. In the end i think they will come to their senses. They have got to see that this will only make Ron Paul stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/11/09/you-cant-ignore-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-382900</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote Kevin above:
&lt;i&gt;
4) Metric bias (these show name recognition only - not support.)
5) Reporting bias (online polls get pulled when Ron is winning - would we even hear about a POTS in which he got better than 5%?) Itâ€™s too easy to throw away results you donâ€™t like.
&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with most of the other points but I want to make a comment on these two.  As far as name recognition goes, that&#039;s actually very important.  Ron Paul&#039;s biggest hurdle now is name recognition (though progress is being made quite well since both the Leno interview and Nov 5 moneybomb).

As far as #5 goes, while that point is true, it can also lead to a bias (people active online, for example, sort of how the traditional polls pick only people with land lines).  A much better example to use and what I think is a more accurate measure are straw polls, since in that case people need to actually come out and vote (much like they do in elections).  In that regard, Paul is doing very well (though the MSM seems to like discussing those straw polls where Ron Paul DOESN&#039;T win rather than all the ones he does).

See:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_2008_United_States_presidential_election&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_2008_United_States_presidential_election&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usastrawpolls.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.usastrawpolls.com/&lt;/a&gt;

As far as a new third party goes.  If our system allowed for such, it would be interesting.  But the problems with that (or a third party run in general) are numerous.  The system to get on state ballots and the electoral process in general in the US doesn&#039;t favor anything more than a two major party system.  Gaining enough support as a third party would take more time than we have to be at all effective.  For Ron Paul to do a lot of the things he wants to do, it&#039;s going to take at least some cooperation from congress- and that means the traditional conservative republicans in the party.  The whole NeoCon position is a relatively new one in the republican party.  Yes, there is a loud vocal minority (and a surprisingly loud evagelical pro-war right involved there) but these positions are part of why the republicans lost in the last elections.  Remember this, Ron Paul is bringing a lot of people BACK into the party who left (either literally or simply with their vote) as well as new voters.  He&#039;s not taking away from the people supporting the pro-war/big government spending position.  If Ron Paul doesn&#039;t get the nomination, then the GOP&#039;s only hope is that Hillary gets the Dem nomination and that they can garner enough &quot;anyone but Hillary&quot; votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote Kevin above:<br />
<i><br />
4) Metric bias (these show name recognition only &#8211; not support.)<br />
5) Reporting bias (online polls get pulled when Ron is winning &#8211; would we even hear about a POTS in which he got better than 5%?) Itâ€™s too easy to throw away results you donâ€™t like.<br />
</i></p>
<p>I agree with most of the other points but I want to make a comment on these two.  As far as name recognition goes, that&#8217;s actually very important.  Ron Paul&#8217;s biggest hurdle now is name recognition (though progress is being made quite well since both the Leno interview and Nov 5 moneybomb).</p>
<p>As far as #5 goes, while that point is true, it can also lead to a bias (people active online, for example, sort of how the traditional polls pick only people with land lines).  A much better example to use and what I think is a more accurate measure are straw polls, since in that case people need to actually come out and vote (much like they do in elections).  In that regard, Paul is doing very well (though the MSM seems to like discussing those straw polls where Ron Paul DOESN&#8217;T win rather than all the ones he does).</p>
<p>See:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_2008_United_States_presidential_election" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_polls_for_the_2008_United_States_presidential_election</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.usastrawpolls.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usastrawpolls.com/</a></p>
<p>As far as a new third party goes.  If our system allowed for such, it would be interesting.  But the problems with that (or a third party run in general) are numerous.  The system to get on state ballots and the electoral process in general in the US doesn&#8217;t favor anything more than a two major party system.  Gaining enough support as a third party would take more time than we have to be at all effective.  For Ron Paul to do a lot of the things he wants to do, it&#8217;s going to take at least some cooperation from congress- and that means the traditional conservative republicans in the party.  The whole NeoCon position is a relatively new one in the republican party.  Yes, there is a loud vocal minority (and a surprisingly loud evagelical pro-war right involved there) but these positions are part of why the republicans lost in the last elections.  Remember this, Ron Paul is bringing a lot of people BACK into the party who left (either literally or simply with their vote) as well as new voters.  He&#8217;s not taking away from the people supporting the pro-war/big government spending position.  If Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t get the nomination, then the GOP&#8217;s only hope is that Hillary gets the Dem nomination and that they can garner enough &#8220;anyone but Hillary&#8221; votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d recommend some of you folks look back into American history... especially the period, oh, say 1850-1860.

Coupled with the comments in this thread...

Oh, the irony!

--Ag</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d recommend some of you folks look back into American history&#8230; especially the period, oh, say 1850-1860.</p>
<p>Coupled with the comments in this thread&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, the irony!</p>
<p>&#8211;Ag</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Y.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Y.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œIâ€™m all about the First Amendment, but at the same time, how is this productive?â€ she asked. â€œThey need to start calling voters and start door-knocking instead of calling the Republican Party of Iowa.â€


^Hey lady, they&#039;re already doing that. Ever heard of Meetup Groups? Ron Paul has among the largest number of Meetup Groups and members of all the presidential candidates.

Just let her wait until December 15th and 16th during the nationwide sign bombardment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œIâ€™m all about the First Amendment, but at the same time, how is this productive?â€ she asked. â€œThey need to start calling voters and start door-knocking instead of calling the Republican Party of Iowa.â€</p>
<p>^Hey lady, they&#8217;re already doing that. Ever heard of Meetup Groups? Ron Paul has among the largest number of Meetup Groups and members of all the presidential candidates.</p>
<p>Just let her wait until December 15th and 16th during the nationwide sign bombardment.</p>
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