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	<title>Comments on: Bill, You&#8217;re Not Helping Hillary</title>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 01:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree!  Though I am a Obama supporter, I once believed that no matter who got the nomination, we (democrats) would be in pretty good shape for the general election.  Even though I believe that Obama would be the best candidate for change as well as the best candidate to go up against the republicans, I still had a lot of respect for both Clintons.  Itâ€™s amazing how a couple of months have totally changed my opinion.  I now think the Clintons are an embarassmentâ€¦and the whole â€œfirst woman presidentâ€ dream seems more like a farce everytime Bill Clinton is out there sounding like heâ€™s running for a third term.  Itâ€™s a real shame.  I mean, its one thing to be out there supporting your spouse, but Bill Clinton is taking it to a whole other level, and its really damaging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree!  Though I am a Obama supporter, I once believed that no matter who got the nomination, we (democrats) would be in pretty good shape for the general election.  Even though I believe that Obama would be the best candidate for change as well as the best candidate to go up against the republicans, I still had a lot of respect for both Clintons.  Itâ€™s amazing how a couple of months have totally changed my opinion.  I now think the Clintons are an embarassmentâ€¦and the whole â€œfirst woman presidentâ€ dream seems more like a farce everytime Bill Clinton is out there sounding like heâ€™s running for a third term.  Itâ€™s a real shame.  I mean, its one thing to be out there supporting your spouse, but Bill Clinton is taking it to a whole other level, and its really damaging.</p>
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		<title>By: Jammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know.  Seems like lots of people would gladly vote for Bill again but dont like Hillary.  And some people want to vote for Hillary and want her to keep Bill out of it.  Yet the fact that a popular ex president will be there in the WH assisting as she sees fit is a big plus to some, and from what you say here a negative to others.  Did it ever occur to anyone this is a probably once in a lifetime unique chance to get a woman elected and break the gender barrier precisely because Bill is with her, and that without Bill she would not get anywhere, and no other woman would either?  Once she is in, if she is to be in, other women will have a better chance and possibly no need for a strong ex President next to them.  this first time, it may actually be necessary.  Just my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know.  Seems like lots of people would gladly vote for Bill again but dont like Hillary.  And some people want to vote for Hillary and want her to keep Bill out of it.  Yet the fact that a popular ex president will be there in the WH assisting as she sees fit is a big plus to some, and from what you say here a negative to others.  Did it ever occur to anyone this is a probably once in a lifetime unique chance to get a woman elected and break the gender barrier precisely because Bill is with her, and that without Bill she would not get anywhere, and no other woman would either?  Once she is in, if she is to be in, other women will have a better chance and possibly no need for a strong ex President next to them.  this first time, it may actually be necessary.  Just my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 04:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s so sad to see the Clinton&#039;s bringing back the dirty tricks etc.  How much more of the old divisiveness and mudslinging will it take before folks starting remembering that it was HIllary who was in charge of the Clinton&#039;s political attack machine when they used attacks, smears, lies, denigration, intimidation etc. to undermine the credibility of anyone who challenged them.   The long list of woman who were victims of Bill&#039;s sexual compulsions, like Paula Jones, Monica Lewinski, Gennifer Flowers, Jaunita Broaderick, Kathleen Willey,  Sally Perdue, Elizabeth Ward Grace, Dolly Browning etc. etc, thereafter, became victoms of HIllary, Carville and the rest of The Machine.  

Surrogate, James Carville denigrated Paula Jones on news shows with the &quot;walk through a trailer park with $100 and see what crawls out comments.&quot;  

And even after Hillary knew about Bill&#039;s woman problem and lies, she sat by silently enabling while he looked the camera in the eye, wagged his finger and said &quot;I did not have sex with that woman... Monica Lewinski.&quot;    

Both of the Clinton&#039;s own this history.  And both have been remarkably consistent their modus operandi and behavior and what it says about their character.   They will do or say anything necessary to gain power.

And now new Clinton surrogates have the gall to attack Oprah and other woman who support Obama about betraying the &quot;sisterhood.&quot;  gak!

Hillary owes these woman and all woman victims of sexual abuse, and harassment an apology.    Why hasn&#039;t the press asked her about this.  How do these woman feel about a Clinton candadacy now?  Oprah should do a month long series bringing these woman back and asking them how it felt to have their reputations and their lives bludgeoned by the Clinton attack machine, with Hillary leading the charge.  

But even after the Clintons disgraced themselves, the office of the Presidency, and our nation, we forgave them and let them rehabilitate themselves back into public service.  

But they need to study other successful models of redemption.  Public redemption is not a free pass to commit your sins and crimes all over again.  

Daschle warns Bill, &quot;to be careful not to tarnish his legacy.&quot;  LOL He has got to be kidding right?   

Too late Clintons.  The only question now is how much lower are you going to bring our nation by bringing this style of the politics of personal destruction and  all of this muck,  back to the front pages.  

I voted for Bill twice and defended hi and low, through the impeachment, and have appreciated and encouraged his post-presidency rehabilatation and good works especially around the world. 

I hope the Democratic leadership wakes up and works harder to get the Clintons to stop these low down tactics before they do further damage not only to themselves, but to the Democratic Party and our nation.

Once the Rovian GOP attack machines rejoin this battle it will get really ugly. 

My hope would be that Hillary withdraw with apologies to everyone before this spirals further down and out of control.  

It&#039;s time for a fresh start and new directions.  I&#039;m happy to support either Edwards, or Obama.  Or if necessary any progressive third party like Bloomburg.    But I&#039;ve had enough of this Clinton negativity.

Former Clinton Supporter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s so sad to see the Clinton&#8217;s bringing back the dirty tricks etc.  How much more of the old divisiveness and mudslinging will it take before folks starting remembering that it was HIllary who was in charge of the Clinton&#8217;s political attack machine when they used attacks, smears, lies, denigration, intimidation etc. to undermine the credibility of anyone who challenged them.   The long list of woman who were victims of Bill&#8217;s sexual compulsions, like Paula Jones, Monica Lewinski, Gennifer Flowers, Jaunita Broaderick, Kathleen Willey,  Sally Perdue, Elizabeth Ward Grace, Dolly Browning etc. etc, thereafter, became victoms of HIllary, Carville and the rest of The Machine.  </p>
<p>Surrogate, James Carville denigrated Paula Jones on news shows with the &#8220;walk through a trailer park with $100 and see what crawls out comments.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And even after Hillary knew about Bill&#8217;s woman problem and lies, she sat by silently enabling while he looked the camera in the eye, wagged his finger and said &#8220;I did not have sex with that woman&#8230; Monica Lewinski.&#8221;    </p>
<p>Both of the Clinton&#8217;s own this history.  And both have been remarkably consistent their modus operandi and behavior and what it says about their character.   They will do or say anything necessary to gain power.</p>
<p>And now new Clinton surrogates have the gall to attack Oprah and other woman who support Obama about betraying the &#8220;sisterhood.&#8221;  gak!</p>
<p>Hillary owes these woman and all woman victims of sexual abuse, and harassment an apology.    Why hasn&#8217;t the press asked her about this.  How do these woman feel about a Clinton candadacy now?  Oprah should do a month long series bringing these woman back and asking them how it felt to have their reputations and their lives bludgeoned by the Clinton attack machine, with Hillary leading the charge.  </p>
<p>But even after the Clintons disgraced themselves, the office of the Presidency, and our nation, we forgave them and let them rehabilitate themselves back into public service.  </p>
<p>But they need to study other successful models of redemption.  Public redemption is not a free pass to commit your sins and crimes all over again.  </p>
<p>Daschle warns Bill, &#8220;to be careful not to tarnish his legacy.&#8221;  LOL He has got to be kidding right?   </p>
<p>Too late Clintons.  The only question now is how much lower are you going to bring our nation by bringing this style of the politics of personal destruction and  all of this muck,  back to the front pages.  </p>
<p>I voted for Bill twice and defended hi and low, through the impeachment, and have appreciated and encouraged his post-presidency rehabilatation and good works especially around the world. </p>
<p>I hope the Democratic leadership wakes up and works harder to get the Clintons to stop these low down tactics before they do further damage not only to themselves, but to the Democratic Party and our nation.</p>
<p>Once the Rovian GOP attack machines rejoin this battle it will get really ugly. </p>
<p>My hope would be that Hillary withdraw with apologies to everyone before this spirals further down and out of control.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for a fresh start and new directions.  I&#8217;m happy to support either Edwards, or Obama.  Or if necessary any progressive third party like Bloomburg.    But I&#8217;ve had enough of this Clinton negativity.</p>
<p>Former Clinton Supporter</p>
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