Ron Paul is unrealistic enough to believe that returning to the Gold Standard, eliminating the IRS, eliminating all social programs and government regulatory agencies and the Federal Reserve is just what our nation and economy needs. In addition you never once address my point about his belief that the state has the right to govern the private lives of individuals in the name of morality. How about you quit griping about the Democrats and address the beliefs of the candidate you apparently blindly support?

I even worked for Ron Paul for 12 years.

I can tell you that Ron Paul is about the worst thing that has ever happened to the libertarian movement. He is marginalizing us. He’s making us all out to be whacky extremists. He’s even given us the reputation as “Lyndon Larouchie conspiratorialists.” We worked hard for decades to disassociate ourselves from Larouche. And now with one single Presidential campaign, Ron Paul has managed to bring back that God-awful association, with all his talk of the CFR, Tri-Lateral Commission, Bilderburgers, Jewish Bankers, et.al.

Plus, Ron Paul has linked our libertarian movement up with NeoNazis like David Duke, Don Black, David Macko, and the Nazi StormTrooper Front.

And worst of all, he’s made our movement out to be a bunch of Surrender-tarian pacifists who are defacto aligned with Islamo-Fascists.

We libertarians need to win our movement back for mainstream values and away from Ron Paul. We need to tell every single mainstream American that Ron Paul is a Populist Leftwinger, not a “libertarian.”

Let’s call a sheep a sheep.
http://action.aclu.org/site/PageNavigator/sheepadanimated

Tell me Jim, for a person that’s been a Democratic my entire life, why is it that I belong to a party that is doing NOTHING I believe in. Does calling yourself a Democrat make you a liberal? or does it just happen to be the title of a party that used to stand for progressive issues? I say the latter.

The Democratic party hasn’t done a thing! Not a thing since they gained majority in both houses. Oh yeah! they have done one thing, they’ve held a bunch of congressional “inquires” with not one G’damn conviction. I suppose if I were a criminal politician I wouldn’t be very afraid either if all I had to worry about was some toothless congressional hearings and a hand slap too!

I voted for the Democratic my entire life, here we the “Democratic party” are just begging for our own party to get off its ass and DO SOMETHING! Anything! for Christ sake. I’m sick of it! I feel like I belong to a party that “acts” like they give a shit about America’s working-class people but when it comes down to it, it’s evident that this party doesn’t really care about safe guarding the rights of the majority of Americans but they care about power and they’ve been trying to cut a deal with the Republicans by lockstepping with them knowing full well that if they play the safe route they are likely to gain the reigns of power. Never mind they have ignored their constitutional duty to stand up to this president and bring an absolute stop to this government until this president stops acting like a Goddamn tyrant.

When all is said and done history will tell it like it is and it will be clear to all that the Democratic party sat by idle while one the most radical presidents in our history engaged in some of the most unconstitutional acts in this country’s history. I may be a liberal but I’m no G’damn coward. None of these so-called “Democrats” can call themselves “defenders,” not when they sat by, signed the checks, passed bipartisan legislation that is unconstitutional and sell out America for the assurance of power.

Hell, we have Democrats supporting the idea that we should stay in Iraq for another decade or more. I don’t intend to remain a member of a party that supports these kinds of ideas. I’m a liberal not a “conservative” Demublican.

If you’re a liberal and support Ron Paul why do you support a candidate who believes that while the federal government shouldn’t enforce religious laws he does think that any individual state that wants to can? Your comments show that you are a one issue voter. I think a bit more than that. And yes, I do despise the current administration and recognize the things that Paul has in common with them. In addition I recognize the Insanity of the Paul, a strong belief that he has a clue when it comes to modern economics and the 21st century when in fact he does not.

As opposed to what? The evangelical “compassionate” conservatives which advocate war in the name of Jesus or could you be talking about Pat Robertson and the wackos that came out in droves because their man “Bush’s” number one “role model” is Jesus!

Where are these “logical, rational “well informed” electorate masses you are obviously referring to Jim S? Would that be the spineless, always equally corrupt Democratic leadership and the sheep that follow them?

We’ve got a president leading our country that is unabashedly advocating Millenarianism and the Rapture and you have the gonads to criticize someone who sincerely advocates peace. I’m a liberal, I am not a conservative but Goddamn it–the Democrats have done nothing! Absolutely fucking nothing! They’ve sat on their asses, road the Bush express train and they are biding their time to gain power.

They aren’t out their safeguarding our civil liberties are they? No, they are out signing blank check after blank check giving this president carte blanc to do whatever he damn well pleases. I was a Democratic all the way up until it became evident to me that these piece of shits aren’t going to bring a stop to this administration. They are concerned with one thing and one thing only, the attainment of power.

Please Jim, show us the way of maturity. Explain to us where these “prudent” voices are, point us to a real leader, a person that isn’t a corrupt, war monger that is is bed with big oil. Point us to a political party in this country that isn’t on the take. All I hear from Democrats or Conservative Republicans is war, war, war. Americans aren’t buying the bullshit lies anymore. I will vote for Ron Paul because he is doing the job that the Democratic party was mandated to do. To bring accountability back to our government and to end the attack of this president on the American way of life as we know it.

BRIAN: Are you the Judean People’s Front?
REG: F*ck off!
BRIAN: What?
REG: Judean People’s Front. We’re the People’s Front of Judea! Judean People’s Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS: Wankers.
…
REG: Listen. If you really wanted to join the P.F.J., you’d have to really hate the Romans.
BRIAN: I do!
REG: Oh, yeah? How much?
BRIAN: A lot!
REG: Right. You’re in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the f*cking Judean People’s Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah…
JUDITH: Splitters.
P.F.J.: Splitters…
FRANCIS: And the Judean Popular People’s Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters…
LORETTA: And the People’s Front of Judea.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters…
REG: What?
LORETTA: The People’s Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG: We’re the People’s Front of Judea!
LORETTA: Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG: People’s Front! C-huh.
FRANCIS: Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He’s over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!

Ron Paul has done more to bring libertarian issues into the national spotlight than any single person in my lifetime. The term “libertarian” is actually in vogue. Can you believe that? More and more people are claiming to be libertarians, even those who might have only a couple convictions that are in line with purist libertarian thought.

The only reason I shifted to the Republican Party is because I finally have the opportunity to support a libertarian who has a chance of winning. It won’t be “easy”, but even “possible” is refreshing. The Libertarian Party is still a party of principle, but it has trouble even getting candidates on the ballot in all 50 states (here in the free country whose ideals we’re exporting via invasion). That’s why Paul has no plans to run on a third party ticket.

Every day, more people come to realize that this is a guy who is principled, honest, consistent, and will support the constitutional liberties that founded the nation. He will not be “in-step” with all Libertarians. No one can be. Detractors will continue to sneer; this is national politics. But Paul’s character weathers each cheap shot admirably.

The visibility Paul is getting will reap benefits for libertarians and Libertarians for decades to come.

I mean, any Paul supporter will tell you that he can’t go abolish the IRS overnight, and they don’t expect him too. He can’t just do away with the federal reserve. That’s stupid. The fact that you think we think that makes you stupid. And finally, It’s the direction you wacko.

Your either for:
Continued war and troops in Iraq
Policing the world. More big government.
More big goverment spending and deficits.
Continued erosion of privacy and civl liberites.
Globalism. Taxation. Threating nations publicly that have no nuclear capabilities or programs.
A crumbling dollar controlled by bankers that allows the government to spend freely.

Or your for Ron Paul and a direction and message that we expect accountability. We expect to follow the rule of law, and if it needs changing, following the rule of law to change it. Wars to be declared by congress, not by the president. To bring the troops home and change foreign policy so we are policing our own streets and borders and defending our own nation. And to push congress to lower taxes or pick alternative to the current unapportioned direct tax, and get rid of big government agency bloating. It is only four years people, and it is the direction and message. If your voting for someone else, it seems to me you are either a crazy loon or your uneducated. It is the direction stupid.

Ron Paul has a proven record of integrity. you would have to be nuts not to support him, or at the very least educate yourself. Otherwise, we are getting more of the same. Are you crazy?

Let’s see, Dr Paul said all the saber rattling against Iran was nothing but propaganda. The NIE pretty much proved that assertion.

Dr Paul said that there are plans to build a NAFTA superhighway that MSM discounts as a conspiracy theory, yet there is overwhelming evidence that he is right on the money.

I donated $50 today and will probably donate more in a few weeks. If the only person to stand up against this war is Ron Paul then I’m in. If he does win the presidency (I have doubts, but people are allowed to have those) I will we watching his first term very closely. If he delivers I will vote for him a second time, if not! then I guess I’m going to have to start voting for the Green party.

No more unjust wars. No more spying on Americans wholesale. No more cronyism. No more selling out Americans’ jobs. Basically, no more Neo-cons. Let’s be done with these traitors.

Who knows what is in store after the elections, whether I will continue to advance the Libertarian Party or try to work from within the Republican Party. I was discouraged after the LP bylaws were all hijacked. We shall see.

While most thinking people realize that the world is becoming more connected, I doubt there are many that don’t recognize the dangers from too much integration, and don’t stand to benefit much from said integration. I think Ron Paul represents the majority opinion in this country on that issue, IF the question is framed in an honest way.

Good job Dr. Paul!

But he’s not a threat to libertarians (individuals) or to libertarian ideals at all. He’s probably their most influential advocate.

I think one of the biggest distinctions between his views and a typical Libertarian is his grounding in “the rule of law,” but he did swear an oath, so that’s admirable, and luckily, the Constitution was written by libertarians.

He gives so much thought to his positions that the more I listen to him, the less I disagree. I’d love to see him in office expressing our ideals.

Why not do a post on how if Ron Paul says it…you can bet he is correct.

He was right on voting against Iraq.
He is right on the economy and the value of the dollar.
He was right about the “blow back” principle…sorry Rudy.
Libertarians do not fear, he is right about immigration and the NAU.

Oh and now, Iran has not been persuing nuclear weapons since 2003. Who said that to Mr. O’Reilly six weeks ago?

If Dr. Paul does not win the Republican nomination it is a joke.

Far from being a threat to libertarianism, this issue is a touch-point that could help extend a libertarian-populist-traditionalist fusion movement. After all, at the heart of all three movements is a preference for the wisdom of the people (individuals) over central control by elites (bureaucrats, “activist judges,” etc). And national sovereignty vs globalism is definitely an issue that embodies this conflict.

But his candidacy could be detrimental to the Libertarian party, simply because he is running as a Republican. Instead of building up a third party that closely aligns with his positions and values, he is trying to change a mainstream party that no longer prioritizes his viewpoints. If he does manage to change the direction of the Republican party, that weakens the Libertarian Party’s position as an alternative to the GOP. His insistence on running as a Republican basically marginalizes the actual Libertarian Party.

In a real debate without buzzers and bells and the whole rigged game show theme we have been seeing this go round Ron Paul would mop the floor with any of those guys on the stage. He is by far their intellectual superior and is better read on the subjects he speaks on than anyone else on the world stage at the moment.

How many times have you even heard the word Libertarian spoken or written about on the national and international news before Ron Paul started his bid for the Presidency? Not very many in my observation. How many times have you heard Libertarian views and ideas expressed in national media before Ron Paul’s bid for the White House? Again not many in my observation.

Calling him an enemy of Libertarian’s is just a bunch of hog wash.

US Department of Transportation- http://www.dot.gov/affairs/1999/41299sp.htm

The White House-http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-2.html

Spp.gov-North America Partnership http://www.spp.gov/prosperity_working/index.asp?dName=prosperity_working

It links to the Alberta Govt. Website:
http://www.infratrans.gov.ab.ca/INFTRA_Content/docType56/Production/pol306.htm

Couple that with this quote:

Second only to the Saudi Arabia reserves, Alberta’s oil sands deposits were described by Time Magazine as “Canada’s greatest buried energy treasure,” and “could satisfy the world’s demand for petroleum for the next century”.

From:
http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/OurBusiness/oilsands.asp

And what you have is no conspiracy theory but something that makes sense. I work for a tire company that makes giant mining tires and we can’t make enough for the Canadian Oil Sands. Tires are the biggest hold up for getting the oil out of the ground. All major tire manufacturers are building new plants in order to provide tires up there.

Do you think it would be easier to partner with Canada or to blame them for housing terrorists, WMD’s and invade them?

I’m against the whole notion. Sounds mercantilistic to me.

US Department of Transportation- http://www.dot.gov/affairs/1999/41299sp.htm

The White House- http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-2.html

Spp.gov - North America Partnership http://www.spp.gov/prosperity_working/index.asp?dName=prosperity_working

Here is a more in-depth look at their intellectual, ethical, moral, philosophical and practical depravity:

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/deep_libertarianism_human_ecology/

Dogma has been the enemy of the Libertarian Movement.