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The timetable will be set for withdrawal. The troops will come home before Christmas 08. Everyone will have a fantastic Thanksgiving.

Except in Iraq…

And it will not matter one jot who leads the Administration in US.

Except in Iraq…

And there is then the little matter of Iran…

Good points Joshua, why didn’t the government listen to the foreign intelligence on Iraq? This sort of scenario was visited, re-visted, visited again and then again. All of our assessments had spelled this out. It’s laughable how
people can just toss aside the utter criminal behavior of this administration and skip over the most important factor of our failure in that country. We took the lid off and now you are going to try convince me that we should stay for 10, 20, 30, 60? years in Iraq?

The infighting will remain no matter if we are present or we leave, period! We can and probably will stay in Iraq for another 8 to 10 years and as soon as we leave the power vacuum will implode, guaranteed! The only question left is how many Americans are going to have to give their lives and how many more trillions of U.S. dollars are going to be spent.

I don’t suppose you’ve noticed the shape the American economy is in Joshua? Who’s paying for this war anyway? Is it Bush and friends? or are they the direct beneficiaries? Meanwhile, America’s education, health care and entitlement programs hang on the precipice.

Actually that’s just when we’ll begin to measure success. Can a coalition government stay together, and stay honest, without a U.S. safety net, or U.S. eyes looking over their shoulders? If al Qaeda or pro-Iranian Shiite fighters decide to give it one more try in Iraq after we’ve gone, can the Iraqi army and police fight them and win without our direct assistance?

The thing is though, these other criteria for our success can’t really be measured until after we have left Iraq. While we’re still there we can’t ensure any of this, only work to make it more likely. But it seems to me we’re getting to a point of diminishing returns in that regard.

Said like a true mindless lock stepping Democrat that believes everything he hears. S.W. Anderson, the knightly
Democrats are more like a beached whale than a knight on horseback. Yes, they win the presidency but the stench of their complicity in bank rolling, supporting and abetting this radical White House in their crimes will rear its ugly head. When a party purposely puts its own country’s interest on the chopping block just to win power, it’s time for a third and forth party in this country. I consider myself to be a true liberal, not some back scratcher, armchair ass-kisser Democratic that sits by idly while a Republican administration dismantles the very essence of our country. Baw sheep! baw!

But that’s not the point. The point is that heading into an election year where things don’t look good for them, Republicans have something that looks like progress to point to, no matter how transitory it’s likely to be.

I see you haven’t taken the sage advice to learn how to read Jimmy. If you would have read Justin’s remarks “Apparently the violence is at its lowest since early 2006. That’s great news.” Justin’s remarks indicate that he agrees that violence is down in Iraq. He then remarks “Folks, success in Iraq is not violence going down.” So there you have it Jimmy, Justin agrees that the violence has receded yet he doesn’t believe that the temporary reduction in violence is the measure of full, meaningful success. And he would be right.

This “police action,” and sadly that is what this is, a “police action” not a declared war. Among other notable police actions–Americans might think of that most fantastically raucous and fun police action ever, the Vietnam war. If we were, god forbid to buy ourselves a f’king clue we might learn from our past mistakes that perhaps retracted “police actions” aren’t really wars, but in fact, America appointing itself as the police officer of the world.
Now why we’d think we have that authority is beyond me, I know wiping out an entire civilization of native Americans infers a certain amount of respect among fellow murders but really! Who would God elect to “police the world?” I believe God is on our side, in fact, if he weren’t Lockheed Skunk Works would have to lay off some people. Even God hasn’t that in him, no, not something so apocalyptic as unemployed weapons manufacturers. But he can divinely ordain the deaths of hundreds of thousands for, as Gods translator on earth with put it “We needs to bring Freedumb and Democracy to them poor Iraqis.”

Ah yes! Freedom. How bitter sweet that experience must be from inside a bodybag.

RON PAUL 2008!!!