Ron Paul CAN win as a Republican, In fact, that is the only way he can win. Anyone who wants him to run third party wants him to lose.

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If Ron Paul were to make a third-party run he would have no real chance of winning unless he had Ross Perot money. The idea that Ron Paul should make a non-Republican run is interesting but not really realistic.

Ron Paul has made his choice to run for the party to which he belongs and been a elected member of for 20 years. He has rejected the libertarian offer. SO FORGET IT. The only Choice the GOP has now is to nominate Ron Paul or LOSE the major election with any other candidate because most people that would vote RP (even from the other party) would not vote for any other candidate. Thats the GOP base’s choice now Choose RP and victory or Loose to Hillery.

I respect your thoughts… As you have mentioned you have offered a 3rd party political scenario often.

Though I write with a humble hand I must question your authentic understanding of our “Two Party System”? For sure if a candidate has an endless source of cash a third party run may offer an authentic protest vote. But until our policies benefit easier inclusion into the political system a 3rd party message and opportunity to win is limited.

Ross Perrot was unique in his time but the opportunity for a 3rd party to obtain the nomination and debate the winning nominated candidates from all parties will not happen.

Besides I think Dr. Paul has made if clear he will not be running as a 3rd party candidate when he has the opportunity to win the nomination.

If you haven’t noticed a recent Zobgy poll has Paul winning by nearly 18% when counting “L’, “C”, “R” and “D”.

Personally I think it’s time to effect change with Dr. Paul’s message right now and use the same grass roots support and begin to call every congress member of every district to support many of his bills. Once it passes then turn right around and send letters and call our senate members. I think we could be extremely productive in the political process “RIGHT NOW.”

I have been a GOP member for over 20 years and while at one time I trusted my party leadership I ended my trust nearly three years ago. Regardless of my lack of trust I can assure you of a few basic facts which the Ron Paul revolution is already having within the GOP. Sure, the GOP is very quit about it nationally but locally it’s easy to notice. What is it? Well, over the years prior to elections cycles our local GOP meetings usually gather 30-40 for a party meet. But since April I have noticed a tremendous increase within the GOP. Here are the facts…. Our 2nd qtr meeting had 62 voters who attended. I was able to ask a few questions of those who attended if they were new to the area or if a single candidate provided the increase in the GOP. At that time we had 17 new folks in attendance and they were Paul supporters, Mitt had only one new supporter in the room as did Rudy. In our area the die hard GOP is supporting McCain even though he broke ranks and supports amnesty.

During our 3rd qtr meeting we had 119 who attended and they were all new Paul supporters… No other candidate grew it’s support….. What is even stranger is that even though Mike Huckabee is rising in the polls he had only four supporters. The local GOP are still scratching there heads wondering what is going on. We call it the Ron Paul Revolution.

We have no democracy anymore. Russia, Iraq, Venezuela and Mexico, run fair-er elections than the USA does.

Think:
2000 – had bad irregularities
2004 – had a Diebold CEO, Walden Odell, promise bush the Ohio votes in Aug 2003, and he did. Kerry because he works for Bush, didnt challenge the irregularities in Ohio
Christine Gregoire stole an election in plain daylight in King County in Washington State.
etc.

In fact, last election here in California, I had to vote with a Spanish libertarian polling card because they didnt have libertarian-english poll cards!

- You have no visibility into the election.
- Vote fraud is real.
- Pollsters rig the polls to help prepare the poor abused public to accept a rigged election
- You no longer control this country. As STALIN said, “its not who votes, its who counts the votes.”
- Primaries are closed up and rigged to keep unwanted voters from spoiling a rigged election.

So Ron Paul has to run for GOP ticket to not be frauded out of the election. Its a fact:

ELECTIONS IN THE USA ARE FAKE AND YOU HAVE BEEN AND ARE BEING LIED TO.

Secondly, while I can appreciate your many points, it does not appear clear that you understand that running as a Republican in the primaries, even to the very end does not preclude a 3rd party ticket. So, what you say, even if 100% fact does not mean he has to quit a mainstream party right now or even any time soon. Besides, I happen to think he will win the primaries, as his support is already larger than the % that typically vote in primaries, so even if NONE of the usual suspect vote for him, he still has a majority.

I strongly disagree with your first point. Ron Paul doesn’t need the Republican base, if he draws new people into voting in the Republican primaries. Winning is all about voter turnout, not fitting some existing mold.

There is still no clear Republican front-runner. There are still 6 viable candidates, including Ron Paul. It will probably take only 30% of the vote to win the nomination. With many states being winner-take-all, a candidate with 30% of the vote might earn a majority of the delegates. 30% of Republicans want out of Iraq. Ron Paul is more conservative than McCain and Giuliani on every other issue. He is more fiscally conservative than Huckabee, by a long shot. Fred Thompson isn’t creating 1/10th the excitement that Ron Paul is.

Ron Paul does not need to depend on surprise victories in the early primaries. He has enough cash to contest the race through February 5th, and beyond if necessary. He has more volunteers than the other candidates put together, and is one of the few candidates capable of competing in all 50 states. Only Mitt and Rudy have enough cash to hang with him if it becomes a drawn out race.

Your observations about his viability as a third party candidate are spot on, but it’s much too early to give up the easier route — winning the Republican nomination.

2) It is much harder to run as a third party today than it was in 92.

3) Paul has said he wouldn’t run, in almost entirely “no” terms, on multiple occasions.

I think that Paul remaining in Congress, should he lose the republican nomination, would be the best thing for the country and the movement he’s awakened. Remember that the Boston Tea party took place a full 3 years before the actual American Revolution.

Only when the suffering increases to intolerable levels will actual change be feasible. Let there be rolling blackouts, a currency collapse, more torturing liberals, and then and only then, could new blood rise to the top of either party or a third.

In the meantime, trying to take back the Republican party from within strikes me as the best short term and long term strategy.

It’s much easier for him to win the Republican nomination. There is huge support for him, and if you don’t believe it, drive around your hometown and see how many signs are up for Paul versus ANY other politician.

I don’t think he should run 3rd party. He should run on the Republican ticket. That’s where I’m registered to vote, and that’s how I’m voting for him.

Ron Paul should hold a press conference and blunty state that he WILL NOT run 3rd party. I don’t want Paul running 3rd party, I want him to remain in the GOP and have a legitimate shot at becoming it’s nominee.

The Libertarian Party needs to take a hike. They are trying to exploit Ron Paul’s success and ruin it for everyone. Forget it – if Dr. Paul runs 3rd party, he and his supporters will instantaneously be marginalized and he’ll lose a ton of credibility after promising his wife that he would not run 3rd party.

Now’s the time for the Libertarian Party to work within the GOP and promote change and purge the party of RINO hacks such as Specter, Snow, etc. and big government socons such as Huckabee. Move the GOP back to its true roots, that’s what Paul is doing, and running 3rd party won’t help.