Comments on: So Ron Paul Supporters, What Now?

By: Lil John

Lil John — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:47:12 +0000

I refuse to be a sheep and have no loyalty to the long lost republican party. My loyalty is to my country. I vow to never sell out to McCain or any of the others.

By: 1biglug

1biglug — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:02:28 +0000

Realistically, even the most hardcore RP supporters have to look to the future. I’ve never been this inspired and involved in a candidate’s campaign, yet I pull the lever tomorrow for RP knowing that we’re a long shot. This is the truly important thing: We’re not voting for Ron Paul. We’re not Paulistas, we’re not blind lemmings following a PERSONALITY. We’re voting for freedom and liberty…this is not about RP, and he’s smart enough to know that. The notion of a constitutional government is not going to go away after this election cycle.

Some want to let the barn burn in order to save the farmhouse. I guess that would mean helping the opposition to sell away even more of our sovereignty for cheap votes. So we pick a whore from the left and let ‘em give away the store for four years. Hopefully by then even more people will have come to their senses and realize what a crisis we’re in.

Then all an obscure candidate would have to do is invoke the name Ron Paul, and a bunch of citizens will come out of the woodwork and do this all over again until enough people “get it!” Whoever that candidate may be, he/she had better be a brilliant economist, because we’ve built quite a house of cards over the years, and it’s going to take some extreme talent and a lot of guts to dismantle it properly without causing economic ruin.

I’m glad Ron’s in good health. He may live to see the dream fulfilled, even if he’s not in the captain’s chair.

By: Eric Williams

Eric Williams — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:28:31 +0000

Jim S, you talk about balanced budgets like they’re a bad thing. If average Americans spent more than they made they’d be up to their eyeballs in credit card debt, look for “too good to be true” deals, end up broke, and lose their homes. Oh wait…

So, why is balancing the budget, a responsible thing for individuals to do, a bad idea for the federal and state governments?

By: Eric D. Rittberg

Eric D. Rittberg — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:18:35 +0000

Ron Paul will have to beat Wayne Root first for the Libertarian nomination. There are a lot of LPers who don’t like Ron Paul, particularly after the Racist Newsletter scandal.

Plus, Paul would have to give up his Congressional seat here in Texas.

By: Eric Dondero

Eric Dondero — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:15:49 +0000

Ron Paul will have to beat Wayne Root first for the Libertarian nomination. There are a lot of LPers who don’t like Ron Paul, particularly after the Racist Newsletter scandal.

Plus, Paul would have to give up his Congressional seat here in Texas.

By: Eric Dondero

Eric Dondero — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:13:58 +0000

Paul won’t be a cinch for the LP nomination. Wayne Root is the frontrunner right now in the Libertarian Party. I can’t see him stepping aside for Paul without a fight.

Plus, Paul would have to give up his Congressional seat to go 3rd party. Texas Republicans won’t stand for him jumping ship.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:50:39 +0000

Sandra exemplifies the typical level of knowledge of the hardcore Paul supporters. Yes, Maine has already had their Republican caucuses.

By: Jaimie

Jaimie — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:58:26 +0000

Here is what one Ron Paul supporter intends to do. My mother was a Republican for 60 years. Then after she discovered what the Bush administration was doing to destroy our country and the rest of the world, she re-registered as an independent.
She is strongly behind Ron Paul, he is her first choice candidate. The other day she told me that McCain scares her, she thinks he is a crazy warmonger and that if he is the Republican candidate, she will vote for Obama. !!!!!!!!!

By: Agnostick

Agnostick — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:06:11 +0000

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By: KABSTER

KABSTER — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 04:29:07 +0000

I went and took my only day off today to work at the CALL4PAUL Los Angeles Headquarters.
What happens is a calling machine calls a number in Minnesota. Someone answers the phone (potential voter) they are asked if they want more info on Ron Paul to press * At that point they are transfered to us.

We answer the phone and answer any questions they have.
The majority of the people that have heard of Ron Paul say they are voting for him and want us to know that.

The ones that have never heard of Ron Paul are completely confused and outraged at the media blackout of such a QUALIFIED CANDIDATE not even being mentioned in the media. Many googled him and looked at ronpaul2008 dot com.

People, there is a HUGE PAUL FOLLOWING OUT THERE lets all do our part to spread the word. Even if he doesn’t get the delegates
HE MUST RUN ON A THIRD PARTY TICKET.

LET’S SEE THIS THROUGH TO THE END

kabster

By: Sandra

Sandra — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 03:09:46 +0000

Where on earth did you get the totals for Maine this early? Wishful writing perhaps?

By: DenisL

DenisL — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 23:19:29 +0000

Well ….. it is not over until it is over. Ron Paul wants to speak at the convention. To do that he will need enough delegates to make a difference in a brokered convention. We will know more after super Tuesday. Does anyone really know what is going on in Louisiana and in Maine? Or Nevada? Or California? Everyone is paying attention to the voting but not to the elected delegates. Very interesting times. Ron Paul supporters are dedicated, ACTIVE, creative and smart. Just be patient and keep voting. And keep trying and sending money! Even when the voting is done in your state. We ARE making a difference for our kids and grandkids, and maybe even ourselves.
Oh AND BUY gold. Bernanke is trying to hold back the tide.

By: Abe

Abe — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:59:23 +0000

Ron Paul is not flatlining. He is just now building momentum. Think about the large majority of the anti-war vote that went to McCain in the NH exit polls. Those people obviously didnâ€™t know what the heck they were voting for in â€œHundred Year Warâ€ McKill. Every dollar donated, every commercial ran, every door knocked will keep growing this movement.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:23:08 +0000

Ron Paul has flatlined because most people have the sense to realize that his platform has no relation to the real world, Justin. Libertarianism of any stripe completely ignores the real world and how non-ideologues think. Consider Maslow’s Heirarchy of Needs and how it ties into the modern globalized economy and the ideology of libertarianism. Look particularly at the level referred to as safety. Think about those needs and losing your job or knowing someone who has lost theirs and what it does to a family. What watching the bills pile up even as you do your best to find a job does to someone’s feelings of self worth. Then you are offered a job. But the pay isn’t nearly what your old job paid. There aren’t any benefits or maybe they’re just not as good as what you used to have. Why should those who have gone through this or know someone who has gone through this support someone who has as a major part of his philosophy the dismissal of that experience as their fault exclusively, that there is nothing in the nature of the economy that contributed to it and every government program that might have helped them should be eliminated? And don’t give me anything about the states taking care of it. In the real world the states have balanced budget requirements that result in these programs being slashed to the bone when they are needed the most. Non-ideologues know that in the real world they live in there is no such thing as job security and that because of that a reliable social safety net is needed. Paulistas and other types of libertarians would rather sneer at people who have needed that safety net and are perfectly willing to let them suffer if the private charities of the world can’t help.

By: JB

JB — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:33:20 +0000

First as to why Ron Paul has flat lined – A big part of that was the media blackout that occurred essentially after the Tim Russert interview. Definitely after the newsletters came out. At the same time McCain received hours of sympathy TV time from the old media.

Anyway, a third party run should be started after super tuesday, especially if Paul does at all well. If not Ron Paul , someone with similar views could take over that groups (though I’m at a loss as to who, Nader is too much of a regulator, and has run his course.

Or we could all move to Alaska and Secede – that idea has its charm

By: Eric Williams

Eric Williams — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:25:37 +0000

To go 3rd party now would be to leave the media spotlight (what little he gets) until the primaries are over. It would also stop a movement that could drastically change (and rescue) the Republican party. As long as he has the money and volunteers, I think he should go all the way to the convention. He’d possibly gain respect for going the distance. The ideal scenario would be a brokered convention, though that now appears less likely. A good scenario would include the GOP giving Dr. Paul a chance to speak at the convention. This campaign is more than a presidential candidate or a cult of personality. It’s about reversing decades of bad GOP policies and actions. It’s about giving a voice to the disenfranchised. It’s about supporting legislative candidates in Dr. Paul’s mold (e.g., Murray Sabrin in NJ). Win or lose, speech or no speech, when the convention is over is the time to consider a 3rd party run. When Republican voters can see how their party has been stolen from them, and when Democrats see that their historic decision between a woman and a black man was really a choice between two people unqualified and/or unfit for the presidency, Dr. Paul can announce a 3rd party bid (preferably as a true Independent). He’d be a spoiler for both parties, though perhaps for different reasons. In the meantime, the revolution must go on in the GOP primaries. We must try to fix the system from within before leaving it behind. It’s the responsible and ethical thing to do. It’s the patriotic thing to do.

By: wj

wj — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:05:37 +0000

What interests me is the number of voters I am encountering who are Ron Paul supporters . . . but not even close to being conservatives. I think, for example, of the one who has been known to remark “Barbara Boxer is a moderate. Or was, until she was coopted by the Establishment.” This is a conservative??? But for the first time in her life, she registered as a Republican this year, just so she could vote for Paul.

A movement like this could remake the Republican Party — in a couple of decades. Or it could start a third party, and displace one of today’s two major parties in a couple of General Election cycles. But it will not change the world in a year. As Justin says, “ain’t gonna happen.” So start thinking know about which approach you want to put your time and effort into.

By: Bob D

Bob D — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:44:22 +0000

Justin, Did you miss the MSM non-event, the Caucuses in Maine? 19% with real people choosing not MSM shills. No I don’t think you forgot, I give you more credit than that. You chose to ignore. You know, one of those MSM shill Justin Gardner news blackouts.

By: Brian

Brian — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:40:00 +0000

Ron Paul outlasted Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, Tommy Thompson, James Gilmore, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, Tom Tancredo, Duncan Hunter, John Edwards, Bill Richardson…

He may even outlast Mitt Romney after Super Tuesday, because even Romney isn’t dumb enough to pour millions of his own money into a sinkhole.

So go ahead and laugh all you want Justin, 20 years from now future Republicans are going to call themselves Ron Paul Republicans. He’ll be fondly remembered as Reagan is now. Who’s going to remember Mitt Romney? John McCain after he gets his ass handed to him by Clinton or Obama? BWAHAHAHA – RON PAUL IS GOING TO HAVE THE LAST LAUGH BABY!!

All thanks to the Stupid GOP Party who allowed independents and liberals to cross-over into their primaries and pick the weakest Republican for the Democrats. The primary process needs to be totally overhauled, start holding the first Republican primaries in REPUBLICAN states such as Utah and Texas so the most conservative candidate can be chosen. Also, the Republican Party needs to start talking about the basics again. Low taxes, less government, fiscal responsibility, and end to perpetual war. This is what Ron Paul has been preaching but the dumb ass party ignores it and now wants conservatives to get behind John McLame. Forget it – I’ll be doing yard work come this fall’s general election, and when Hillary takes office and starts taking away your guns and freedom don’t come crying to me.

By: Zachariah

Zachariah — Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:25:01 +0000

Interesting. Ron Paul’s support certainly hasn’t flat lined in IL. 1 month ago he was polling at 3% – now he’s polling at 10%. What you call a flat-line, I call triple growth. Keep trying though. =o)
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