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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maddow &#38; Alter: &#8220;The New Yorker cover is irresponsible because they should know that Americans are too stupid to understand it.&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Maddow &#38; Alter: &#8220;The New Yorker cover is irresponsible because they should know that Americans are too stupid to understand it.&#8221;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] confronted and corrected in the strongest possible terms. I have done so myself at DWSUWF and at Donklephant and will continue to do [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are Older Voters Exceedingly Gullible?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Are Older Voters Exceedingly Gullible?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as I&#8217;ve mentioned in the past, my own grandfather has bought into this nonsense, and it&#8217;s taken multiple talks with him to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Church Answers Media&#8217;s Portrayal Of Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s Church Answers Media&#8217;s Portrayal Of Wright</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] it was the Muslim smears, then it was the flag pin, then the &#8220;refusal&#8221; to say the Pledge of Allegiance, then the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-3/#comment-388143</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, concerning the word muslem, neither of the dictionaries I consulted carried it. Guess they were incomplete. 

How about you taking back all your prevarications?
Starting from the ones in the first thread &quot;â€œWhy Do Republicans Fear Huckabee?â€  followed by the â€œObamaâ€™s Victory speechâ€ and ending with this one. You misread, misquoted, patronized and cast aspersions. My calling you a moron and a liar was a direct response to your verbal assaults.

To hold opinions that differ with yours doesnâ€™t equate to lying; and the fact that I comment on this blog doesn&#039;t give you the right to get nasty and post all types of bunkum. Others have dissented with me and vice versa but it remained civil and calm. There was one exception, but it never descended to your level.

Finally, read before you leap into rage. My question to probligo was legit.
Ergo, if after reading my opinions you canâ€™t respond in a civil fashion, IGNORE them. I do the same for yours. However, I am not going to stand by if you continue engaging in the above tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, concerning the word muslem, neither of the dictionaries I consulted carried it. Guess they were incomplete. </p>
<p>How about you taking back all your prevarications?<br />
Starting from the ones in the first thread &#8220;â€œWhy Do Republicans Fear Huckabee?â€  followed by the â€œObamaâ€™s Victory speechâ€ and ending with this one. You misread, misquoted, patronized and cast aspersions. My calling you a moron and a liar was a direct response to your verbal assaults.</p>
<p>To hold opinions that differ with yours doesnâ€™t equate to lying; and the fact that I comment on this blog doesn&#8217;t give you the right to get nasty and post all types of bunkum. Others have dissented with me and vice versa but it remained civil and calm. There was one exception, but it never descended to your level.</p>
<p>Finally, read before you leap into rage. My question to probligo was legit.<br />
Ergo, if after reading my opinions you canâ€™t respond in a civil fashion, IGNORE them. I do the same for yours. However, I am not going to stand by if you continue engaging in the above tactics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems rather clear to me now...Obama is a big ole&#039; Muslim.  Yup, he&#039;s an Allah-lover head-to-toe.  I&#039;m personally offended that Michelle is running around without her hijab.  Barack needs to think seriously about...well, killing her.  It is the only right thing for a Muslim man to do -- the chick is out of control.  Given the media&#039;s love for multiculturalism, I&#039;m sure everyone would understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems rather clear to me now&#8230;Obama is a big ole&#8217; Muslim.  Yup, he&#8217;s an Allah-lover head-to-toe.  I&#8217;m personally offended that Michelle is running around without her hijab.  Barack needs to think seriously about&#8230;well, killing her.  It is the only right thing for a Muslim man to do &#8212; the chick is out of control.  Given the media&#8217;s love for multiculturalism, I&#8217;m sure everyone would understand.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 10:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,  sorry, it&#039;s very dificult for me to be civil while people do their very best to destroy this great country with lies and ignorance.  Good thing the founding fathers didn&#039;t value civility above freedom, truth and the constitution, trust me, they are spinning in their graves.

Elisabetta: 
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This 
MusÂ·lim      /?m?zl?m, ?m?z-, ?m?s-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[muhz-lim, mooz-, moos-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, noun, plural -lims, -lim. 
â€“adjective 1. of or pertaining to the religion, law, or civilization of Islam.  
â€“noun 2. an adherent of Islam.  
3. Black Muslim.  
Also, Moslem, Muslem (for defs. 1, 2).

Do you ever admit you&#039;re wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,  sorry, it&#8217;s very dificult for me to be civil while people do their very best to destroy this great country with lies and ignorance.  Good thing the founding fathers didn&#8217;t value civility above freedom, truth and the constitution, trust me, they are spinning in their graves.</p>
<p>Elisabetta:<br />
Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) &#8211; Cite This Source &#8211; Share This<br />
MusÂ·lim      /?m?zl?m, ?m?z-, ?m?s-/ Pronunciation Key &#8211; Show Spelled Pronunciation[muhz-lim, mooz-, moos-] Pronunciation Key &#8211; Show IPA Pronunciation adjective, noun, plural -lims, -lim.<br />
â€“adjective 1. of or pertaining to the religion, law, or civilization of Islam.<br />
â€“noun 2. an adherent of Islam.<br />
3. Black Muslim.<br />
Also, Moslem, Muslem (for defs. 1, 2).</p>
<p>Do you ever admit you&#8217;re wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388100</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BTW Elisabetta, muslem is a perfectly acceptable spelling for the word used to describe people of the Islamic faith. I suggest you look things before you try to belittle people. All you did was display your incredible stupidity.&quot;

Really? The word you spelled doesn&#039;t exist in the dictionary. The other variant of muslim is &quot;moslem.&quot;

The rest goes without saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BTW Elisabetta, muslem is a perfectly acceptable spelling for the word used to describe people of the Islamic faith. I suggest you look things before you try to belittle people. All you did was display your incredible stupidity.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? The word you spelled doesn&#8217;t exist in the dictionary. The other variant of muslim is &#8220;moslem.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rest goes without saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, 

Maybe you missed it, but I only respond to the idiot when he engages in ad homs. He can&#039;t discuss the issues and has made unsubstantiated allegations, calling me stupid, liar and worse with such venom on anything I comment that  leads me to think he is off his rocker.
 
Every time I write a positive comment about someone (now it&#039;s Romney) he engages in personal attacks as exemplified in this thread!! 

I don&#039;t care if he ignores my posts, but I am not going to let his bouncers remain unchallenged. If anyone here is violating rules of civility, it&#039;s him.  You&#039;d put him in place too if he harassed you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, </p>
<p>Maybe you missed it, but I only respond to the idiot when he engages in ad homs. He can&#8217;t discuss the issues and has made unsubstantiated allegations, calling me stupid, liar and worse with such venom on anything I comment that  leads me to think he is off his rocker.</p>
<p>Every time I write a positive comment about someone (now it&#8217;s Romney) he engages in personal attacks as exemplified in this thread!! </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if he ignores my posts, but I am not going to let his bouncers remain unchallenged. If anyone here is violating rules of civility, it&#8217;s him.  You&#8217;d put him in place too if he harassed you.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People, grow up and can the rhetoric please. Or do you not understand why this site exists? I will turn this car around I swear!

No, but seriously folks, wtf? Calm down. And Elisabetta, your schtick is extremely transparent. Still, it should elicit a response like that from David. Calling people scum? What&#039;s wrong with you?

If this is the type of dialogue you&#039;re going to have, both of you aren&#039;t welcome here. Keep it civil or don&#039;t comment. Pretty simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People, grow up and can the rhetoric please. Or do you not understand why this site exists? I will turn this car around I swear!</p>
<p>No, but seriously folks, wtf? Calm down. And Elisabetta, your schtick is extremely transparent. Still, it should elicit a response like that from David. Calling people scum? What&#8217;s wrong with you?</p>
<p>If this is the type of dialogue you&#8217;re going to have, both of you aren&#8217;t welcome here. Keep it civil or don&#8217;t comment. Pretty simple.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW  Elisabetta, muslem is a perfectly acceptable spelling for the word used to describe people of the Islamic faith.  I suggest you look things before you try to belittle people. All you did was display your incredible stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW  Elisabetta, muslem is a perfectly acceptable spelling for the word used to describe people of the Islamic faith.  I suggest you look things before you try to belittle people. All you did was display your incredible stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see Elisabetta, you blither moronic crap like &quot;Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?&quot; and then ask if I&#039;m &quot;Ignorant or deluded&quot;?  Like I said, I have never encountered a more ignorant and dishonest person than you.  You are even dishonest by republican standards...let me guess, you love Mitt, right?  God help America with dishonest, biggoted scum like you trying to destroy her at every turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see Elisabetta, you blither moronic crap like &#8220;Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?&#8221; and then ask if I&#8217;m &#8220;Ignorant or deluded&#8221;?  Like I said, I have never encountered a more ignorant and dishonest person than you.  You are even dishonest by republican standards&#8230;let me guess, you love Mitt, right?  God help America with dishonest, biggoted scum like you trying to destroy her at every turn.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388064</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infamous Quote of the Day by david:

&quot;No one was bashing him on his religion since heâ€™s not now nor ever was a muslem&quot;

Ignorant or deluded. Take your pick.  What did you think was the gist of Justin&#039;s post? 

and what&#039;s a *muslem*? PAY ATTENTION!! The last question is rhetorical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infamous Quote of the Day by david:</p>
<p>&#8220;No one was bashing him on his religion since heâ€™s not now nor ever was a muslem&#8221;</p>
<p>Ignorant or deluded. Take your pick.  What did you think was the gist of Justin&#8217;s post? </p>
<p>and what&#8217;s a *muslem*? PAY ATTENTION!! The last question is rhetorical.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388052</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probligo  asked:

&quot;When a viral campaign like this starts - Who starts these things? What kind of person sends them to all of their friends? What are they hoping to achieve?&quot;

The person that put it out there for others to ponder, is none other than Hillary Clinton, aided by other dems. Hillary (as Bill) has smear down to a science.  Incidentally she is a woman. Lest we forget, a dem. Her reasons are all too clear.
The causes for the aversion toward her may vary, but her gender is not one of them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probligo  asked:</p>
<p>&#8220;When a viral campaign like this starts &#8211; Who starts these things? What kind of person sends them to all of their friends? What are they hoping to achieve?&#8221;</p>
<p>The person that put it out there for others to ponder, is none other than Hillary Clinton, aided by other dems. Hillary (as Bill) has smear down to a science.  Incidentally she is a woman. Lest we forget, a dem. Her reasons are all too clear.<br />
The causes for the aversion toward her may vary, but her gender is not one of them</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388044</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering how long before you interjected your inanity in this thread.

Have you taken your drugs today? That foaming at the mouth is repulsive. Your behavior borders stalking.

Just 4 days ago, you posted an absolute canard about something I never said and you call me a liar and stupid? 
Here: C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Obamaâ€™s Victory Speech.htm

You are one of those people unable to carry on a conversation outside of verbal attacks. There is no substance to your comments. No matter the topic, all you can spew is &quot;Bush....invectives.&quot;

A fool never knows when to quit. You are a sight to behold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering how long before you interjected your inanity in this thread.</p>
<p>Have you taken your drugs today? That foaming at the mouth is repulsive. Your behavior borders stalking.</p>
<p>Just 4 days ago, you posted an absolute canard about something I never said and you call me a liar and stupid?<br />
Here: C:\WINDOWS\Desktop\Obamaâ€™s Victory Speech.htm</p>
<p>You are one of those people unable to carry on a conversation outside of verbal attacks. There is no substance to your comments. No matter the topic, all you can spew is &#8220;Bush&#8230;.invectives.&#8221;</p>
<p>A fool never knows when to quit. You are a sight to behold.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388034</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elisabetta:  &quot;Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?&quot;

No one was bashing him on his religion since he&#039;s not now nor ever was a muslem.  Liar.  You simply can&#039;t help but lie can you?   I really, truly don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever encountered anyone in my life as incredibly dishonest and down right stu-pid as you!!!!  No wonder you love Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elisabetta:  &#8220;Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?&#8221;</p>
<p>No one was bashing him on his religion since he&#8217;s not now nor ever was a muslem.  Liar.  You simply can&#8217;t help but lie can you?   I really, truly don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever encountered anyone in my life as incredibly dishonest and down right stu-pid as you!!!!  No wonder you love Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388028</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>probligo, not only I have addressed your point, but I am still waiting for a rational explanation to your illogical deductions that an individual who raises a question about someone&#039;s religion or chooses not to vote for a candidate that is either black (dem), woman (dem) that individual is - in your mind - guilty of hatred and bias.

It seems to me, you have just shown your own preconceptions. After all, it was you that following your thoughts on bias and hatred wrote, &quot;Listen to Jimmy for a good dose of both.&quot;
Were your intentions to be funny, it was in bad taste.

As for me, I wouldn&#039;t vote for either Obama or Clinton or Edwards because of their ideologies.  Is that good enough for you?

Apropos of chain letter, all my family and friends know I dislike this method of communication. I am wary of most of them. Never received one dealing with politics and very rarely have forwarded them. Solely the ones dealing with personal safety.
In fact, I delete them, with few exceptions, at once.

Now, I have a question that has been waiting for an answer.

Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>probligo, not only I have addressed your point, but I am still waiting for a rational explanation to your illogical deductions that an individual who raises a question about someone&#8217;s religion or chooses not to vote for a candidate that is either black (dem), woman (dem) that individual is &#8211; in your mind &#8211; guilty of hatred and bias.</p>
<p>It seems to me, you have just shown your own preconceptions. After all, it was you that following your thoughts on bias and hatred wrote, &#8220;Listen to Jimmy for a good dose of both.&#8221;<br />
Were your intentions to be funny, it was in bad taste.</p>
<p>As for me, I wouldn&#8217;t vote for either Obama or Clinton or Edwards because of their ideologies.  Is that good enough for you?</p>
<p>Apropos of chain letter, all my family and friends know I dislike this method of communication. I am wary of most of them. Never received one dealing with politics and very rarely have forwarded them. Solely the ones dealing with personal safety.<br />
In fact, I delete them, with few exceptions, at once.</p>
<p>Now, I have a question that has been waiting for an answer.</p>
<p>Where do you stand when someone, besides a black dem, gets bashed due to his religion?</p>
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		<title>By: Elisabetta</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-388027</link>
		<dc:creator>Elisabetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mw, you have dishonestly overlooked your lies about me as you argued to &quot;know&quot; my motives and claim some kind of victory. Not totally surprized considering the source.

fyi, my position - that you continue to misrepresent - hasn&#039;t changed. I was addressing probligo&#039;s irrational logic and I  amended one point that came afterwards.
So, continue to pick and choose what you want to focus on....I have wasted enough time responding to you


To Justin ~

perhaps, you should have addressed mw&#039;s personal attacks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mw, you have dishonestly overlooked your lies about me as you argued to &#8220;know&#8221; my motives and claim some kind of victory. Not totally surprized considering the source.</p>
<p>fyi, my position &#8211; that you continue to misrepresent &#8211; hasn&#8217;t changed. I was addressing probligo&#8217;s irrational logic and I  amended one point that came afterwards.<br />
So, continue to pick and choose what you want to focus on&#8230;.I have wasted enough time responding to you</p>
<p>To Justin ~</p>
<p>perhaps, you should have addressed mw&#8217;s personal attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: probligo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-387963</link>
		<dc:creator>probligo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I will leave the field too.  I love the way that E has avoided my point.  

When a viral campaign like this starts - Who starts these things?  What kind of person sends them to all of their friends?  What are they hoping to achieve?

Here are my answers -

People who are opposed to Obama for any of a number of reasons.

People who agree with the sentiment of the statement,  or are sufficiently stupid to believe that because it is on the &#039;net it &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; be true.

Stopping Obama,  or whoever,  from being elected.

E,  have you ever passed on a chain email without checking its validity?  If you have,  Why?  Oh,  that should be rhetorical - answer not required.  Personally,  any of these things coming in my mailbox -whether I agree or not - they just get binned.

But that is just me...   BTW this morning&#039;s paper has an article on Obama.  I have had no time to read it,  but it carries the tempter that the number of Americans who would vote on racial lines has decreased from 56% to just 6%.  I withdraw my &quot;racist&quot; comment,  but am still nonplussed as to why Muslim is raised as a reason for not voting for the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I will leave the field too.  I love the way that E has avoided my point.  </p>
<p>When a viral campaign like this starts &#8211; Who starts these things?  What kind of person sends them to all of their friends?  What are they hoping to achieve?</p>
<p>Here are my answers -</p>
<p>People who are opposed to Obama for any of a number of reasons.</p>
<p>People who agree with the sentiment of the statement,  or are sufficiently stupid to believe that because it is on the &#8216;net it <b>must</b> be true.</p>
<p>Stopping Obama,  or whoever,  from being elected.</p>
<p>E,  have you ever passed on a chain email without checking its validity?  If you have,  Why?  Oh,  that should be rhetorical &#8211; answer not required.  Personally,  any of these things coming in my mailbox -whether I agree or not &#8211; they just get binned.</p>
<p>But that is just me&#8230;   BTW this morning&#8217;s paper has an article on Obama.  I have had no time to read it,  but it carries the tempter that the number of Americans who would vote on racial lines has decreased from 56% to just 6%.  I withdraw my &#8220;racist&#8221; comment,  but am still nonplussed as to why Muslim is raised as a reason for not voting for the man.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-387946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am satisfied that both Elisabetta and Jimmy have rewritten their positions from what they stated earlier in the thread. All you have to do is read what they wrote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I seem not to have qualified &lt;em&gt;why&lt;/em&gt; Barack was condiered to be a officially a Muslim (that his father was one) in my first post, but I claimed I did in the second one.  my mistake. 

 Anyway, Nothing I said about Sharia law is untrue, but you claim to be an expert on mainstream interpretations of these Mudhabs, so you quote for me a line from those epistles that says apostasy is NOT a crime punishable by death.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am satisfied that both Elisabetta and Jimmy have rewritten their positions from what they stated earlier in the thread. All you have to do is read what they wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p>I seem not to have qualified <em>why</em> Barack was condiered to be a officially a Muslim (that his father was one) in my first post, but I claimed I did in the second one.  my mistake. </p>
<p> Anyway, Nothing I said about Sharia law is untrue, but you claim to be an expert on mainstream interpretations of these Mudhabs, so you quote for me a line from those epistles that says apostasy is NOT a crime punishable by death.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/02/obama-is-not-a-muslim/comment-page-2/#comment-387941</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 21:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck with that Justin. There are people on this thread that know better than Obama whether he was a muslim. You have to admire that kind of deep intuitive thinking.

I am satisfied that both Elisabetta and Jimmy have rewritten their positions from what they stated earlier in the thread. All you have to do is read what they wrote. 

And Jimmy is still wrong about the apostasy, both by describing a minority view of extreme muslims as if holds for the entire religion (it does not - see my learlier comment and link) and by stating it apples to Obama  (who never was a muslim). 

Now I&#039;m done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good luck with that Justin. There are people on this thread that know better than Obama whether he was a muslim. You have to admire that kind of deep intuitive thinking.</p>
<p>I am satisfied that both Elisabetta and Jimmy have rewritten their positions from what they stated earlier in the thread. All you have to do is read what they wrote. </p>
<p>And Jimmy is still wrong about the apostasy, both by describing a minority view of extreme muslims as if holds for the entire religion (it does not &#8211; see my learlier comment and link) and by stating it apples to Obama  (who never was a muslim). </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m done.</p>
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