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	<title>Comments on: Is The Ron Paul Movement Over?</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jay_C</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-389703</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2nd in Nevada, (1st 2nd or 3rd in Louisiana depending on what the ..ahem..."results" that state "decides" to release...if at all...)  If Giuliani is out after Florida that leaves only 4 Candidates, and lets not forget Huckabee's having money issues.  So is the Ron Paul revolution over?  Big no on that.  Even if he makes it to be one of the top 3 candidates, how can anyone say he was a flash in the pan, or a anomaly.  Good for him!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2nd in Nevada, (1st 2nd or 3rd in Louisiana depending on what the ..ahem&#8230;&#8221;results&#8221; that state &#8220;decides&#8221; to release&#8230;if at all&#8230;)  If Giuliani is out after Florida that leaves only 4 Candidates, and lets not forget Huckabee&#8217;s having money issues.  So is the Ron Paul revolution over?  Big no on that.  Even if he makes it to be one of the top 3 candidates, how can anyone say he was a flash in the pan, or a anomaly.  Good for him!!</p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-389101</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we're only "reasonable" if we've given up on the campaign, eh?  Oh well,  I guess I just can't be reasoned with then.  I'll worry about the future of the movement when the election results are announced.  Until then, I'll keep believing that in America, anything can happen...

...and it has.  American history is full of long shot candidates who found their way in against all odds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we&#8217;re only &#8220;reasonable&#8221; if we&#8217;ve given up on the campaign, eh?  Oh well,  I guess I just can&#8217;t be reasoned with then.  I&#8217;ll worry about the future of the movement when the election results are announced.  Until then, I&#8217;ll keep believing that in America, anything can happen&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;and it has.  American history is full of long shot candidates who found their way in against all odds.</p>
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		<title>By: George Dance</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388959</link>
		<dc:creator>George Dance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canada's PM Brian Mulroney isn't a great role model for libertarians or conservatives, but he did know politics. One piece of advice he'd give in a situation like this is, "You dance with the lady that brung ya."

The RevolUTION united to support the Ron Paul 2008 campaign. IMO, it should continue to support the Ron Paul 2008 campaign until that campaign is over. After that, I hope, it will continue and turn its attention to capturing some seats in Congress in 2010. 2012 will be early enough to start thinking about another presidential candidate with a newsletter-free (and blog-free) past. There'll have to be one then; at 72, this is Dr. Paul's last hurrah -- and I'm all for letting him take his best shot at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canada&#8217;s PM Brian Mulroney isn&#8217;t a great role model for libertarians or conservatives, but he did know politics. One piece of advice he&#8217;d give in a situation like this is, &#8220;You dance with the lady that brung ya.&#8221;</p>
<p>The RevolUTION united to support the Ron Paul 2008 campaign. IMO, it should continue to support the Ron Paul 2008 campaign until that campaign is over. After that, I hope, it will continue and turn its attention to capturing some seats in Congress in 2010. 2012 will be early enough to start thinking about another presidential candidate with a newsletter-free (and blog-free) past. There&#8217;ll have to be one then; at 72, this is Dr. Paul&#8217;s last hurrah &#8212; and I&#8217;m all for letting him take his best shot at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388942</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is no authoritarian, at the state level or anywhere.  Look up "Ron Paul's freedom principles" on his Congressional website -- they are 100% libertarian.  He IS pro-life, because he thinks the unborn baby is a separate human life, endowed by God with the rights to life and liberty, just as the mother is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul is no authoritarian, at the state level or anywhere.  Look up &#8220;Ron Paul&#8217;s freedom principles&#8221; on his Congressional website &#8212; they are 100% libertarian.  He IS pro-life, because he thinks the unborn baby is a separate human life, endowed by God with the rights to life and liberty, just as the mother is.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388941</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>54,000 votes in the Michigan primary is a pretty strong sign that the Revolution is far from over.  In precincts with precinct captains, turnout was double that of other precincts -- apply that math nationwide, and 6-10% could turn into 12-20%, which would have a big impact on his perceived viability, as could a strong showing in Nevada this Saturday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>54,000 votes in the Michigan primary is a pretty strong sign that the Revolution is far from over.  In precincts with precinct captains, turnout was double that of other precincts &#8212; apply that math nationwide, and 6-10% could turn into 12-20%, which would have a big impact on his perceived viability, as could a strong showing in Nevada this Saturday.</p>
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		<title>By: TJF</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388934</link>
		<dc:creator>TJF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there really a media blackout or is there something the Ron Paul campiagn could be doing differently to get more coverage?

I would love to see some articles in a MSM publication analyzing the movement that surrounds Ron Paul.  There is a big awakening going on that is being ignored.  Thimgs like the blimp get little to no notice, imagine if the blimp was emblazoned with google Hillary - it would get hours of coverage each day on Fox and CNN, with hourly updates of it's latest location.

Ron Paul may not be the perfect candidate, but he is the best one we have running by far.  It is way too early in the whole primary process to talk of where to go from here or talk about defeat.  

Besides that the pillars of power in this country are directly threatened by Ron Paul the other factor that makes it hard for the campaign to gain traction is that a vast majority do not understand where  money comes from and how inflation is a hidden tax.  Real change is uncomfortable and takes time for people to grasp.  

What we need is for Ron Paul supporters to get off the internet for a few hours and do some real work for the campaign getting out the vote and introducing our neighbors to Ron Paul and his ideas.  Like many of you I think I am right and Ron Paul is the way to go, but I respect dissenting opinions as long as they are backed up by reasoning and thought and not imagined support based on lack of thought and misinformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there really a media blackout or is there something the Ron Paul campiagn could be doing differently to get more coverage?</p>
<p>I would love to see some articles in a MSM publication analyzing the movement that surrounds Ron Paul.  There is a big awakening going on that is being ignored.  Thimgs like the blimp get little to no notice, imagine if the blimp was emblazoned with google Hillary - it would get hours of coverage each day on Fox and CNN, with hourly updates of it&#8217;s latest location.</p>
<p>Ron Paul may not be the perfect candidate, but he is the best one we have running by far.  It is way too early in the whole primary process to talk of where to go from here or talk about defeat.  </p>
<p>Besides that the pillars of power in this country are directly threatened by Ron Paul the other factor that makes it hard for the campaign to gain traction is that a vast majority do not understand where  money comes from and how inflation is a hidden tax.  Real change is uncomfortable and takes time for people to grasp.  </p>
<p>What we need is for Ron Paul supporters to get off the internet for a few hours and do some real work for the campaign getting out the vote and introducing our neighbors to Ron Paul and his ideas.  Like many of you I think I am right and Ron Paul is the way to go, but I respect dissenting opinions as long as they are backed up by reasoning and thought and not imagined support based on lack of thought and misinformation.</p>
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		<title>By: totustuusmaria</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388928</link>
		<dc:creator>totustuusmaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You asked the wrong question.  "Where do we go from here?"  Well, Ron Paul's still running, we still have a campaign to fight, we still have people to influence and thoughts to propound.  That's where we go.  One step at a time.  When Ron Paul withdraws, then it'll be time for your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You asked the wrong question.  &#8220;Where do we go from here?&#8221;  Well, Ron Paul&#8217;s still running, we still have a campaign to fight, we still have people to influence and thoughts to propound.  That&#8217;s where we go.  One step at a time.  When Ron Paul withdraws, then it&#8217;ll be time for your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388883</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you kidding me?!
The Ron Paul revolution is just beginning.  And whether he becomes our next President or not, the freedom movement is about America waking up... 

Turn off your TV and do your own research, use the computer at your local library if you don't have one, because you will be in the dark if you depend on mainstream media for truthful information.  Do it for your children and your country.

I've never been interested in politics until now. And I'm still not interested in typical, corporate-lobbyist owned politicians.  But the Constitutional rights and liberties that are mine, the way our forefathers fought to protect them, all the inspiring individuals who sacrificed so I could experience this freedom today....
I can get excited about that.  And I'm not about to give them up because the gov't expects us to sit down and be quiet while those rights are stripped from us.

Ron Paul cured my apathy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you kidding me?!<br />
The Ron Paul revolution is just beginning.  And whether he becomes our next President or not, the freedom movement is about America waking up&#8230; </p>
<p>Turn off your TV and do your own research, use the computer at your local library if you don&#8217;t have one, because you will be in the dark if you depend on mainstream media for truthful information.  Do it for your children and your country.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been interested in politics until now. And I&#8217;m still not interested in typical, corporate-lobbyist owned politicians.  But the Constitutional rights and liberties that are mine, the way our forefathers fought to protect them, all the inspiring individuals who sacrificed so I could experience this freedom today&#8230;.<br />
I can get excited about that.  And I&#8217;m not about to give them up because the gov&#8217;t expects us to sit down and be quiet while those rights are stripped from us.</p>
<p>Ron Paul cured my apathy!</p>
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		<title>By: dfw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388860</link>
		<dc:creator>dfw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it is not over.  Who says it is over?  Wake up sheeple.  This movement is not going to stop.  Ron Paul started something and it does not end with him becoming or not becoming president.  People are becoming inspired and expect for many years to be discussing these revolutionary ideas, while the economy is getting worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it is not over.  Who says it is over?  Wake up sheeple.  This movement is not going to stop.  Ron Paul started something and it does not end with him becoming or not becoming president.  People are becoming inspired and expect for many years to be discussing these revolutionary ideas, while the economy is getting worse.</p>
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		<title>By: d. stanfield</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388859</link>
		<dc:creator>d. stanfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic that we could "never" expect Dr. Paul in the White House because of some unsubstantiated newsletters, yet we could allow

any of those four candidates who made it on the Judicial Watch's list of 10 most corrupt politicians:

Hillary Clinton
Obama
Rudy
Mike Huckabee

Come on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that we could &#8220;never&#8221; expect Dr. Paul in the White House because of some unsubstantiated newsletters, yet we could allow</p>
<p>any of those four candidates who made it on the Judicial Watch&#8217;s list of 10 most corrupt politicians:</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton<br />
Obama<br />
Rudy<br />
Mike Huckabee</p>
<p>Come on!</p>
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		<title>By: Leonard</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388847</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what I find great, is that I click on these 'junk' stories that come in my news pile... only to read all the positive responses... i think it 'powers-up' everyone of us RP supporters.... so take that!!!! enjoy helping the resistance!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what I find great, is that I click on these &#8216;junk&#8217; stories that come in my news pile&#8230; only to read all the positive responses&#8230; i think it &#8216;powers-up&#8217; everyone of us RP supporters&#8230;. so take that!!!! enjoy helping the resistance!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rap</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388839</link>
		<dc:creator>Rap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Hillary write those newsletters. Is this proof?:

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/16/hillary.book.response.02/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Hillary write those newsletters. Is this proof?:</p>
<p><a href="http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/16/hillary.book.response.02/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/07/16/hillary.book.response.02/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Harmon</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388836</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Harmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to author:  how can a movement that is based on individual liberty and freedom be over?  One does not put these ideas back into a box.   The fact that the public has been getting scammed for years is only recently getting some exposure with Paul's candidacy.  The ideas spread, and people spread them, and we move on.  Whether Ron Paul is the benefactor of the movement remains to be seen. But, what kind of other "movement" is out there?  A Romney movement?  A Giuliani movement?  A Clinton movement?  What grand philosophy do these candidates espouse?  About all they offer is more statist control, gimmes, handouts, and protectionism.  That works well when there is something to give and to protect.  That illusion is fading.  And yes, there is constant reinforcement from the TV box and the pollster empire about who will win.  Soon, these nuisances will be diminished in importance or gone altogether.  Soon, we will be looking for something larger than a phony promise or a campaign smile.  When?  Who knows?  But the movement is not over.  Actually, it will grow.  History tells us this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to author:  how can a movement that is based on individual liberty and freedom be over?  One does not put these ideas back into a box.   The fact that the public has been getting scammed for years is only recently getting some exposure with Paul&#8217;s candidacy.  The ideas spread, and people spread them, and we move on.  Whether Ron Paul is the benefactor of the movement remains to be seen. But, what kind of other &#8220;movement&#8221; is out there?  A Romney movement?  A Giuliani movement?  A Clinton movement?  What grand philosophy do these candidates espouse?  About all they offer is more statist control, gimmes, handouts, and protectionism.  That works well when there is something to give and to protect.  That illusion is fading.  And yes, there is constant reinforcement from the TV box and the pollster empire about who will win.  Soon, these nuisances will be diminished in importance or gone altogether.  Soon, we will be looking for something larger than a phony promise or a campaign smile.  When?  Who knows?  But the movement is not over.  Actually, it will grow.  History tells us this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388829</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 04:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this post is fair. I gave money to Paul. I think the damaging thing in my mind is that he made money on the things. Putting that issue aside and looking at the future.

I don't see much hope for it this time around. Paul could control this, do the politically correct thing and perhaps say we talked about that issue months ago and stonewall. In such a fragmented Republican field I wouldn't give him 0 chance but it was a long one.

I just hope that this issue, which I don't believe has much to do with the man himself or his stances in congress over 20 years, will overshadow what is right about him.

In my mind what is right is the foreign policy, and individual rights stuff. I'm not a pure Austrian economist. He is right though that we have to deal with the entitlement system. I want people to actually talk about these things and I am tired of both sides being married either to the entitlement system or the military-industrial complex. Let me say that again: sick. I'm tired of being taxed to kill people, I'm tired of being taxed to pay for inefficient and bad government services.

I like that Paul is a total outsider when it comes to the foreign policy. 

Will there be another Paul? It will be hard. You see as the wacko point out, they gave him the push to get enough attention be noticed, by the people who aren't brain dead or brain washed.

I think things are probably over, but I think everyone took notice of the numbers of people who gave him money, and that there just aren't that many conspiracy folks out there. 

Sorry there are a lot of us who want real changes not the imaginary ones the democrats talk about, which to me sound like the same old boring rhetorical changes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post is fair. I gave money to Paul. I think the damaging thing in my mind is that he made money on the things. Putting that issue aside and looking at the future.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see much hope for it this time around. Paul could control this, do the politically correct thing and perhaps say we talked about that issue months ago and stonewall. In such a fragmented Republican field I wouldn&#8217;t give him 0 chance but it was a long one.</p>
<p>I just hope that this issue, which I don&#8217;t believe has much to do with the man himself or his stances in congress over 20 years, will overshadow what is right about him.</p>
<p>In my mind what is right is the foreign policy, and individual rights stuff. I&#8217;m not a pure Austrian economist. He is right though that we have to deal with the entitlement system. I want people to actually talk about these things and I am tired of both sides being married either to the entitlement system or the military-industrial complex. Let me say that again: sick. I&#8217;m tired of being taxed to kill people, I&#8217;m tired of being taxed to pay for inefficient and bad government services.</p>
<p>I like that Paul is a total outsider when it comes to the foreign policy. </p>
<p>Will there be another Paul? It will be hard. You see as the wacko point out, they gave him the push to get enough attention be noticed, by the people who aren&#8217;t brain dead or brain washed.</p>
<p>I think things are probably over, but I think everyone took notice of the numbers of people who gave him money, and that there just aren&#8217;t that many conspiracy folks out there. </p>
<p>Sorry there are a lot of us who want real changes not the imaginary ones the democrats talk about, which to me sound like the same old boring rhetorical changes.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388799</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 02:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the NAACP backs Paul, I'd say he still has a chance to win.  If this can get some press coverage.

http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/01/14/naacp-president-defends-ron-paul-against-recent-smear-attempts/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the NAACP backs Paul, I&#8217;d say he still has a chance to win.  If this can get some press coverage.</p>
<p><a href="http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/01/14/naacp-president-defends-ron-paul-against-recent-smear-attempts/" rel="nofollow">http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/01/14/naacp-president-defends-ron-paul-against-recent-smear-attempts/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for one thing Paul supporters can't read. Here's the &lt;a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michigan results page from the NYT&lt;/a&gt;. Yep, there's Ron Paul. After reading yet again the rants and conspiracy theories I would like to suggest that the appropriate name for Ron Paul supporters should be the Straight Jacket Brigades. The more I read from them the less impressed I am and the less convinced of their sanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for one thing Paul supporters can&#8217;t read. Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html" rel="nofollow">Michigan results page from the NYT</a>. Yep, there&#8217;s Ron Paul. After reading yet again the rants and conspiracy theories I would like to suggest that the appropriate name for Ron Paul supporters should be the Straight Jacket Brigades. The more I read from them the less impressed I am and the less convinced of their sanity.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388756</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's about your Rights and Freedoms Jim S. stated

"So if a Ron Paul paradise were to come about all you have to do in order to have basic rights is to uproot yourself and move away from a place you used to be happy in? All you have to do is hope that you can find a state that won’t follow the path the one you currently live in followed in restricting individual rights and hope you can find work there? All you need to do is come up with the money to afford that? Justin, are you aware of the costs of moving nowadays?"

A Ron Paul paradise?  You criticize while making the argument to support Ron Paul.  This is about the Constitution.  Remember the document providing you the rights and freedoms.  The document stating ONLY Gold and Silver to be used as legal tender.  Why do you think it costs so much to move?  Ignore some of it and all is ignored.  
We supporters realize this you will soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about your Rights and Freedoms Jim S. stated</p>
<p>&#8220;So if a Ron Paul paradise were to come about all you have to do in order to have basic rights is to uproot yourself and move away from a place you used to be happy in? All you have to do is hope that you can find a state that won’t follow the path the one you currently live in followed in restricting individual rights and hope you can find work there? All you need to do is come up with the money to afford that? Justin, are you aware of the costs of moving nowadays?&#8221;</p>
<p>A Ron Paul paradise?  You criticize while making the argument to support Ron Paul.  This is about the Constitution.  Remember the document providing you the rights and freedoms.  The document stating ONLY Gold and Silver to be used as legal tender.  Why do you think it costs so much to move?  Ignore some of it and all is ignored.<br />
We supporters realize this you will soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert b</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388754</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with Ron Paul is that his idea if elected would move up side down every one successful in the current system.  Look how many people got rich from bankers to contactors on the last housing buble.  So why whould they want a change?  Ofcourse they did not study austrian econnomy, insted, they got educated how to make monay and get rich in our monetary system. Did you read Rich Dad Poor Dad or the books by Donald Trump? or the great advertising how to work 4h a day and get rich etc etc, All teaches how to make most of the paper money and speculations with out any kwnoladge.

Ron Paul's idea would prevent such techniques and allow to get rich only by hard working, by beeing bright and educated.  If you are lazy you have null</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Ron Paul is that his idea if elected would move up side down every one successful in the current system.  Look how many people got rich from bankers to contactors on the last housing buble.  So why whould they want a change?  Ofcourse they did not study austrian econnomy, insted, they got educated how to make monay and get rich in our monetary system. Did you read Rich Dad Poor Dad or the books by Donald Trump? or the great advertising how to work 4h a day and get rich etc etc, All teaches how to make most of the paper money and speculations with out any kwnoladge.</p>
<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s idea would prevent such techniques and allow to get rich only by hard working, by beeing bright and educated.  If you are lazy you have null</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388752</link>
		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does everyone strive to prove Ron Paul cant win? They must be dieing for someone to come out and say he cant. Well folks im here to say there is no proof that he can or cant win but it seems people from other sides are more worried about Ron Paul than their own candidate which proves they are attacking the Ron Paul movement and it's threat on their party!!! If Ron Paul has no chance why waste your time trying to kill it? After all he is just a nobody beating the "Top Tier" nobody's. Lets face it folks Ron Paul is in this race til the end and he may just end it by stepping into the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does everyone strive to prove Ron Paul cant win? They must be dieing for someone to come out and say he cant. Well folks im here to say there is no proof that he can or cant win but it seems people from other sides are more worried about Ron Paul than their own candidate which proves they are attacking the Ron Paul movement and it&#8217;s threat on their party!!! If Ron Paul has no chance why waste your time trying to kill it? After all he is just a nobody beating the &#8220;Top Tier&#8221; nobody&#8217;s. Lets face it folks Ron Paul is in this race til the end and he may just end it by stepping into the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: blakmira</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388751</link>
		<dc:creator>blakmira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul is a real threat to a lot of people -- but not because of anything wrong he's done in the past or will do in the future.

Even as he knocks former "front-runner" Guiliani and former "contender" Thompson to the back of the line in the 3rd primary, he is still blatantly being ignored by the media except for 20 year old smear tactics.

How could the Ron Paul Movement be "over" if it never existed? According to what the news stations and mainstream newspapers would have you believe, he never even existed; but mainly they (and people with an agenda, like you) just want him to go away quietly. You wish.

Your attempts to silence and tarnish Ron Paul only make us grow stronger and more willful. We will prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul is a real threat to a lot of people &#8212; but not because of anything wrong he&#8217;s done in the past or will do in the future.</p>
<p>Even as he knocks former &#8220;front-runner&#8221; Guiliani and former &#8220;contender&#8221; Thompson to the back of the line in the 3rd primary, he is still blatantly being ignored by the media except for 20 year old smear tactics.</p>
<p>How could the Ron Paul Movement be &#8220;over&#8221; if it never existed? According to what the news stations and mainstream newspapers would have you believe, he never even existed; but mainly they (and people with an agenda, like you) just want him to go away quietly. You wish.</p>
<p>Your attempts to silence and tarnish Ron Paul only make us grow stronger and more willful. We will prevail.</p>
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		<title>By: Li</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388749</link>
		<dc:creator>Li</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it ironic that Paul is being declared dead even as he finishes at the highest place yet in any primary--fourth.  Don't jump on bandwagon's yet, there is still a message to get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it ironic that Paul is being declared dead even as he finishes at the highest place yet in any primary&#8211;fourth.  Don&#8217;t jump on bandwagon&#8217;s yet, there is still a message to get out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gemmy Spa</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388747</link>
		<dc:creator>Gemmy Spa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right Darel, the NYT does not even have him listed on the MI results page, even though it lists Giuliani and Thompson, both of whom he defeated. wtf?????
And it's amazing how the ( admitedly foul ) statements of 3 or 4 newsletters has turned into "piles of racist newspapers from the 80s and 90s." Seems like Stalinism to me. "Ron Paul was guilty of thoughtcrime in 1984--shoot the mad dog!" Too bad the other candidates are not studied as much. Gem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Darel, the NYT does not even have him listed on the MI results page, even though it lists Giuliani and Thompson, both of whom he defeated. wtf?????<br />
And it&#8217;s amazing how the ( admitedly foul ) statements of 3 or 4 newsletters has turned into &#8220;piles of racist newspapers from the 80s and 90s.&#8221; Seems like Stalinism to me. &#8220;Ron Paul was guilty of thoughtcrime in 1984&#8211;shoot the mad dog!&#8221; Too bad the other candidates are not studied as much. Gem</p>
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		<title>By: temjrpgh</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388745</link>
		<dc:creator>temjrpgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm in this for the long haul and I'm looking forward to the MLK money bomb.   The problems of this nation are coming to the forefront at just the right time for the economically conservative message of Ron Paul to resonate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in this for the long haul and I&#8217;m looking forward to the MLK money bomb.   The problems of this nation are coming to the forefront at just the right time for the economically conservative message of Ron Paul to resonate.</p>
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		<title>By: Darel99</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388742</link>
		<dc:creator>Darel99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Ron Paul 100% but I tell you what troubles me the most.  Today I have seen Fred Thompson and Rudy on national TV and Paul has beat them both.  Paul is now facing a virtural media black out while those he beats if anything are getting more attention.  How is this possible?  The MSM has ever been fair to Dr. Paul but they don't even try to offer the illusion that they are now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Ron Paul 100% but I tell you what troubles me the most.  Today I have seen Fred Thompson and Rudy on national TV and Paul has beat them both.  Paul is now facing a virtural media black out while those he beats if anything are getting more attention.  How is this possible?  The MSM has ever been fair to Dr. Paul but they don&#8217;t even try to offer the illusion that they are now.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388741</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Ron Paul supporter thinks things are just getting started. A strong primary showing will lead to a viable Independent run. He's got the name recognition, money, grass roots support and best message. Mix that with a collapsing economy/dollar and things get very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Ron Paul supporter thinks things are just getting started. A strong primary showing will lead to a viable Independent run. He&#8217;s got the name recognition, money, grass roots support and best message. Mix that with a collapsing economy/dollar and things get very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388740</link>
		<dc:creator>Beau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Again, I do think Ron Paul is over, and that’s mostly due to his judgement."
Out of all the other candidates Paul has the best record _for_ his judgement. 

"You can’t credibly push a guy for President who has allowed stuff like the newsletter scandal to happen. You just can’t."
This is like saying making a mistake makes you ineligible to be a President.

"But the movement has only just begun, and I think in the years to come it will find more credible voices to push the freedom message."
Are you implying that Ron Paul is not credible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Again, I do think Ron Paul is over, and that’s mostly due to his judgement.&#8221;<br />
Out of all the other candidates Paul has the best record _for_ his judgement. </p>
<p>&#8220;You can’t credibly push a guy for President who has allowed stuff like the newsletter scandal to happen. You just can’t.&#8221;<br />
This is like saying making a mistake makes you ineligible to be a President.</p>
<p>&#8220;But the movement has only just begun, and I think in the years to come it will find more credible voices to push the freedom message.&#8221;<br />
Are you implying that Ron Paul is not credible?</p>
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		<title>By: RaferJanders</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388739</link>
		<dc:creator>RaferJanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone, Anyone, Buellar,Buellar... that is the nail on the head Abe, bring anything and everything, You can ask my three daughters, "What Amendment to the Constitution gives women the right to vote, and what year was it ratified?" there ages 4,7,12 they can answer the Qestions, Can any of the ladies reading this care to give it a go? Ron Paul 08 for freedom for everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone, Anyone, Buellar,Buellar&#8230; that is the nail on the head Abe, bring anything and everything, You can ask my three daughters, &#8220;What Amendment to the Constitution gives women the right to vote, and what year was it ratified?&#8221; there ages 4,7,12 they can answer the Qestions, Can any of the ladies reading this care to give it a go? Ron Paul 08 for freedom for everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Ericson</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388738</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Ericson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"where do you go from here? And please be realistic."

I've never given a crap about politics, I live in montana and the vast percentage of this population knows that we don't matter on the federal level.

I will most likely, for the rest of my life, believe that the ideals of Ron Paul are the ideas that america should still be based on.

On the newsletters even if he put his seal on it knowing what was written (don't believe he did but that's a belief), well people have the right to write whatever they damn well please and have the right to believe however they do. As long as those beliefs don't inflict others with harm I don't care.

I'm almost 30 years old have never cared about any politician alive in my lifetime other then distaste. I've said many times since the age of 12 that I would never vote for a president as they were all #$%^, I also stated that I doubted there would ever be a candidate in my lifetime I'd vote for.

I now have to recant that prediction.

I didn't even know that there was a possibility of a politician like Ron Paul.

The "newsletters" as a smear campaign is the most useless of any I've ever heard of.

So to answer the question, I go till the end. Call me "crazy" "loon" "kook" "racist" (I dare you to call me that to my face) or whatever you'd like, your allowed to........ We were freed by a war "by the people for the people" I consider myself to be fighting a war to keep my freedoms, and all in such an easy thing as believing in Ron Paul's belief in the Constitution.

(why is it that the only press he seems to get is belittling press unless its press provided by the people)?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;where do you go from here? And please be realistic.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never given a crap about politics, I live in montana and the vast percentage of this population knows that we don&#8217;t matter on the federal level.</p>
<p>I will most likely, for the rest of my life, believe that the ideals of Ron Paul are the ideas that america should still be based on.</p>
<p>On the newsletters even if he put his seal on it knowing what was written (don&#8217;t believe he did but that&#8217;s a belief), well people have the right to write whatever they damn well please and have the right to believe however they do. As long as those beliefs don&#8217;t inflict others with harm I don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost 30 years old have never cared about any politician alive in my lifetime other then distaste. I&#8217;ve said many times since the age of 12 that I would never vote for a president as they were all #$%^, I also stated that I doubted there would ever be a candidate in my lifetime I&#8217;d vote for.</p>
<p>I now have to recant that prediction.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even know that there was a possibility of a politician like Ron Paul.</p>
<p>The &#8220;newsletters&#8221; as a smear campaign is the most useless of any I&#8217;ve ever heard of.</p>
<p>So to answer the question, I go till the end. Call me &#8220;crazy&#8221; &#8220;loon&#8221; &#8220;kook&#8221; &#8220;racist&#8221; (I dare you to call me that to my face) or whatever you&#8217;d like, your allowed to&#8230;&#8230;.. We were freed by a war &#8220;by the people for the people&#8221; I consider myself to be fighting a war to keep my freedoms, and all in such an easy thing as believing in Ron Paul&#8217;s belief in the Constitution.</p>
<p>(why is it that the only press he seems to get is belittling press unless its press provided by the people)?????</p>
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		<title>By: DF Robichaux</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388737</link>
		<dc:creator>DF Robichaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell have nothing to apologize for. Nothing but smear campaign timed to try to ditch a great candidate during a crucial time.
From the Paul newsletter excerpts that I have read, many were (offcolor) but not racist in comparison to what many in the Republican party expouse against Arabs and others of middle eastern descent. Listening to Tancredo, 911 Guiliani, Bomb-Bomb McCain or Go to Little Green Footballs, Hotair and many other sites and you get the impression that they are ready to exterminate all of brownies with the towels on their head.
Pot calling the kettle black if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell have nothing to apologize for. Nothing but smear campaign timed to try to ditch a great candidate during a crucial time.<br />
From the Paul newsletter excerpts that I have read, many were (offcolor) but not racist in comparison to what many in the Republican party expouse against Arabs and others of middle eastern descent. Listening to Tancredo, 911 Guiliani, Bomb-Bomb McCain or Go to Little Green Footballs, Hotair and many other sites and you get the impression that they are ready to exterminate all of brownies with the towels on their head.<br />
Pot calling the kettle black if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388735</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, it hurts.  Sure, it's disappointing.  We're not dumb.  We can see how much it's hurting the campaign.  But, what alternative do we have?  Pick one from the debt, torture and permanent war crowd?  A drowning man will grab onto anything that will keep him afloat, for good or ill.  That's just America, circa 2008, friends.  Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, it hurts.  Sure, it&#8217;s disappointing.  We&#8217;re not dumb.  We can see how much it&#8217;s hurting the campaign.  But, what alternative do we have?  Pick one from the debt, torture and permanent war crowd?  A drowning man will grab onto anything that will keep him afloat, for good or ill.  That&#8217;s just America, circa 2008, friends.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388734</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many black babies has Ron Paul brought into this world ? I know this, as much as anyone tries to cover up the truth the truth eventually cuts through everything. People are not voting for Ron Paul because they agree with him on every level. They vote for him because he exposes our biggest enemy and
he does it with the truth. He doesn't attack other candidates, he attacks issues.
Issues that are near and dear to big, deceitful government who has been bought by corporations and congressional lobbyists.
Ron Paul's only motive is to bring back the Ideals of our founding fathers
who wrote them down, Mr. Paul is the only candidate that apparently knows how to read !!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many black babies has Ron Paul brought into this world ? I know this, as much as anyone tries to cover up the truth the truth eventually cuts through everything. People are not voting for Ron Paul because they agree with him on every level. They vote for him because he exposes our biggest enemy and<br />
he does it with the truth. He doesn&#8217;t attack other candidates, he attacks issues.<br />
Issues that are near and dear to big, deceitful government who has been bought by corporations and congressional lobbyists.<br />
Ron Paul&#8217;s only motive is to bring back the Ideals of our founding fathers<br />
who wrote them down, Mr. Paul is the only candidate that apparently knows how to read !!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388733</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Justin,

I really wish most of these people would have actually answered the question you posed. I myself am hoping that some of the issue awareness and energy generated can be shifted behind similar Congressional Representative candidates for the November elections and beyond. I think we really need more representation (a wing) in Congress made of people like Ron, and I think people should pay more attention to Congress rather than the Oval office. After all, both are supposed to be one third.

That being said, I do think the "newsletter" crap was way blown out of proportion, just as I believe the idea of Ron's support was crazies. I've been in 3rd Party circles for over fifteen years and honestly, Ron has the most sane and respectable bunch I've ever encountered. There's always one or two, but if you repeat something long enough it becomes the truth. People will squint and look at a crowd of a hundred and see the one guy and say "yep, there he is, that proves it!" 
And one thing I can say for the Paul campaign, however flawed, is that they refused to give free press to the tiny, obscure people and organizations involved in the 'scandal' by NEVER SPEAKING THEIR NAMES! How many people, thanks to the MSM, now know the name Stormfront? This pathetically small and insignificant trailer trash operation received more free press than they could ever hope for from the main stream media, but never from Paul. He was right to dismiss them, they're nobodies who don't deserve to be validated. Just ask the ADL what their real numbers are. There's more people in the Flat Earth Society! No joke, seriously, look it up.
What irks me a little more is how quickly everyone forgot that Ron attended the Travis Smiley Black Issues debate on PBS while the 'top tier' all snubbed it with transparent excuses that amount to a load of bull. 

And...whoever wrote this is not paying attention:
 "Paul’s “states’ rights” focus is anathema to any reasonable conception of individual liberty anyway."

So medical marijuana, same sex marriage and right to die legislation are all right wing causes that are intruding on individual liberty? All this is being enacted by State Legislatures and is actively under fire by the Federal Government. Nice try Trotsky, but I've had enough Central Planning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Justin,</p>
<p>I really wish most of these people would have actually answered the question you posed. I myself am hoping that some of the issue awareness and energy generated can be shifted behind similar Congressional Representative candidates for the November elections and beyond. I think we really need more representation (a wing) in Congress made of people like Ron, and I think people should pay more attention to Congress rather than the Oval office. After all, both are supposed to be one third.</p>
<p>That being said, I do think the &#8220;newsletter&#8221; crap was way blown out of proportion, just as I believe the idea of Ron&#8217;s support was crazies. I&#8217;ve been in 3rd Party circles for over fifteen years and honestly, Ron has the most sane and respectable bunch I&#8217;ve ever encountered. There&#8217;s always one or two, but if you repeat something long enough it becomes the truth. People will squint and look at a crowd of a hundred and see the one guy and say &#8220;yep, there he is, that proves it!&#8221;<br />
And one thing I can say for the Paul campaign, however flawed, is that they refused to give free press to the tiny, obscure people and organizations involved in the &#8217;scandal&#8217; by NEVER SPEAKING THEIR NAMES! How many people, thanks to the MSM, now know the name Stormfront? This pathetically small and insignificant trailer trash operation received more free press than they could ever hope for from the main stream media, but never from Paul. He was right to dismiss them, they&#8217;re nobodies who don&#8217;t deserve to be validated. Just ask the ADL what their real numbers are. There&#8217;s more people in the Flat Earth Society! No joke, seriously, look it up.<br />
What irks me a little more is how quickly everyone forgot that Ron attended the Travis Smiley Black Issues debate on PBS while the &#8216;top tier&#8217; all snubbed it with transparent excuses that amount to a load of bull. </p>
<p>And&#8230;whoever wrote this is not paying attention:<br />
 &#8220;Paul’s “states’ rights” focus is anathema to any reasonable conception of individual liberty anyway.&#8221;</p>
<p>So medical marijuana, same sex marriage and right to die legislation are all right wing causes that are intruding on individual liberty? All this is being enacted by State Legislatures and is actively under fire by the Federal Government. Nice try Trotsky, but I&#8217;ve had enough Central Planning.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sudweeks</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388730</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sudweeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where do we go from here? Onward! If Paul keeps up this string of losses, then he's going to lose the presidency; but you don't know what's going to happen and neither do we. What we do know is that we've already won a lot more than we could ever possibly lose. The congressional candidates are beginning to come forward. We're going to support them too! We're going to start teaching our children and our neighbors about how we the people are at the top in the chain of command—that we created the government in order to serve us—and that the Constitution puts limits on government so the servant doesn't turn around and afflict its master.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where do we go from here? Onward! If Paul keeps up this string of losses, then he&#8217;s going to lose the presidency; but you don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen and neither do we. What we do know is that we&#8217;ve already won a lot more than we could ever possibly lose. The congressional candidates are beginning to come forward. We&#8217;re going to support them too! We&#8217;re going to start teaching our children and our neighbors about how we the people are at the top in the chain of command—that we created the government in order to serve us—and that the Constitution puts limits on government so the servant doesn&#8217;t turn around and afflict its master.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388728</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin,
re: where do you go from here?

Paul will not win the republican nomination, of course we know that.  BUT I think it is important for Paul to campaign and push for votes through Feb 5th - here's why:
His message is continuing to gain recognition; it cannot be denied that many people still do not know who RP is, and that lack of name recognition certainly doesn't help his campaign/message.
Paul has, arguably, the most money to spend.  He will, more than likely, continue to out raise the "other guys", allowing him to have a presence in every state in Super Tuesday.  As covered by CNN last night, and as several bloggers have pointed out, McCain, Guiliani, Huckabee, and even Romney don't have the money to advertise and run a real campaign in every primary for Feb 5th.
This gives Paul a chance to out spend everyone else and gain more national exposure. (Sidebar: anyone else find it interesting that the cut spending, Dr. No candidate is the one spending more than anyone else in his party?)
Thats where we go from here... Continuing to spread the common sense small L philosophy until Feb 5th.  If Paul would endorse a young, popular in his district congressman as his predecessor, it would make life much easier for the Paulites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin,<br />
re: where do you go from here?</p>
<p>Paul will not win the republican nomination, of course we know that.  BUT I think it is important for Paul to campaign and push for votes through Feb 5th - here&#8217;s why:<br />
His message is continuing to gain recognition; it cannot be denied that many people still do not know who RP is, and that lack of name recognition certainly doesn&#8217;t help his campaign/message.<br />
Paul has, arguably, the most money to spend.  He will, more than likely, continue to out raise the &#8220;other guys&#8221;, allowing him to have a presence in every state in Super Tuesday.  As covered by CNN last night, and as several bloggers have pointed out, McCain, Guiliani, Huckabee, and even Romney don&#8217;t have the money to advertise and run a real campaign in every primary for Feb 5th.<br />
This gives Paul a chance to out spend everyone else and gain more national exposure. (Sidebar: anyone else find it interesting that the cut spending, Dr. No candidate is the one spending more than anyone else in his party?)<br />
Thats where we go from here&#8230; Continuing to spread the common sense small L philosophy until Feb 5th.  If Paul would endorse a young, popular in his district congressman as his predecessor, it would make life much easier for the Paulites.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeB</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388726</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, here's some reality:
Ron Paul has overcome a media blackout and trounced Giuliani and Thompson.
Let's face it: television controls the minds of most Americans.  And as far as television is concerned, Ron Paul doesn't exist.  His success so far is simply remarkable.
I, for one, am not swayed by a few white men who are worried about the political correctness of the man.  Liberty has nothing to do with political correctness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, here&#8217;s some reality:<br />
Ron Paul has overcome a media blackout and trounced Giuliani and Thompson.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it: television controls the minds of most Americans.  And as far as television is concerned, Ron Paul doesn&#8217;t exist.  His success so far is simply remarkable.<br />
I, for one, am not swayed by a few white men who are worried about the political correctness of the man.  Liberty has nothing to do with political correctness.</p>
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		<title>By: Chadlonius</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388724</link>
		<dc:creator>Chadlonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more we push now , the more it will resonate in the future. It really doesn't matter if he loses now his movement will echo in future candidates. And yes, I still believe Ron Paul has a chance at the presidency and everyone who wants to see real change in government and not just a change in management style better get off the couch and vote. Merely talking about change is not enough anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more we push now , the more it will resonate in the future. It really doesn&#8217;t matter if he loses now his movement will echo in future candidates. And yes, I still believe Ron Paul has a chance at the presidency and everyone who wants to see real change in government and not just a change in management style better get off the couch and vote. Merely talking about change is not enough anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw an interesting blog response on the New York Times website. It mentioned that Dr. Paul was one of the earlier supporters of Reagan and that Reagan complimented Dr. Paul on his efforts.

Dr. Paul's views are mainstream and not fringe in the Republican Party and I doubt that any Republican, even Reagan, had such a consistent record against large government interest in the lives of ordinary people.

As far as this issue or race is concerned, that was a coordinated attack on a man who has excellent character. Someone took advantage of Dr. Paul then and the media is taking advantage of Dr. Paul now. Does that mean he should not be President? No. It just means that there is still a lot of racism in this world and that we continue to have a media that interprets the truth instead of reports it.

Dr. Paul's movement does not go anywhere. He has inspired a lot of mainstream conservatives and the nation in general. Your emphasis on he cannot run for President based on those letters is simply wrong and in my opinion, narrow-minded. However, I bet the media will continue to drudge this up like a parasite even though it is old news. You should focus on the man himself and his ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw an interesting blog response on the New York Times website. It mentioned that Dr. Paul was one of the earlier supporters of Reagan and that Reagan complimented Dr. Paul on his efforts.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul&#8217;s views are mainstream and not fringe in the Republican Party and I doubt that any Republican, even Reagan, had such a consistent record against large government interest in the lives of ordinary people.</p>
<p>As far as this issue or race is concerned, that was a coordinated attack on a man who has excellent character. Someone took advantage of Dr. Paul then and the media is taking advantage of Dr. Paul now. Does that mean he should not be President? No. It just means that there is still a lot of racism in this world and that we continue to have a media that interprets the truth instead of reports it.</p>
<p>Dr. Paul&#8217;s movement does not go anywhere. He has inspired a lot of mainstream conservatives and the nation in general. Your emphasis on he cannot run for President based on those letters is simply wrong and in my opinion, narrow-minded. However, I bet the media will continue to drudge this up like a parasite even though it is old news. You should focus on the man himself and his ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388722</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, pay no attention to the trolls who keep bringing out the newsletter controversy before and after each primary, newsletters that have been addressed by Paul way back in the 90s. If Paul didn't represent a threat, why would they waste time rehashing this? 

The real story is that Paul has consistently came in at 6%-10% and is going to hang around, to the establishment's chagrin. Remember, that Paul was supposed to be a non-factor at "2%" and drop out after Iowa. Paul have beaten Rudy &#38; Thompson in all three states so far. If it wasn't for free liberal media coverage, he would be beating Huckabee as well. McCain and Huckabee are going broke. Paul's support is consistent and it will only go up as more people hear the message.  

I'm not going to make any predictions, but there's a good possibility of Paul winning NV and finishing strong in SC. He could also win in ME too. That gives him staying power and more donations, while the big donors are wary of donating because there's no clear front-runner yet. All of Paul's donations are from grassroots who haven't maxed out yet, and Paul is eligible for matching funds. 

This is the real reason why this newsletter story is still around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, pay no attention to the trolls who keep bringing out the newsletter controversy before and after each primary, newsletters that have been addressed by Paul way back in the 90s. If Paul didn&#8217;t represent a threat, why would they waste time rehashing this? </p>
<p>The real story is that Paul has consistently came in at 6%-10% and is going to hang around, to the establishment&#8217;s chagrin. Remember, that Paul was supposed to be a non-factor at &#8220;2%&#8221; and drop out after Iowa. Paul have beaten Rudy &amp; Thompson in all three states so far. If it wasn&#8217;t for free liberal media coverage, he would be beating Huckabee as well. McCain and Huckabee are going broke. Paul&#8217;s support is consistent and it will only go up as more people hear the message.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to make any predictions, but there&#8217;s a good possibility of Paul winning NV and finishing strong in SC. He could also win in ME too. That gives him staying power and more donations, while the big donors are wary of donating because there&#8217;s no clear front-runner yet. All of Paul&#8217;s donations are from grassroots who haven&#8217;t maxed out yet, and Paul is eligible for matching funds. </p>
<p>This is the real reason why this newsletter story is still around.</p>
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		<title>By: Eskiegirl302</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388721</link>
		<dc:creator>Eskiegirl302</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think for a minute the Ron Paul Revolution is over.  I think people are just regrouping.  Ron's campaign is not the usual political rhetoric.  People have not yet learned not to listen to propaganda which is the reason we keep hearing about these letters which were never written by Ron Paul.  It's just a way to keep people divided.  Is racism dead?  No.  Why not?  Because people will not let it die that's why.  It isn't Dr. Paul these people hurt like they think they do.  It all people of all races.  Now who are the real racist?  Those who keep trying to divide the country.  

I hear this morning on the news that the country is in the start of a recession.  Now why do you suppose that is?  Is that going to bother you?  We have bad government and it needs to change.  How long has hillary been in washington?  How long has obama been washington? Have either of them been able to do anything to curb the state of affairs this country is  in?  We hear a lot of promises.  Question is who is will really change it?  There is no economist I have listened to on cspan who disagrees with Ron Paul.  How come?  Because he knows what he is doing that's why.  If people want real change, the only way to do that is to get away from the type of people who make the outlook look good but don't deliver.  Some ideas sound crazy but maybe a radical change is just what we need.  Nothing else is working.  Bush over seas begging for oil.  How come?  No one wants to deal with him and now that the country is in really bad shape the washington talking heads are just a bit too little too late.  

People need to start thinking.  If it sounds comforting maybe it would be. Maybe it wouldn't be either.  Until you actually try something its nothing more than an experiment.  But while washington is experimenting with you, your life, your money, and your states rights, your the one who is going to have to live with it.  Maybe down the road you won't have a place to live and bread will be $7 a loaf.  This nafta highway would be real trouble.  It would erase the borders as you know them.  This in turn also erases your constitution.  The very thing that gives you your protection from a bad government.  

I still think Ron Paul is the way.  I think him being a strict constitutionalist will keep the government in check and we won't see them able to spend money like they have been doing which is making your bread $7 a loaf. 

Think people.  Think about what is going to happen to you.  We are in a fight for our lives and very close to losing it.  We need Ron Paul.  No matter what color you happen to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think for a minute the Ron Paul Revolution is over.  I think people are just regrouping.  Ron&#8217;s campaign is not the usual political rhetoric.  People have not yet learned not to listen to propaganda which is the reason we keep hearing about these letters which were never written by Ron Paul.  It&#8217;s just a way to keep people divided.  Is racism dead?  No.  Why not?  Because people will not let it die that&#8217;s why.  It isn&#8217;t Dr. Paul these people hurt like they think they do.  It all people of all races.  Now who are the real racist?  Those who keep trying to divide the country.  </p>
<p>I hear this morning on the news that the country is in the start of a recession.  Now why do you suppose that is?  Is that going to bother you?  We have bad government and it needs to change.  How long has hillary been in washington?  How long has obama been washington? Have either of them been able to do anything to curb the state of affairs this country is  in?  We hear a lot of promises.  Question is who is will really change it?  There is no economist I have listened to on cspan who disagrees with Ron Paul.  How come?  Because he knows what he is doing that&#8217;s why.  If people want real change, the only way to do that is to get away from the type of people who make the outlook look good but don&#8217;t deliver.  Some ideas sound crazy but maybe a radical change is just what we need.  Nothing else is working.  Bush over seas begging for oil.  How come?  No one wants to deal with him and now that the country is in really bad shape the washington talking heads are just a bit too little too late.  </p>
<p>People need to start thinking.  If it sounds comforting maybe it would be. Maybe it wouldn&#8217;t be either.  Until you actually try something its nothing more than an experiment.  But while washington is experimenting with you, your life, your money, and your states rights, your the one who is going to have to live with it.  Maybe down the road you won&#8217;t have a place to live and bread will be $7 a loaf.  This nafta highway would be real trouble.  It would erase the borders as you know them.  This in turn also erases your constitution.  The very thing that gives you your protection from a bad government.  </p>
<p>I still think Ron Paul is the way.  I think him being a strict constitutionalist will keep the government in check and we won&#8217;t see them able to spend money like they have been doing which is making your bread $7 a loaf. </p>
<p>Think people.  Think about what is going to happen to you.  We are in a fight for our lives and very close to losing it.  We need Ron Paul.  No matter what color you happen to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388719</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The campaign has clearly not been spending the $20 million they have... who knows why? I think the campaign's been reading your blog, Justin =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The campaign has clearly not been spending the $20 million they have&#8230; who knows why? I think the campaign&#8217;s been reading your blog, Justin =)</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitriy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388718</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitriy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is why you get the impression that RP supporters are nuts. It's simple. BECAUSE RON PAUL HAS AWAKENED SO MANY APATHETIC PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. 

The reality couldn't be more clear. Our economy is already crashing at a rapid rate. We are getting duped into wanting the 4th Reich and it seems as though the only man who is a true American is being shunned as a kook or a nut.

It takes a lot of guts for Ron Paul supporters to stand up and say NO to a possibly-soon-to-be fascist nation.

This revolution is just beginning.

Also, let me point out something. For the majority: JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER WITNESSED A REVOLUTION, HOLOCAUST, MASS KILLING, ETC DOESN'T MEAN YOU WILL NOT SEE IT HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE TIME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is why you get the impression that RP supporters are nuts. It&#8217;s simple. BECAUSE RON PAUL HAS AWAKENED SO MANY APATHETIC PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. </p>
<p>The reality couldn&#8217;t be more clear. Our economy is already crashing at a rapid rate. We are getting duped into wanting the 4th Reich and it seems as though the only man who is a true American is being shunned as a kook or a nut.</p>
<p>It takes a lot of guts for Ron Paul supporters to stand up and say NO to a possibly-soon-to-be fascist nation.</p>
<p>This revolution is just beginning.</p>
<p>Also, let me point out something. For the majority: JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER WITNESSED A REVOLUTION, HOLOCAUST, MASS KILLING, ETC DOESN&#8217;T MEAN YOU WILL NOT SEE IT HAPPENING IN YOUR LIFE TIME.</p>
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		<title>By: nalineback</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388717</link>
		<dc:creator>nalineback</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim S said
So if a Ron Paul paradise were to come about all you have to do in order to have basic rights is to uproot yourself and move away from a place you used to be happy in? All you have to do is hope that you can find a state that won’t follow the path the one you currently live in followed in restricting individual rights and hope you can find work there?

Jim, 

At least there might be somewhere to go.  Where is there to go now?  No where!!  People came here with nothing from Europe in the past on disease filled boats and you are unwilling to move to a neighboring state.  Also freedom makes people prosperous.  States that are more free will be more prosperous.  People will start to migrate to more prosperous states.  In order to stop the migration states will become more free.  The problem we have right now is that there is no place in the world that is even moderately free.  Thus, no place for people to migrate.   I hope I get to see real freedom in my lifetime.  Hopefully when the government expands and liberty contracts even further, under the presidency of whoever wins, more people will wake up.   Until then I will be fighting to shrink the size of my local government.  I would suggest that all Ron Paul supporters do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim S said<br />
So if a Ron Paul paradise were to come about all you have to do in order to have basic rights is to uproot yourself and move away from a place you used to be happy in? All you have to do is hope that you can find a state that won’t follow the path the one you currently live in followed in restricting individual rights and hope you can find work there?</p>
<p>Jim, </p>
<p>At least there might be somewhere to go.  Where is there to go now?  No where!!  People came here with nothing from Europe in the past on disease filled boats and you are unwilling to move to a neighboring state.  Also freedom makes people prosperous.  States that are more free will be more prosperous.  People will start to migrate to more prosperous states.  In order to stop the migration states will become more free.  The problem we have right now is that there is no place in the world that is even moderately free.  Thus, no place for people to migrate.   I hope I get to see real freedom in my lifetime.  Hopefully when the government expands and liberty contracts even further, under the presidency of whoever wins, more people will wake up.   Until then I will be fighting to shrink the size of my local government.  I would suggest that all Ron Paul supporters do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388715</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Dr. Paul counted out because of these newsletters? So he is human, just like the rest of us. Look at the crap we put up with from the so-called front runners! From the Presidents past! 
Okay, done with that, the answer doesn't really matter.
I do hope that the movement will go forward. I'm tired of setting by and watching the things being done in the name of Liberty, freedom, and justice. It's crap. We can become what we were before if we all stand together and stop listening to all the crap we get spoon fed by the old media. Think about it. All we know is what they tell us. How do we know that the things that they say are going on in the rest of the World really are? Why do we trust these people so much? I don't get it.
One example, the Iran ship encounter that happend last week. They wanted us to be afraid. When Dr. Paul said that it may not have happened the way the Government was saying it did people got pissed. Well guess what, it didn't! They are now saying that the little speed boats were probably not the ones who sent the threat.
So lets try something. Everything the old media tells you, believe the opposite. My brother is a Captain in the Marines. He has been to these other countries and has heard what the media says about them. He said and I quote, "Don't believe anything you see on the news and only half of what you hear." That comes from 30plus years of serving this country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Dr. Paul counted out because of these newsletters? So he is human, just like the rest of us. Look at the crap we put up with from the so-called front runners! From the Presidents past!<br />
Okay, done with that, the answer doesn&#8217;t really matter.<br />
I do hope that the movement will go forward. I&#8217;m tired of setting by and watching the things being done in the name of Liberty, freedom, and justice. It&#8217;s crap. We can become what we were before if we all stand together and stop listening to all the crap we get spoon fed by the old media. Think about it. All we know is what they tell us. How do we know that the things that they say are going on in the rest of the World really are? Why do we trust these people so much? I don&#8217;t get it.<br />
One example, the Iran ship encounter that happend last week. They wanted us to be afraid. When Dr. Paul said that it may not have happened the way the Government was saying it did people got pissed. Well guess what, it didn&#8217;t! They are now saying that the little speed boats were probably not the ones who sent the threat.<br />
So lets try something. Everything the old media tells you, believe the opposite. My brother is a Captain in the Marines. He has been to these other countries and has heard what the media says about them. He said and I quote, &#8220;Don&#8217;t believe anything you see on the news and only half of what you hear.&#8221; That comes from 30plus years of serving this country!</p>
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		<title>By: Timur Rozenfeld</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388714</link>
		<dc:creator>Timur Rozenfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's give scrutiny to Ron Paul and ignore the problems with the other candidates??? Even if Ron Paul were a racist, which I don't believe he is, his proposals and policies go against these ideas.  Now Hillary, Barack and Edwards believe in legalized theft and are willing to enforce it. Is that better? McCain, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee believe its ok killing innocent civilians as part of the war on terror.  They also believe its ok to have our soldiers die in Iraq where we have no business being.  These are real problems.

We can throw the baby out with the bath water and say Ron Paul is unacceptable and that's fine. Just don't tell me the other candidates are any better. In fact they are far worse. Let's give them the same kind of scrutiny RonPaulHaterBots are giving to Ron Paul.

Ron Paul is still the best choice of both parties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s give scrutiny to Ron Paul and ignore the problems with the other candidates??? Even if Ron Paul were a racist, which I don&#8217;t believe he is, his proposals and policies go against these ideas.  Now Hillary, Barack and Edwards believe in legalized theft and are willing to enforce it. Is that better? McCain, Thompson, Giuliani, Romney and Huckabee believe its ok killing innocent civilians as part of the war on terror.  They also believe its ok to have our soldiers die in Iraq where we have no business being.  These are real problems.</p>
<p>We can throw the baby out with the bath water and say Ron Paul is unacceptable and that&#8217;s fine. Just don&#8217;t tell me the other candidates are any better. In fact they are far worse. Let&#8217;s give them the same kind of scrutiny RonPaulHaterBots are giving to Ron Paul.</p>
<p>Ron Paul is still the best choice of both parties.</p>
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		<title>By: steven orrange</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388713</link>
		<dc:creator>steven orrange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul has the funds to survive well beyond super Tuesday.  For the little coverage he receives, drumming Gouliani and Thompson was quite an achievement.  
McCain and Huckabee are running on fumes.  It could come down to Romney and Paul for the long haul....hmmmm I wonder which one gets the NRA endorsement?  
Conservative Gun Owners of America offers the following Ratings:
Paul A
Huckabee A
Thompson D (surprised?)
McCain F  (not Surprised)
Guliani and Romney - rate lower than McCain. (also not surprised)
What's a conservative to do???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul has the funds to survive well beyond super Tuesday.  For the little coverage he receives, drumming Gouliani and Thompson was quite an achievement.<br />
McCain and Huckabee are running on fumes.  It could come down to Romney and Paul for the long haul&#8230;.hmmmm I wonder which one gets the NRA endorsement?<br />
Conservative Gun Owners of America offers the following Ratings:<br />
Paul A<br />
Huckabee A<br />
Thompson D (surprised?)<br />
McCain F  (not Surprised)<br />
Guliani and Romney - rate lower than McCain. (also not surprised)<br />
What&#8217;s a conservative to do???</p>
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		<title>By: David Powell</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388712</link>
		<dc:creator>David Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin, I think many Paul supporters are (and always have been) realistic about his chances.  But we're also pragmatic, so we know it's important to lend our support to the first remotely-credible libertarianesque candidate to appear in a long time.  It's for that reason that I hope Paul can be talked into an independent candidacy for the general election.  He won't win, but we need to capitalize on any opportunity to get mainstream exposure for libertarian ideas, which exist outside the political/philosophical thought-box for many people.

I'm not even necessarily talking about hardcore, scrap-the-whole-government-now-and-let-the-market-sort-it libertarianism, because that's obviously a political non-starter.  The "movement" (a word I use with hesitation) would be best-served by using Paul's candidacy to help build an alternative political dialogue in the mainstream consciousness.   A dialogue that encourages people to question the idea that government is always the agency best-equipped to solve their problems.  A dialogue that alerts people to the personal &#38; economic freedoms they used to have vs. the less-free world (West &#38; East alike), and one that illustrates how that gap is closing.  The public is sleepwalking on all those counts.  A high-profile, third party run by Paul potentially provides a platform to start waking them up.

Unless we can help our fellow citizens break through that conceptual barrier, classic libertarianism will remain dead (and it is dead, folks).  We've reached the point where the problem is less one of politics than of activism and awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin, I think many Paul supporters are (and always have been) realistic about his chances.  But we&#8217;re also pragmatic, so we know it&#8217;s important to lend our support to the first remotely-credible libertarianesque candidate to appear in a long time.  It&#8217;s for that reason that I hope Paul can be talked into an independent candidacy for the general election.  He won&#8217;t win, but we need to capitalize on any opportunity to get mainstream exposure for libertarian ideas, which exist outside the political/philosophical thought-box for many people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even necessarily talking about hardcore, scrap-the-whole-government-now-and-let-the-market-sort-it libertarianism, because that&#8217;s obviously a political non-starter.  The &#8220;movement&#8221; (a word I use with hesitation) would be best-served by using Paul&#8217;s candidacy to help build an alternative political dialogue in the mainstream consciousness.   A dialogue that encourages people to question the idea that government is always the agency best-equipped to solve their problems.  A dialogue that alerts people to the personal &amp; economic freedoms they used to have vs. the less-free world (West &amp; East alike), and one that illustrates how that gap is closing.  The public is sleepwalking on all those counts.  A high-profile, third party run by Paul potentially provides a platform to start waking them up.</p>
<p>Unless we can help our fellow citizens break through that conceptual barrier, classic libertarianism will remain dead (and it is dead, folks).  We&#8217;ve reached the point where the problem is less one of politics than of activism and awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388711</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Jim S,

You lack faith in yourself. A clear consequence of living under the thumb of the Federal Government for so long. With greater state's rights your voice would carry all the more weight, not drowned out by the 300 million or so other Americans. If there is a political aspect you wish to change then get-up and change it. You will find that without an authoritarian Federal Government this will be much easier. Don't forget that all the while we are protected by the Constitution. This means no segregation, anti-gay laws and so forth. If we actually followed the letter of the law, as has been rarely done in our history, we would be quite protected from the will of tyrants certainly more so than now where the tyrant lives possibly a thousand miles away.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Jim S,</p>
<p>You lack faith in yourself. A clear consequence of living under the thumb of the Federal Government for so long. With greater state&#8217;s rights your voice would carry all the more weight, not drowned out by the 300 million or so other Americans. If there is a political aspect you wish to change then get-up and change it. You will find that without an authoritarian Federal Government this will be much easier. Don&#8217;t forget that all the while we are protected by the Constitution. This means no segregation, anti-gay laws and so forth. If we actually followed the letter of the law, as has been rarely done in our history, we would be quite protected from the will of tyrants certainly more so than now where the tyrant lives possibly a thousand miles away.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388710</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"So question to Paul supporters, where do you go from here? And please be realistic...&lt;/i&gt;

I still think that is the wrong question. the real question of whether &lt;i&gt;"the movement"&lt;/i&gt; succeeds, is whether we see other, more mainstream candidates, modify or embrace "freedom movement" positions and issues in an attempt to entice a portion of the Paul following. As commenter John Galt points out, there is a definite ~5-8% in the GOP primary that is committed to these ideas. 

Tell me that there is not any leading candidate of either party that would not love to have half of that vote in their tally? I am surprised we have not seen more pandering to Paul's ideas. Maybe we are seeing it to some degree. Surprisingly consistent 2nd amendment defense in the Dem debate last night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;So question to Paul supporters, where do you go from here? And please be realistic&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I still think that is the wrong question. the real question of whether <i>&#8220;the movement&#8221;</i> succeeds, is whether we see other, more mainstream candidates, modify or embrace &#8220;freedom movement&#8221; positions and issues in an attempt to entice a portion of the Paul following. As commenter John Galt points out, there is a definite ~5-8% in the GOP primary that is committed to these ideas. </p>
<p>Tell me that there is not any leading candidate of either party that would not love to have half of that vote in their tally? I am surprised we have not seen more pandering to Paul&#8217;s ideas. Maybe we are seeing it to some degree. Surprisingly consistent 2nd amendment defense in the Dem debate last night.</p>
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		<title>By: Collin 28</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388709</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin 28</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name of this column should be

"IS THE RUDI G MOVEMENT OVER?

Rudi and Thompson are finished and going backward while Ron Paul who has the solutions that Americans are looking for keeps growing.

Ron Paul and my whole family have his total support....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name of this column should be</p>
<p>&#8220;IS THE RUDI G MOVEMENT OVER?</p>
<p>Rudi and Thompson are finished and going backward while Ron Paul who has the solutions that Americans are looking for keeps growing.</p>
<p>Ron Paul and my whole family have his total support&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Zrnchik</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/01/16/is-the-ron-paul-movement-over/#comment-388708</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Zrnchik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over?  Nothing is over.  Ron Paul has only begun to sow the seeds of individual liberty, peace, and proseperity.

His educating the American people about fiat money, fractional reserve banking, inflation, and the warfare/welfare state with a supreme executive has served to show the American people the danger to our constitutional republic.

When Rudy is in the poor house Ron Paul will still be raking in donations from "We The People".

I know this time on MLK's birthday I will give more than the last two times.  Maybe this will shut up the hacks and shills.

Thank you for your courage Ron Paul!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over?  Nothing is over.  Ron Paul has only begun to sow the seeds of individual liberty, peace, and proseperity.</p>
<p>His educating the American people about fiat money, fractional reserve banking, inflation, and the warfare/welfare state with a supreme executive has served to show the American people the danger to our constitutional republic.</p>
<p>When Rudy is in the poor house Ron Paul will still be raking in donations from &#8220;We The People&#8221;.</p>
<p>I know this time on MLK&#8217;s birthday I will give more than the last two times.  Maybe this will shut up the hacks and shills.</p>
<p>Thank you for your courage Ron Paul!</p>
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