I can’t stop laughing. That’s a suggestive construct.

For argument’s sake, let’s indulge your fancy and imagine any of the other candidates offered monetary support from the Mafia, drug cartels. KKK or AlQuaeda, etc. Would you look at it the same way?

Besides, do you think KKK afficionados, or any subversive grouping likes to be indiscriminately generous with their cash..because?

The same people that harped on Huckabee for something that occurred naturally in the video shot, are now defending to the tenth degree Ron Paul’s choice words.

Personally, I don’t have a problem with any mention of God, except for exploitative reasons.
However, for those that use a scale for one, and another for their own pet candidate, the word that comes to mind is hypocrites.

To Dan’s last comment:
“The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.” (Pslam14:1; Psalm 53:1)

There is no difference between this line in the Declaration of Independence and the ad’s less elegant reference to “God-given rights.”

ha. oh yes there is.

and it is this: “Creator” does not necessarily mean “God”.

you will most likely whine about this being a “technicality”. however, as already opened the door for that with the definitive statement of “*no* difference”, a technicality is most certainly relevant.

also, considering there is no god, you’re all retarded. :)

Kim, I heard the lame excuse about the non-working majority before. Save it! Get some principles and integrity. If the president insists on vetoing everything congress tries to pass then congress should veto everything the president tries to pass. The congress should begin an impeachment hearing last year. Yeah, I know what your saying to yourself. But the impeachment hearings would be a big waste of time and it wouldn’t lead to the impeachment of Bush so what’s the point. Again. Get some integrity. If Bush insists on destroying our country then perhaps our government should stop until law and order is re-established in this country instead of allowing der fuhrer to conduct his facist fantasies on the world and our country.

And as for who does believe in freedom for all, it is a constant refrain of the Paulistas that Congressman Paul does. Constant. And untrue.

That is either the scariest or the stupidest statement of this entire discussion here tonight.

Mr. Jimmy, you equated the American people’s liberty with “some crap.” ALL Americans – yes, even anti-Semitics and racists — have their God-given right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Just because you and I disagree with anti-Semitics and racists doesn’t mean that they should not be able to hold and espouse their beliefs, not be able to associate and protest, and not be able to campaign and vote for their freely-chosen representatives. They have that fundamental right, as ugly and disgusting as it may be to you and me. And, we should all struggle to protect their rights because, one day, those same rights could be taken away from you and me too if we just sit idly by and allow it to happen. Extremists in both right and left wings — (cough) Mr. Huckabee and Ms. Clinton (cough) — would love to take away some of our rights that are inconvenient to them and their followers if we let ‘em.

For you to suggest that the liberties of those Americans you disagree with are “some crap” is the height of both ignorance and arrogance. I suggest you seek enlightenment in any way you can find it. Might I also suggest adding a dose of humility for good measure?

Logan.

Who does Jim S? The corporate bought-off Democrats or the corporate bought-off Republicans? How is it that America spoke its voice last November giving the Democrats a mandate to hold Bush accountable yet what do we got? We got Democrats biding their time, waiting for the dismal tenure of the Bush administration to come to an end so they can gain power.

Why instead didn’t they act on the conviction of the overwhelming majority of Americans that said no to this war, no to spying, no to torture, no to corporate greed? Again, I voted for the Democrats do do this. What have they done since gaining both houses? They’ve held lots of meetings and lots of “congressional hearings.” What came of these sham hearings? Nothing! Every person that was committing flagrant crimes in the Bush administration walked scot-free. Why? because the Democrats aren’t concerned with holding Bush accountable. Sure! sure! You will see Democrats in spades speak tough and scold Bush’s policies and illegal/unconstitutional laws but they do nothing. They’ve done zilch! In fact they’ve went out of their way to reach across the aisle and co-sponsor unconstitutional legislation and for all the hoopla the Democrats raise over the Iraq war they essentially agree with Bush’s policy. An unjust occupation
of a country based on a pack of lies. The Dems don’t argue that we should get out of that country for good they instead argue about how to “better manage” it.

Democrats are on record supporting the idea that America should stay in Iraq for at least another decade. I say no more. No more lies, no more election time rhetoric. The time for that is past, as in the past November or do you remember? Dems ran on change and what do we got? Bush still running the show and Dems making “deals” with him.

Bullshyt! Enough is enough. I’ll vote for a Republican just to spite this spineless congress. They had their chance. They’ve showed their true colors. Ron Paul!

Ron Paul does not believe in freedom for all. Why do his supporters insist on promoting this myth? He is perfectly happy to allow states to limit the rights of individuals if the state decides that it is upholding “moral standards” in doing so. The federal government is not the only entity capable of limiting individual freedoms in spite of what Ron Paul and his supporters claim.

Answer: Freedom

Jimmy I’ve seen your posts a lot on here and it’s very rare that it’s a positive comment. You seem ok with the negativity. In fact it seems that negativity is your M.O. I haven’t ever met you, but do consider you to be riff-raff. It’s all perspective.
Freedom for all, or none.

I’m glad Ron Paul is religious. It’s shrewd and quite frankly necessary for him to court the Christian base of the Republican party. In order for Ron Paul to have a fighting chance he needs to pull voters from every direction. Ignoring the evangelical/Christian bloc of the Republican party is in effect ignoring two-thirds of the party, something he can ill-afford to do.

However, since I’m an agnostic leaning atheist I will be watching Ron Paul very closely regarding my rights to practice my faith, which is no faith. To each his own as far as I am concerned.

One last note. The way that Ron Paul speaks of religion seems normal. The way the rest of the Republican party uses religion seems contrived and scary. I don’t believe Ron Paul practice his faith in a medieval Crusader fashion but the rest of the Republican party acts like it’s ready for the Wrath and it welcomes it. We should be working to make sure this fruitloop
brand of religion doesn’t take any further hold of our country than it already has. Religion yes! Holy Roller Millenarianism no!

Let met illuminate you with some extra wattage.

These groups that “flock” to Dr. Paul also shop at Wal-mart. Sam Walton’s people do nothing about it. They do not give back their money. They even encourage them by advertising sale prices. Are they fostering hate towards African Americans or Jews?

NO – they are just offering a product that appeals to EVERYONE.

Liberty appeals to all groups.
Privacy appeals to all groups.
Lower or No taxes appeals to most groups.

Whether I dislike what a particular group stands for or not they have freedom of speech and the right to persue any religion they want.

Are you to Dhim to understand this?

What I am surprised about is that anyone would be blogging against someone who is for liberty, privacy, and property rights.

But what does any of that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Nice play on freedom = slavery there jimmy, thankfully most people will be inteligent enough to see through it.

lol, I take it back Jimmy please continue, you brighten my day :)

You could say that he enables white supremicism, anti-semetism, and 9/11 conspiracy theorists to fester, under the guise of “individual liberty.” He does not confront them, yet continues to pander to them on the Alex Jones radio show, accepts their donations, saying they have a “right to free speech” and all that jazz, when he could – if he so chose – to reject their support as protest, giving back said donations, boycot the nutters’ Politburo and vow to use the power of his presidency to stamp out white supremicism and anti-semitism. But of course, he doesn’t do that – that would infringe on peoples liberty, or some crap.

If fascism comes to this country, it will not be wrapped in a flag, carrying a cross. It will grow from a grass-roots populist movement only when those in power chose to do nothing, avoiding confrontation and therefore enabling the cancer to grow. Of all the candidates in the field, Ron Paul is the most likely to sit back while the tumor metasticizes.

Ron Paul is not a white supremecist, but the white supremecists are still inspired by everyhing else he stands for – His presidency will boost their moralle, their ranks will therefore grow, and President Paul will continue to pander to them if it is politically expedient for him, and do nothing to block the rise in fascism in this country, citing “individual liberty” as his raison d’etre.