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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul&#8217;s Loss Could Be Mike Bloomberg&#8217;s Gain</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Draft Mike Bloomberg</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386445</link>
		<dc:creator>Draft Mike Bloomberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are disappointed in the direction you see our country going, consider the alternative and the opportunity that a man like Mr. Bloomberg presents. Residents of New York City give their mayor an unprecedented +70% approval rating. A self-made billionaire with a long record for executive managerial competence. He has proven himself to be non-partisan, choosing a pragmatic over dogmatic approach to decision making. Because he is self-financed, he is beholden to no special interests. The time for a third-party candidate is now, and Bloomberg is the right man at the right time. To read more, click above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are disappointed in the direction you see our country going, consider the alternative and the opportunity that a man like Mr. Bloomberg presents. Residents of New York City give their mayor an unprecedented +70% approval rating. A self-made billionaire with a long record for executive managerial competence. He has proven himself to be non-partisan, choosing a pragmatic over dogmatic approach to decision making. Because he is self-financed, he is beholden to no special interests. The time for a third-party candidate is now, and Bloomberg is the right man at the right time. To read more, click above.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Russom</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386394</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Russom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This title is propaganda. This is a mouthpiece of the military industrial complex, apparently, to even put those words in a sentence. Ron Paul is ONLY winning, and is ONLY in the lead.

All other proclamations are pure and total lies.

Bloomberg is a flip flopping GUN GRABBING BILLIONAIRE. He should be chased out of the USA for being GUILTY OF TREASON.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This title is propaganda. This is a mouthpiece of the military industrial complex, apparently, to even put those words in a sentence. Ron Paul is ONLY winning, and is ONLY in the lead.</p>
<p>All other proclamations are pure and total lies.</p>
<p>Bloomberg is a flip flopping GUN GRABBING BILLIONAIRE. He should be chased out of the USA for being GUILTY OF TREASON.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Dondero</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386146</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Dondero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia McKinney is running on the Green Party ticket.  She&#039;s like to have ballot status in 45 states.

She&#039;s recently been reaching out to the Paul voters with her Anti-War message.  It&#039;s too late for Bloomberg (the ballot access situation would prevent him from getting on in many states.)

McKinney is most likely to benefit from Paul&#039;s collapse.  She&#039;s not even talking Socialist economics any more - it&#039;s all Anti-War conspiracy-laced stuff just like Ron Paul.

She&#039;s a very sharp woman and an even sharper political strategist.  Don&#039;t underestmate her.  I&#039;d even be willing to be that the reason she finally declared a couple weeks ago, was because she saw the enormous groundswell for Paul amongst Anti-War types and figured she could cash in on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia McKinney is running on the Green Party ticket.  She&#8217;s like to have ballot status in 45 states.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s recently been reaching out to the Paul voters with her Anti-War message.  It&#8217;s too late for Bloomberg (the ballot access situation would prevent him from getting on in many states.)</p>
<p>McKinney is most likely to benefit from Paul&#8217;s collapse.  She&#8217;s not even talking Socialist economics any more &#8211; it&#8217;s all Anti-War conspiracy-laced stuff just like Ron Paul.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a very sharp woman and an even sharper political strategist.  Don&#8217;t underestmate her.  I&#8217;d even be willing to be that the reason she finally declared a couple weeks ago, was because she saw the enormous groundswell for Paul amongst Anti-War types and figured she could cash in on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Citizen Smith</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386140</link>
		<dc:creator>Citizen Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Huckabee and Obama have a little more likelihood of coming out of the primaries. Also, I&#039;m not entirely convinced that Ron Paul wont run as a libertarian. He has a lot of moment and money at this point, and he seems to be saving it for something besides the Republican primaries. 

I would like to see some data on a four way race between Bloomberg, Huck, Obama and Paul.

Also I encourage you all to check out the draft bloomberg movement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Huckabee and Obama have a little more likelihood of coming out of the primaries. Also, I&#8217;m not entirely convinced that Ron Paul wont run as a libertarian. He has a lot of moment and money at this point, and he seems to be saving it for something besides the Republican primaries. </p>
<p>I would like to see some data on a four way race between Bloomberg, Huck, Obama and Paul.</p>
<p>Also I encourage you all to check out the draft bloomberg movement</p>
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		<title>By: Mick Russom</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Russom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drink LiberTEA at the Teaparty, Dec 16, 2007. Drink it for the first time.

All other candidates DENY LIBERTY.

Ron Paul is the greatest candidate I&#039;ve ever seen. Consistent for 30 years. No flip flops. We are done with WAR, we want a real currency, we want peace, we want the welfare-state for the military industrial complex to END, we want to fix America and stop policing the world and to stop the authoritarian oppression here NOW.

Here is what the US Government without Ron Paul in charge has done to us:

- 9 trillion in debt
- 850 billion trade deficit
- War in Iraq
- War in Afghanistan
- Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda alive
- Fomenting War with Iran
- 12.25 trillion M3 money supply, and expanding (massive inflation)

Ron Paulâ€™s record is crystal clean perfect and consistent. He takes no money from anyone but people and constituents. He is as pure as they come.

One of my favorite quotes about Dr. Paul, â€œYouâ€™re working for the most honest man in Congress.â€ That was John McCain speaking to Kent Snyder in 1988.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drink LiberTEA at the Teaparty, Dec 16, 2007. Drink it for the first time.</p>
<p>All other candidates DENY LIBERTY.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is the greatest candidate I&#8217;ve ever seen. Consistent for 30 years. No flip flops. We are done with WAR, we want a real currency, we want peace, we want the welfare-state for the military industrial complex to END, we want to fix America and stop policing the world and to stop the authoritarian oppression here NOW.</p>
<p>Here is what the US Government without Ron Paul in charge has done to us:</p>
<p>- 9 trillion in debt<br />
- 850 billion trade deficit<br />
- War in Iraq<br />
- War in Afghanistan<br />
- Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda alive<br />
- Fomenting War with Iran<br />
- 12.25 trillion M3 money supply, and expanding (massive inflation)</p>
<p>Ron Paulâ€™s record is crystal clean perfect and consistent. He takes no money from anyone but people and constituents. He is as pure as they come.</p>
<p>One of my favorite quotes about Dr. Paul, â€œYouâ€™re working for the most honest man in Congress.â€ That was John McCain speaking to Kent Snyder in 1988.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386086</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a RON PAUL supporter and I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER vote for
CFR BILLIONAIRE Bloomberg. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN MIND. You
will never change RON PAUL&#039;s supporter&#039;s minds to vote for Bloomberg. After
what this country has gone thru with Bush, do you really think the averge
Joe is going to vote for a BILLIONARE???????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a RON PAUL supporter and I would NEVER, NEVER, NEVER vote for<br />
CFR BILLIONAIRE Bloomberg. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FRIGGIN MIND. You<br />
will never change RON PAUL&#8217;s supporter&#8217;s minds to vote for Bloomberg. After<br />
what this country has gone thru with Bush, do you really think the averge<br />
Joe is going to vote for a BILLIONARE???????</p>
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		<title>By: Unite For Mike &#187; &#187; Mike Bloomberg Versus Ron Paul on Being Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386074</link>
		<dc:creator>Unite For Mike &#187; &#187; Mike Bloomberg Versus Ron Paul on Being Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] another discussion regarding this same matter is going on over at Donklephant.  SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &quot;Mike Bloomberg Versus Ron Paul on Being Libertarian&quot;, url: [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] another discussion regarding this same matter is going on over at Donklephant.  SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: &#8220;Mike Bloomberg Versus Ron Paul on Being Libertarian&#8221;, url: [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386007</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian read my mind (or I read his and didn&#039;t realize it). &quot;Sore loser laws&quot; can&#039;t stop a write-in campaign, even if they do apply to the presidential race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian read my mind (or I read his and didn&#8217;t realize it). &#8220;Sore loser laws&#8221; can&#8217;t stop a write-in campaign, even if they do apply to the presidential race.</p>
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		<title>By: Elyas</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-386004</link>
		<dc:creator>Elyas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 03:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time to stop making assumptions based on Giuliani versus Hillary matchups. Neither one is leading in the key primary states, and even if one of the two wins their nomination, it&#039;s very unlikely that they both will at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time to stop making assumptions based on Giuliani versus Hillary matchups. Neither one is leading in the key primary states, and even if one of the two wins their nomination, it&#8217;s very unlikely that they both will at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-385997</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/07/20/do-sore-loser-laws-apply-to-presidential-candidates/

Justin, you need to follow through on your research.  &quot;Sore loser laws&quot; do not apply to presidential candidates.  This was from the link you provided.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/07/20/do-sore-loser-laws-apply-to-presidential-candidates/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/07/20/do-sore-loser-laws-apply-to-presidential-candidates/</a></p>
<p>Justin, you need to follow through on your research.  &#8220;Sore loser laws&#8221; do not apply to presidential candidates.  This was from the link you provided.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Z</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-385992</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who are you kidding with this garbage. Media hype of a Billionaire who&#039;s done what? Stands for zip, zero, nada, nothing, that&#039;s what Bloomberg done for me. For the little guy, me, he&#039;s just more big brother. 
Don&#039;t believe the hype. No disrespect to Bloomberg but he&#039;s a Zionist lap dog. Heel, Bloomberg, heel.  Frankly our countries had enough of Neocons an Zionism. 
F&#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are you kidding with this garbage. Media hype of a Billionaire who&#8217;s done what? Stands for zip, zero, nada, nothing, that&#8217;s what Bloomberg done for me. For the little guy, me, he&#8217;s just more big brother.<br />
Don&#8217;t believe the hype. No disrespect to Bloomberg but he&#8217;s a Zionist lap dog. Heel, Bloomberg, heel.  Frankly our countries had enough of Neocons an Zionism.<br />
F&#8217;em.</p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-2/#comment-385988</link>
		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58778 more of the same bilderberg puppets...yeah, great choice, if bloomberg runs i am moving to panama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58778" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58778</a> more of the same bilderberg puppets&#8230;yeah, great choice, if bloomberg runs i am moving to panama!</p>
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		<title>By: NH</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-385985</link>
		<dc:creator>NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 00:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg = David Rockefeller

This truly shows that this writer has no clue who is or what Ron Paul stands for.

Bloomberg?!?!?

I&#039;m still ROTFLMAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg = David Rockefeller</p>
<p>This truly shows that this writer has no clue who is or what Ron Paul stands for.</p>
<p>Bloomberg?!?!?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still ROTFLMAO.</p>
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		<title>By: NH</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-385984</link>
		<dc:creator>NH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UH Bloomberg is the perfect CFR spoiler who will ensure that Hillary gets in with 42% just like Hitler and Bill Clinton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UH Bloomberg is the perfect CFR spoiler who will ensure that Hillary gets in with 42% just like Hitler and Bill Clinton.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-385983</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I agree that this could indeed be a perfect storm for a third party candidate.&quot;

Carolyn, how so? All of the independents, libertarians, constitutionalists, etc. are all supporting Paul right now. With Paul as the GOP nominee, there wouldn&#039;t be a need for a 3rd party candidate to fill in some perceived void. 

The people pushing RP to run 3rd party are GOP insiders who are scared to death at the possibility of Paul winning this thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree that this could indeed be a perfect storm for a third party candidate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carolyn, how so? All of the independents, libertarians, constitutionalists, etc. are all supporting Paul right now. With Paul as the GOP nominee, there wouldn&#8217;t be a need for a 3rd party candidate to fill in some perceived void. </p>
<p>The people pushing RP to run 3rd party are GOP insiders who are scared to death at the possibility of Paul winning this thing.</p>
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		<title>By: cfountain72</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-385982</link>
		<dc:creator>cfountain72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Bloomberg thing is a mystery to me. He is basically a wealthy liberal. What constituency does he serve that is not already covered by Rudy or Hillary? No, I&#039;m not being facetious. Seriously what is the draw? I haven&#039;t seen any signs saying &#039;Run, Bloomie, Run.&#039; I&#039;m just a simple Ron Paul supporter, but (other than his considerble personal fortune) why is he even being discussed?

Peace be with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Bloomberg thing is a mystery to me. He is basically a wealthy liberal. What constituency does he serve that is not already covered by Rudy or Hillary? No, I&#8217;m not being facetious. Seriously what is the draw? I haven&#8217;t seen any signs saying &#8216;Run, Bloomie, Run.&#8217; I&#8217;m just a simple Ron Paul supporter, but (other than his considerble personal fortune) why is he even being discussed?</p>
<p>Peace be with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2007/12/13/ron-pauls-loss-could-be-mike-bloombergs-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-385980</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 23:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin come on! Pretty soon I&#039;m going to need boots up to my neck to wade through all your BS! Why would Paul supporters support Bloomberg, a statist, socialist who&#039;ll only hurt the Democrats? I say let Bloomberg run 3rd party to his heart&#039;s content. Where would he get his support from? Certainly not from Paul supporters, who&#039;ll stay home or write-in Paul&#039;s name if he doesn&#039;t run 3rd party (and he shouldn&#039;t).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin come on! Pretty soon I&#8217;m going to need boots up to my neck to wade through all your BS! Why would Paul supporters support Bloomberg, a statist, socialist who&#8217;ll only hurt the Democrats? I say let Bloomberg run 3rd party to his heart&#8217;s content. Where would he get his support from? Certainly not from Paul supporters, who&#8217;ll stay home or write-in Paul&#8217;s name if he doesn&#8217;t run 3rd party (and he shouldn&#8217;t).</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Marbry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carolyn Marbry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this could indeed be a perfect storm for a third party candidate.  I don&#039;t agree that that candidate is Bloomberg or Kucinich or even Ron Paul. 

Several weeks ago, Phillies 2008 paid for a national poll that showed surprising and very encouraging results for both the Libertarian Party and Dr. Phillies&#039; campaign. 

The telephone survey of 1000 Likely Voters was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research on November 8 and 11, 2007. Pulse Opinion Research, LLC is an independent public opinion research firm using automated polling methodology and procedures licensed from Rasmussen Reports, LLC.

The first poll question:  There are many political parties in the United States with that have various beliefs on each issue.  Generally speaking,  which political party do your views come closest to.... the Republican party, the Democratic party, the Libertarian party or are you truly independent? 

a.      Republican
b.      Democrat
c.      Libertarian
d.      Some other political party
e.      You are truly independent
f.      Not sure
                LV&#039;s    Male   Female
Republican      31%      34%    28%
Democrat        37%      31%    44%
Libertarian      6%       8%     4%
Some other
political party  8%      10%     5%
You are truly 
independent      16%     16%    15%
Not sure         3%      1%      4%

6% may not seem significant, but you have to look at the delta since the last Presidential election, when we failed to poll at even 0.6%.  That&#039;s huge, considering there has been no major recruitment campaign.

But of even greater interest is the fact that when compared against then frontrunners Clinton and Giuliani, George Phillies and his Libertarian stances drew a surprising 12% of the support from the 1000 likely voters polled.  The pertinent questions were:

&quot;In thinking about the next Presidential election, suppose you had a
choice between Republican Rudy Giuliani, who promises to cut taxes
and win the war on terror and Democrat Hillary Clinton, who promises
to dtrengthen the middle class and provide universal health care. If
the election were held today would you vote for Republican Rudy
Giuliani or Democrat Hillary Clinton?&quot;

Clinton 48%
Giuliani 39%
&quot;some other candidate&quot;  9%
4% not sure.

BUT...

&quot;Okay and suppose you had a choice between Republican Rudy Giuliani,
Democrat Hillary Clinton and Libertarian George Phillies, who
promises to end the War in Iraq, secure the borders and restore civil
rights. If the election were held today would you vote for Republican
Rudy Giuliani, Democrat Hillary Clinton or Libertarian George
Phillies?&quot;

Clinton 41%, 
Giuliani 34%
&quot;some other candidate&quot;  7% 
&quot;not sure&quot; 6%
Libertarian front-runner George Phillies 12% 

That is higher than any Libertarian has ever polled in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this could indeed be a perfect storm for a third party candidate.  I don&#8217;t agree that that candidate is Bloomberg or Kucinich or even Ron Paul. </p>
<p>Several weeks ago, Phillies 2008 paid for a national poll that showed surprising and very encouraging results for both the Libertarian Party and Dr. Phillies&#8217; campaign. </p>
<p>The telephone survey of 1000 Likely Voters was conducted by Pulse Opinion Research on November 8 and 11, 2007. Pulse Opinion Research, LLC is an independent public opinion research firm using automated polling methodology and procedures licensed from Rasmussen Reports, LLC.</p>
<p>The first poll question:  There are many political parties in the United States with that have various beliefs on each issue.  Generally speaking,  which political party do your views come closest to&#8230;. the Republican party, the Democratic party, the Libertarian party or are you truly independent? </p>
<p>a.      Republican<br />
b.      Democrat<br />
c.      Libertarian<br />
d.      Some other political party<br />
e.      You are truly independent<br />
f.      Not sure<br />
                LV&#8217;s    Male   Female<br />
Republican      31%      34%    28%<br />
Democrat        37%      31%    44%<br />
Libertarian      6%       8%     4%<br />
Some other<br />
political party  8%      10%     5%<br />
You are truly<br />
independent      16%     16%    15%<br />
Not sure         3%      1%      4%</p>
<p>6% may not seem significant, but you have to look at the delta since the last Presidential election, when we failed to poll at even 0.6%.  That&#8217;s huge, considering there has been no major recruitment campaign.</p>
<p>But of even greater interest is the fact that when compared against then frontrunners Clinton and Giuliani, George Phillies and his Libertarian stances drew a surprising 12% of the support from the 1000 likely voters polled.  The pertinent questions were:</p>
<p>&#8220;In thinking about the next Presidential election, suppose you had a<br />
choice between Republican Rudy Giuliani, who promises to cut taxes<br />
and win the war on terror and Democrat Hillary Clinton, who promises<br />
to dtrengthen the middle class and provide universal health care. If<br />
the election were held today would you vote for Republican Rudy<br />
Giuliani or Democrat Hillary Clinton?&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton 48%<br />
Giuliani 39%<br />
&#8220;some other candidate&#8221;  9%<br />
4% not sure.</p>
<p>BUT&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Okay and suppose you had a choice between Republican Rudy Giuliani,<br />
Democrat Hillary Clinton and Libertarian George Phillies, who<br />
promises to end the War in Iraq, secure the borders and restore civil<br />
rights. If the election were held today would you vote for Republican<br />
Rudy Giuliani, Democrat Hillary Clinton or Libertarian George<br />
Phillies?&#8221;</p>
<p>Clinton 41%,<br />
Giuliani 34%<br />
&#8220;some other candidate&#8221;  7%<br />
&#8220;not sure&#8221; 6%<br />
Libertarian front-runner George Phillies 12% </p>
<p>That is higher than any Libertarian has ever polled in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: chris in thorofare</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris in thorofare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to say it again - stop feeding this troll. Justin has a wonderful record of being incorrect on almost every prediction he has made. He only posts controversial things to get web traffic and $$. This will be the last time I visit Donklephant, and I hope all Ron Paul supporters do the same. Visit dailypaul.com or ronpaulforums, or better yet, get off your computer and spread the word about Ron Paul.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to say it again &#8211; stop feeding this troll. Justin has a wonderful record of being incorrect on almost every prediction he has made. He only posts controversial things to get web traffic and $$. This will be the last time I visit Donklephant, and I hope all Ron Paul supporters do the same. Visit dailypaul.com or ronpaulforums, or better yet, get off your computer and spread the word about Ron Paul.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These guys just don&#039;t get it.  They really don&#039;t get it.  Let&#039;s just say... If Ron Paul doesn&#039;t become the next President, I really feel sorry any and all politicians. This movement is huge. We are making changes in politics right now and will continue to do so. Ron Paul cured our apathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These guys just don&#8217;t get it.  They really don&#8217;t get it.  Let&#8217;s just say&#8230; If Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t become the next President, I really feel sorry any and all politicians. This movement is huge. We are making changes in politics right now and will continue to do so. Ron Paul cured our apathy.</p>
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