Although, I only quoted the end of David D.’s comments, his previous allegation was at the center of my response.

Sometimes, I rush to post before I proofread. Thanks.

You seem a reasonable individual and I value your candor in the last paragraph.
I concede that mistakes have been made by this administration, as have all the previous ones.
However, the tarring and feathering, the constant besmirching that has gone on for the past 7 years, to make President Bush out to be an evil man, while democrats – in Congress and elsewhere – lied and deceived to promote their own agenda, aided by the MSM has been blatantly overlooked.
I offer that as a reason many believe a mountain of untrue things about President Bush and the majority of republicans are distrustful of democrats and the media.

I agree that the Iranian naval conflict is not connected to Obama’s candidacy in any way. But you referenced conspiracy theories in general, not one specific one. And I stand by my contention – that the reason many people may see (admittedly extreme) conspiracy behind every Presidential action is because the current administration has given them reason to see one, beginning with the closed-door energy policy meetings in 2001. I appreciate your clarifying the intention of your prior comment.

Where did you come up with that red herring?
I dismissed one thing and one alone. The outlandish charge made by David D. that if anything were to go wrong with “Barack Oblique’s Smooth Talk Express” it’s President Bush’s doing. HOW?!
He attempts to correlate a potential President Bush’s response to the Iranian’s provocation to the destruction of Obama, in the likelihood the latter loses. Harebrained, in the least!

This is the exact reason why many people think dems – in general – are kooks. No matter WHAT goes wrong…blame Bush.
But there’s more. Instead of disassociating yourself from that mindset, you criticize me for something I never said and you fabricated. Go figure!

“My statement didn’t say “All” dems indulge in the guilty trip for politial correctness, rather, than whites that happen to be dems are more prone to feel the way Alan described than conservatives.

Incidentally, this thread is about Obama, but I see how you conveniently turned it into a Bush-bashing session.

BenG: you’ll be looking a long time if you’re looking at policy. Other than bucking the teacher’s union and supporting merit pay for teachers, he’s been a pretty predictable policy liberal in his time in office. However, being a senator lets you (sometimes even forces you) to keep behind party lines. Primaries also tend to hold candidates to their bases. If he gets the nom, I’ll be watching closely to see if he starts breaking away from the standard Democratic line. I don’t know how he expects to create unity with a platform that has proven divise time and time again.

ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You are wrong. However, don’t let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories. Just because it’s in your head, doesn’t mean it’s not true. ;)

In the event, his chance for the nomination implodes look no further than Hillary.

Not to forget, EVERYBODY has not fallen for the guy, so maybe you ought to lower your expectation a tad. NH, like IA the whole country do not make.

Hope I’m wrong. But Bush & the GOP will do anything. Anything.

Next time it happens, I’ll wait 10 minutes next time it happens.

Maybe if he pulls that act across the Islamic world, terrorists will become happy, and feel “hope” and “change” and stop attacking us. Or maybe they will want to kill him because they believe he is an apostate Muslim. =P

Paul is the only fiscal conservative and he’s not going to go the distance. I can get the same tax n spend domestic policy from the democrats that I can get from the current crop of republicans, except that since I make less than 250k annually I become the primary beneficiary of the dems’ spending. So for me, foreign policy is the defining issue.

And listening to their stance on that issue leads me to Obama. IF Paul actually had a chance I’d vote for him despite his foreign policy, because his domestic policy is in my opinion the one thing this country needs most.

Or maybe it is the race element. Cynically speaking, whites see Obama as the great guilt healer, as if electing him president would bring a kind of wound closure to our nation. Cynicism aside, he does represent a post-racial-politics America where color is only one aspect of identity rather than the driving force behind who we each are.

When I read his “issues” section of his website I think “very typical liberal.” But when I hear him speak — there’s something powerful. Either he’s one hell of a charlatan or he’s one of those “right men at the right time” we Americans have proven so adept at finding throughout our history.