My original statement, that you jumped all over, was:

“He would like to introduce a comodity backed currency to compete with the Federal Reserve dollar. Why would this not work? Do you really think the American dollar is the choice of the world now?”

You are now trying to save face. Good luck.

From Dictionary.com

pla·gia·rism /?ple?d???r?z?m, -d?i??r?z-/ Pronunciation Key – Show Spelled Pronunciation[pley-juh-riz-uhm, -jee-uh-riz-] Pronunciation Key – Show IPA Pronunciation –noun

1. the unauthorized use or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one’s own original work.
2. something used and represented in this manner.

I would say that was the correct word.

As for me being “a waste of time”. I can see that by the fact you keep coming back for more.

I am willing to call a truce for now. Next time try to be a little more civil.

It is true that I was wrong about the Federal Reserve Note issue. But my claim to you being partially wrong as well was simply based in the fact that while it is a Federal Reserve Note, the authority of the Fed to issue them was explicitly granted by Congress and they work in concert with the Treasury Department. That’s all.

Enough. You are a waste of time and I doubt anyone else is still reading this.

http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange2/current/lectures/human_pop/human_pop.html

Thank you for posting more proof that I was completely correct about the Federal Reserve Notes.

You are funny, you say “But in a way both of us are wrong.” Then you post an article that states my point exactly.

Please in the future if you are going to steal other peoples research at least give them credit by posting the link.

I would be cautious when repeatedly calling someone ignorant and stupid while at the same time telling everyone in a definitive statement,

“To any others reading this who are capable of reason and learning keep in mind that there is no such thing as a Federal Reserve dollar. Dollars are issued by the United States government and printed by the mint.”

That doesn’t look very good.

You state, “You choose not to know things, Darren. You are comfortable with ignoring science in favor of your religious beliefs and your obvious ignorance.”

Great assumption on my “religious beliefs”. I do not belong to a religion.

Science is completely on the Bible’s side…not yours. I ignore nothing.

Be careful what you post next…I am ready.

Question What are Federal Reserve notes and how are they different from United States notes?

Answer Federal Reserve notes are legal tender currency notes. The twelve Federal Reserve Banks issue them into circulation pursuant to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. A commercial bank belonging to the Federal Reserve System can obtain Federal Reserve notes from the Federal Reserve Bank in its district whenever it wishes. It must pay for them in full, dollar for dollar, by drawing down its account with its district Federal Reserve Bank.

Federal Reserve Banks obtain the notes from our Bureau of Engraving and Printing (BEP). It pays the BEP for the cost of producing the notes, which then become liabilities of the Federal Reserve Banks, and obligations of the United States Government.

Congress has specified that a Federal Reserve Bank must hold collateral equal in value to the Federal Reserve notes that the Bank receives. This collateral is chiefly gold certificates and United States securities. This provides backing for the note issue. The idea was that if the Congress dissolved the Federal Reserve System, the United States would take over the notes (liabilities). This would meet the requirements of Section 411, but the government would also take over the assets, which would be of equal value. Federal Reserve notes represent a first lien on all the assets of the Federal Reserve Banks, and on the collateral specifically held against them.

Federal Reserve notes are not redeemable in gold, silver or any other commodity, and receive no backing by anything This has been the case since 1933. The notes have no value for themselves, but for what they will buy. In another sense, because they are legal tender, Federal Reserve notes are “backed” by all the goods and services in the economy.

And here’s what Wikipedia says about the Federal Reserve Note.

Homo sapiens sapiens has not existed for millions of years. It’s more like approximately 200,000 years. There have been obstacles in the way of population growth like ice ages, droughts, other natural disasters and disease. Agriculture wasn’t invented until between 8 and 10,000 years ago, meaning that cultures before then were hunter-gatherers and those cultures simply can’t support large populations. They also can’t support the kind of dedicated artisans that lead to technological innovations. Heck, they don’t even develop alphabets and systems of mathematics because they just don’t need them. It’s a good general rule that if you can’t write things down and perform calculations you’re not going to be making any real breakthroughs in science. You’re not even going to develop the concept. Even after the development of agriculture there were barriers to a continued growth of population. Ever hear of the Black Death? Even lacking a major plague as recently as the middle part of the Nineteenth Century the rate of infant mortality in the United Kingdom, one of the most advanced nations of the time, was over 150 per 1000 births. This doesn’t count stillbirths, just live births. Then there were still other diseases to claim the very young and vulnerable as well as adults once they did get past infancy. When all of this is combined it’s not all that surprising that population did not grow that quickly for a very long time. Consider that the two billion mark was reached in 1930 and that number has tripled in the decades since. What happened? Here’s a clue. Penicillin was re-discovered by Fleming in 1928. It’s called modern medicine. As far as our failure to control overpopulation, there wasn’t any recognition of it as a problem until fairly recently and no real organized attempt to deal with it until well after that. The pill was only invented in the middle of the 20th century and didn’t begin to be readily available until the ’60s. Also, there were actual laws banning all forms of contraception in parts of the world, including the United States. So far as I know, Ron Paul would support the rights of the states to maintain laws like that since the basis on which Griswold v. Connecticut was decided resembles Roe v. Wade and he does not believe in a right to privacy. Also, in the industrialized West most countries have stopped runaway population growth and almost all growth is in poorer, developing countries. Generally as their economies improve and human rights situations improve, population growth slows.

The collapse of civilizations as in Classical Greece and Rome does not exactly do wonders for the continuity of knowledge that helps develop science. Some forms of religion don’t support the advance of human knowledge and the influence of religion throughout history cannot be underestimated. In a way parts of the scientific method were discovered by earlier civilizations but what we currently think of as the modern scientific method wasn’t really developed until the 17th and 18th centuries. That’s when things really took off.

You choose not to know things, Darren. You are comfortable with ignoring science in favor of your religious beliefs and your obvious ignorance. You choose ignorance in preference to knowledge that doesn’t offer simple answers. And yes, lots of Americans make that same choice. Easy answers make people feel good. Even doctors like Ron Paul in large part don’t actually study critical thinking because they aren’t planning on being researchers and medical school is enough of a grind. I would say that it’s not my problem, but it is the country’s problem since the future lies with those capable of true critical thinking and you and those who agree with you aren’t counted in that group.

First of all:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_Note

Secondly, the Federal Reserve DOES “create” money. They do so through daily open market operations with the money center banks.

You made this interesting observation earlier,

“To any others reading this who are capable of reason and learning keep in mind that there is no such thing as a Federal Reserve dollar. Dollars are issued by the United States government and printed by the mint.”

Jim – Please feel free to remove ANY denomination of US currency out of your wallet and read to us what it says on the top front of every bill.

In all capital letters, “FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE”

Care to revise your statement, counselor.

” stupidity, incapable, not bright enough, Stupid is as stupid says, idiots like you, pathetic, simple answer for a simple mind.”

That’s intelligent. Good job. Like I said, you have nothing to offer to the conversation but negativity.

You have never stated that you are still weighing various candidates.
I don’t believe that statement though. For someone who has such strong misguided opinions, I would bet you have formulated an opinion on who you are voting for.

Just curious, on the evolution debate, do more people in this country side with me or you? I know, we are all idiots. Only Jim S and Justin are smart enough to know how we were created.

Please help me with this…and be sure to explain it in simple terms to me so I can understand.

How does the population of the earth work? When I was a kid there was less than 4 billion people on the earth, now there is almost 7 billion. Scientists say that the earth reached 1 billion people in 1804. So in 200 years the earth has grown by almost 6 BILLION people. Yet in the millions of years of existense before then it only made it to one billion?
If you do the math, that makes no sense. We have birth control and abortion now and can not stop the population explotion, but they could for hundreds of thousands of years with out controls?

Why did it take so long to develop meaningful technology? Virtually nothing developed for hundreds of thousands of years and then all of a sudden 5000 years ago people became smart enough to start documenting existence? Interesting curve.

Your stupidity knows no bounds. Who says I’ve made up my mind already on one candidate? Are you actually incapable of understanding that it is entirely possible to still be weighing various candidates?

Do I think that you have not researched Ron Paul’s positions? No, I don’t. You’re not bright enough to evaluate opposing positions on these issues. You’ve proven that over and over again. Stupid is as stupid says, Darren, and I don’t need to have propaganda about Ron Paul supporters so long as idiots like you keep posting to prove how pathetic they are.

Of course creation makes more sense to you. It’s a simple answer for a simple mind and you’ve proven that you have that.

What is your definition of a blind follower?

Are you actually implying that I have not researched Dr. Paul’s positions thoroughly?

Do you think I agree with him on everything?

I know that is the propaganda you propose about Dr. Paul supporters. Yet you refuse to comment about the candidate in your corner. I find that interesting, but normal for cowards such as yourself.

Justin – You will never be able to convince me at all about evolution. We all came from the same cell? Give me a break. Creation makes way more sense. I highly doubt Darwin would even believe in evolution today.

Hold on, my dog wants to tell you something, once he gets off the cell phone with the tree out back. You see I have evolution run amuck at my house…nevermind we’ll have to get back to you my cat took off with the truck.

As for why I write about him when a thread concerning him pops up here and elsewhere, well, somebody reading has to not be a blind follower like Darren and so many others. Maybe they’ll learn something from the facts as opposed to the claims of his true believers.

How does something become a theory? Well, one person purposes a hypothesis from his/her observations and then other scientists go about trying to see if their hypothesis stands up to scrutiny. Darwin made the hypothesis of evolution and the reason it has become such a strong cornerstone of science is that many other scientists have verified its validity in their own work.

In any event, have fun in Africa Darren. I hear it’s lovely this time of year. And while you’re at it, you might want to asks some scientists about the research into the relationship between apes’ 24 chromosomes and our 23.

I’m sorry.

I did not realize you do not have a soul. Too bad.

Evolution…I can not help you there. It’s is not much of a theory. I could go on but you are entitled to your beliefs.

Do you know Dr. Paul’s position on the dreaded Gold Standard?
He would like to introduce a comodity backed currency to compete with the Federal Reserve dollar. Why would this not work? Do you really think the American dollar is the choice of the world now? Please.

No one thinks, Dr. Paul is the second coming. We are proud of him for standing up for liberty. Spin it however you want. Whoever the candidate you are supporting does not. They want to expand government and have me pay for it. Socialism does not work…especially for the poor.

We get that you do not support Dr. Paul. The weird thing is that you blog so much about a candidate you find insignificant. That is kooky.

I have never gone to a Hillary or Giuliani blog.

Sorry, I have to go and catch a plane. I’m visit some of my ape family in Africa who haven’t quite finished the evolution process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf7HYoh9YMM

Why don’t I like Ron Paul? I don’t like the Religious Right and Paul buys into every one of their positions and while he doesn’t support the federal government enforcing them he thinks it’s just fine if the states do. That’s not supporting liberty, it’s just saying that the level of government that gets to limit individual rights should be the states so long as the majority thinks it’s OK to shaft a minority. I’m not impressed.

Ron Paul on evolution:

I think it’s a theory, the theory of evolution and I don’t accept it as a theory.

He doesn’t even know what a theory means in the world of science? I know an M.D. isn’t a research scientist, but it still does not reflect well on him and makes him seem like just one more Republican panderer to the R.R. or a person too ignorant to be trusted with the Presidency, like the others in the Republican field. And if you’re one of the conspiracy theorists who say the video was edited to make RP look bad, here’s the unedited version.

He doesn’t believe in federal environmental regulation, saying “The people of Texas do not need federal regulators determining our air standards.”. How he expects to persuade pollution from neighboring states to stop at the state line has not been explained.

Here’s Ron Paul on the gold standard question. How appallingly ignorant. First, the Federal Reserve does not print money. Does he really not understand the difference between the Fed and the Mint? Secondly, he speaks of not tracking trade numbers with China because after all, we don’t track that number between states, do we? He says it won’t matter once there is a currency backed by gold. Does he really think that even if he could achieve this goal the rest of the world would go along? Welcome to the non-gold backed Euro becoming the currency of choice for international business while the U.S. economy does not improve because he is wrong on this issue.

Paul is being treated as the Second Coming by a lot of people who either don’t understand his positions or are lying about them and acting extremely self-righteous as they do so. The first post in this thread is a perfect example of what’s wrong with Paul and his supporters. There’s a long list of problems and then the claim that Ron Paul has studied economics and understands how to fix them. But Ron Paul hasn’t studied economics. He has simply read the books of and listened to those economists that conform to his pre-existing ideological beliefs, starting with his belief in Ayn Rand’s philosophy. That’s all. This reflects the lack of understanding that he and his followers bring to several issues and the fact that they are so proud of themselves and unaware of their ignorance is a perfectly good reason to pour cold water on them. Don’t like it? Sorry, but remember that the post that you were reacting to was nothing but a recitation of simple facts that you and the other true believers just don’t like.

If he can pass Rudy (I think he can) that’s good for the 4th place. But, he’ll also need to better the 10% from Iowa by a good amount – say, at least 12% of the total vote.

That gives him the ability to say, “We’re gaining ground – up one spot and a couple percent” and continue on while maybe making Rudy and Fred consider dropping out.

Best, would be a third place and 16/17% finish.

1st – John McCain (20% – 25%)
2nd – Mitt Romney (15% – 20%)
3rd – Ron Paul (10% – 15%)
4th – Mike Huckabee (10-% – 15%)
5th – Fred Thompson (5% – 10%)
6th – Rudy Giuliani (5% – 10%)
7th – Duncan Hunter (0% – 5%)