Comments on: 30% Want A Third Party http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jimmy the Dhimmi http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386892 Jimmy the Dhimmi Mon, 24 Dec 2007 18:43:10 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386892 What specific policies has Obama proposed? Change?.... Ok , he's got my vote! What specific policies has Obama proposed? Change?…. Ok , he’s got my vote!

]]> By: Brian http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386866 Brian Mon, 24 Dec 2007 06:38:48 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386866 Paul ran as a 3rd party candidate in 1988 and saw first-hand the slimy tactics the two-party cartel used to keep guys like him off the ballots. I don't know why Justin keeps posting this 3rd party crap. Why would Paul run 3rd party when he already has the factions (libertarians, constitutionalists, independents, populist left and old right conservatives) under his belt? All of this 3rd party talk is coming from desperate GOP elitists who know that they do not have the votes to win the general election, unless they nominate Paul. Paul ran as a 3rd party candidate in 1988 and saw first-hand the slimy tactics the two-party cartel used to keep guys like him off the ballots.

I don’t know why Justin keeps posting this 3rd party crap. Why would Paul run 3rd party when he already has the factions (libertarians, constitutionalists, independents, populist left and old right conservatives) under his belt?

All of this 3rd party talk is coming from desperate GOP elitists who know that they do not have the votes to win the general election, unless they nominate Paul.

]]> By: George Phillies http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386857 George Phillies Mon, 24 Dec 2007 03:27:44 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386857 My campaign tried the same poll, Clinton-Giuliani and Clinton-Giuliani-Phillies. To compensate for the voters currently ignoring the election, for each candidate the party was named, and a few core stands were identified. We tried to be as fair and positive for each half-dozen word statements of the stands. In Republican Rudy Giuliani-Democrat Hillary Clinton-Libertarian George Phillies, with stands noted, the real Libertarian candidate polled not at the 9% noted above for Paul, but at 12%. When people were asked whether they identify as Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or some other party, "Libertarian" polled at 6%. This was an orthodox random poll by a commercial house, with 1000 'likely voter' respondents, not an internet poll. My campaign tried the same poll, Clinton-Giuliani and Clinton-Giuliani-Phillies. To compensate for the voters currently ignoring the election, for each candidate the party was named, and a few core stands were identified. We tried to be as fair and positive for each half-dozen word statements of the stands.

In Republican Rudy Giuliani-Democrat Hillary Clinton-Libertarian George Phillies, with stands noted, the real Libertarian candidate polled not at the 9% noted above for Paul, but at 12%.

When people were asked whether they identify as Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or some other party, “Libertarian” polled at 6%.

This was an orthodox random poll by a commercial house, with 1000 ‘likely voter’ respondents, not an internet poll.

]]> By: S.W. Anderson http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386840 S.W. Anderson Sun, 23 Dec 2007 21:38:31 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386840 It wouldn't matter if Ron Paul were to get $35 million more in contributions, or if Michael Bloomberg were to jump in with $50 million. Trying to build a third party around a candidate, even a well-financed and popular one, would be like trying to build a huge convention hall while hosting a huge convention at the same site — one thrown together in the midst of last-minute chaos. A candidate from neither major party might capture the White House at some point, if the public gets sufficiently disgusted with the Republicans and Democrats. I doubt he or she would have a very happy or productive time as president, but depending on the person it's possible that might be overcome. Building a third party with legs is a whole 'nother matter, much more complex and challenging. And it has to build up from the bottom, by winning state legislative seats and governorships, then House and Senate seats. Then, a third-party presidential candidate would have something to work with. I mean no insult, but I have to agree with Vicky. Maybe your blog should be renamed Paulephant. It wouldn’t matter if Ron Paul were to get $35 million more in contributions, or if Michael Bloomberg were to jump in with $50 million. Trying to build a third party around a candidate, even a well-financed and popular one, would be like trying to build a huge convention hall while hosting a huge convention at the same site — one thrown together in the midst of last-minute chaos.

A candidate from neither major party might capture the White House at some point, if the public gets sufficiently disgusted with the Republicans and Democrats. I doubt he or she would have a very happy or productive time as president, but depending on the person it’s possible that might be overcome.

Building a third party with legs is a whole ‘nother matter, much more complex and challenging. And it has to build up from the bottom, by winning state legislative seats and governorships, then House and Senate seats. Then, a third-party presidential candidate would have something to work with.

I mean no insult, but I have to agree with Vicky. Maybe your blog should be renamed Paulephant.

]]> By: Vicky http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386836 Vicky Sun, 23 Dec 2007 20:35:50 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386836 Justin's failsafe. Need traffic, write another Ron Paul third party post. What is this like the 50th? Justin’s failsafe.

Need traffic, write another Ron Paul third party post.

What is this like the 50th?

]]> By: anon http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386833 anon Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:02:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386833 Ron Paul received contributions from over 100,000 different people this quarter. He received $18,000,000 from those 100,000 people. His support is wide and deep. Look around your town and notice you see RP signs everywhere. Grab a cup of coffee and go to http://freeme.tv Ron Paul received contributions from over 100,000 different people this quarter. He received $18,000,000 from those 100,000 people. His support is wide and deep. Look around your town and notice you see RP signs everywhere. Grab a cup of coffee and go to http://freeme.tv

]]> By: SmokeyDPot http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/comment-page-1/#comment-386832 SmokeyDPot Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:49:21 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2007/12/23/30-want-a-third-party/#comment-386832 hell yes. this country is over ripe for change. we are literally bursting at the seams!! hell yes. this country is over ripe for change. we are literally bursting at the seams!!

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