(Hope you’ll enjoy it as much as I did.) Cheers!

It’s so predictable that you begin your response by hiding behind “others” to obfuscate the matter at hand, claiming: “you don’t understand anything that is said to you. Not just by me, but everyone who has ever answered you.”

Don’t mind me if I point out that you alone have responded to me. Hence, unless you possess more than one personality, let’s leave others out of this. Besides, I am still waiting to be dazzled by you. Though, I am very mindful of your proclivity for smoke and mirrors.

Next, comes the promulgation, “Facts are facts.” Really?

Here are some questions that need to be answered.
Do the ‘facts’ reflect reality (not your own) or are they part and parcel of your conclusions? Are you taking in all the facts or just the ones that fit in with your pre-established prejudices?
Strong opinions don’t automatically translate into accurate information.
Typically, reasonable individuals with equally opposing views who have come to an impasse choose to agree to disagree. It happens all the time, even on this blog.
Keep this in mind because it’ll help you with the next idea.

About “understanding.”
What will it take for you to comprehend that without honesty and respect exchanges are not possible? Ergo, I am NOT interested in talking with you, no matter the subject.

You see the MESSAGE is as important as the MEANS used to communicate it and vice versa.

All your comments are crafted heavily on rhetoric, condescension and ad homs.
Throwing a jab here and there in the middle of a debate is one thing. Harassing people is quite another.

Shall we rehash?

To ACS, based on the initial post.
“Hmmmm….. I’m getting a bit tired of the greedy America bankrupting scum…the real point is that your idiot hero W has destroyed America. Step up and take the blame, you dispicable cowards.

Later to Jimmy:
…What a dispicable little America destroying coward you are! Now, how about you actually try to defend the blithering moron…”

Again to Jimmy:
“Jimmy, the debt will be around $10 trillion when your moron hero leaves office, thanks for bankrupting America genius. 1999 was not Clinton’s last year, 2000 was and the debt wasn’t 5.8 trillion, as your fellow brainwashed sheep Elsabetta just pointed out ..”

To me:
“.,,you have no idea what true conservatives stand for. Here’s a hint, it’s pretty much the exact opposite of everything your idiot hero Bush has done.… you would need to not be brainwashed to understand that.”

On and On… So tiring. That is the bulk of your “facts” A better word would be casting aspersions and engaging in offensive remarks.

Consequently, it’s totally ludicrous for you accuse me of incivility for comparing you to the nut jobs at KOS, for 2 reasons:
1. You verbally assaulted 3 different people in this thread alone.
2. Your own behavior was the reason for the affinity with the left-wing extremists.

Apparently, truth matters little to you from what I observed, first hand. Your latest fabrication is that I view you as mean and nasty because I can’t accept that we dissent on certain issues.
What an egregious confabulation!
Reality check – The truth is that anyone that differs with your viewpoints becomes the target of your attacks.

Repeatedly, with no provocation, you protest that you are NO liberal but a true conservative, whereas some of us are not. No sirree.
But, then you go and blat to Jimmy:
“It would sure be refreshing if you were ever even remotely honest, but then, you’re a republican.”

Enlighten us. Was it the liberal or the conservative in you that uttered that claptrap?

David final (for the day) condescending thought: “I’ll await your ridicules reply that completely ignores everything I said just so you can whine about what a big meanie I am.”

Anytime now, David, it would be a good time to quit… I am rooting for ya!

Your comments, regardless of the topic at hand, can be summed up as follows, ” Bush idiot, you brainwashed, you scum, you … (fill in with inanity and insults) blah, blah… I hate you because you don’t think like me and only those that think like me are smart (paraphrased).”
Yeah, very intelligent debating skills. Look in the mirror for pathetic and crazy.

The problem is that most people now choose their politics the same way they choose a sports team to root for. Their team (party) is always good and right and the other is always bad and wrong. It is very easy to test this. If a democrat had started 2 wars without any exit plans and run up trillions in debt the republicans would be howling blood murder (as they should) but since one of their team did it, they are all for it. It’s the same as when democrats acted like it was just fine for Clinton to screw around in the oval office and lie about it.

As a rule, I choose not to answer your insensate comments when I run across them, except when you attack or trash me because “you believe” your stances are better than mine.

Here are a few reasons why YOU should keep quiet.

1. An inability to listen and discuss an opposite viewpoint without getting personal and nasty – mildly put. (See this thread)

2. A regular pattern of misquoting people and lying about what they said. Without once retracting your falsehoods. Do I need to remind you it’s all in b/w on this blog? (See this thread and all the ones you have responded to me).

3. A knee-jerk reaction of spewing vitriol when addressing someone who believes differently than you. (see this thread)

3. Ad nauseam broken record of bashing President Bush and anyone that may remotely speak positively of him. Hardly a difference between you and the nut jobs on KOS et al. (see most threads where you comments)

Let’s not forget that the more you caterwaul your “conservativism”, while disparaging Tom Dick and Harry’s, the less convincing you sound.

Hence, don’t twist my comments, don’t misquote me, keep your ranting to yourself and I won’t have to waste my time rectifying your malarkey.

What I think it’s fine and how your construe my words are not one and the same.
Also, it was you that initiated the discussion on figures and years.
Moreover, it was you that beat up on Jimmy for incorrect dates and amounts.
Yet, when someone points out your faulty argument you get outraged, get off on other tangents and dismiss the initial argument you began as irrelevant. There is a term for that: deflecting.

Last but not least, I have never advocated paying no taxes as you continue to allege, deceptively. I am against being OVER-TAXED or taxed for the wrong reasons.
Can’t imagine any sane or informed person would support taxation under those conditions.

Now, care to explain to me why you fully support making it even worse by trillions ?

Because it has actually been made better by even more trillions. Clinton didn’t mismanage the economy, nor did Bush. Its not how much money you are in debt, its what you get for the money that matters. Raising the GDP of this country (the total amount of wealth) by over 40% is what you got for the money under both administrations, respectively. We are constantly paying off old debt and taking out new loans of higher value, thus increasing the net amount of debt, because we are growing economically.

Would you rather live in a 15 trillion dollar economy with a 10 trillion dollar debt, or in a 15 billion dollar economy with a 10 billion dollar debt?

Well, Jimmy was off with the year. Ahem, so were you!
HOWEVER, Jimmy was correct on the 5.8 trillion figure. To be more precise, $5.807463.

Clinton’s last year

Fiscal Year 2001

Year Ending 09/28/2001

National Debt $5.807463 trillion

Deficit $133.29 billion

Got anything better than empty rhetoric and aspersions to offer?

2007 is not Bush’s last year either. 2008 will be. We have to wait until this year is over for me to quote the debt/GDP ratio equivalent to 2000. Oh well, semantics.

Anyhoo, since the debt when Clinton left office was around 5.7 Trillion dollars, thats still a big scary number!! So I guess we were already bankrupt back then. Thanks for taking a break from begging for change in order to tell me this. Think about the grandchildren!

Well, Jimmy was off with the year, and so were you, YET he was correct on the 5.8 trillion figure. To be more precise, $5.807463!

Clinton’s last year

Fiscal Year 2001

Year Ending 09/28/2001

National Debt $5.807463 trillion

Deficit $133.29 billion

Well, Jimmy was off with the year, but he was correct on the 5.8 trillion figure. To be more precise, $5.807463!

Clinton’s last year

Fiscal Year 2001

Year Ending 09/28/2001

National Debt $5.807463 trillion

Deficit $133.29 billion