The Lawrence case just shows how much you approve of activist federal judges and how little you understand the Constitution. Oops, I forget…you have moved fully into the stupid camp with Huckleberry so ignorance is no longer an excuse. My wife is an RN and former Director of Surgery for a local hospital and other than my own personal knowledge with my brother she says you are one of the many ill-informed that will ruin our health care with the Universal healthcare promoted by the stupid. (see Obama, Hillary and even a few democon RINO).

I will summarize since I won’t respond to you anymore and leave you with one last opportunity to get informed on your own.

You think the Federal governemnt has the responsibility and duty to allow gay sex, allow federally funded abortion on demand, allow criminal aliens the right to assemble and protest our government, outlaw drugs, be influenced by business lobbists, and create money out of thin air regardless of what the individual citizens and states might feel about it. In an effort to be fair to a few you are unfair to many. The contraddiction is not lost on me but is oblivious to you. Feel good policy is dangerous and unhealthy for a nation.

I won’t ask you anymore questions since you are unable to answer even one, so I will give you statements and if you are a peson of integrity you will understand…but I have no more doubt about you as an individual.

The ‘People’ in the preamble of our Constitution is not all inclusive for everyone on the planet but is limited to legal citizens/residents of the United States. Grasping that concept will go a long way in your ideological rehabilitation.

The 1st Amendment does not permit millions of criminal illegal foreign nationals the right to assemble and protest our government like they have in the recent past. The 1st Amendment does not permit Congress from telling a local courthouse or school it cannot display religious symbols or have prayer even if they receive federal funds. (…or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…)

Congress does not have the authority to limit my 2nd Amendment rights.

The 4th Amendment does not apply to non-US citizens but only to the US authority executing any searches and is extended only by proxy in that regard because of the lawfull limitations put on the US citizen. This is important in understanding how offensive the Patriot Act really is, but you have shown a remarkable ability to not understand…which is why you are keeping company with H-berry in Camp Stupid.

The 14th Amendment does not permit birthright citizenship for criminal illegal aliens, but was intended to make citizens those human beings that were brought here as slaves It also does not protect gay sex..or any sex…in the privacy of the home. It just isn’t there. You think the states don’t have the authority to legistlate morality but the federal goivernment does? (rhetorical) Stealing and murder are moral codes, and so is cheating at business and polluting your neighbors property. I woul dtell you to understand why states have jurisdiction in these cases which makes the other moral issue a state, not federal issue..but since you are on the bench with H-berry…I need not bother.

The 16th Amendment was not fully or legally ratified and is in conflict with Article 1, Section 9, Clause 4. Yea, I know your tired response already.

Whatever part you don’t like about Article 1, Section 10 regarding gold and silver is a personal opinion. Forgive me that I don’t take your word on why a fiat money system run by a private bank is better than sound money as prescribed by the Constitution.

I have answered every one of your illogical statements and you have answered none of my pertanent ones. Debating you is like debating Moslems- logic and reason do not sink in. For Moslems it is becasue their false prophet was a criminal idiot influenced by a demon so at least I know why they say and do what they do. For people like you I can only associate an irrational fear and a twisted sense of social justice to your ideology as if Robin Hood must be made a saint to justify a forced redistribution of wealth that can never be just or equal no matter the intent.

You are intellectually dishonest. Just say you don’t agree with the Constitution and be done with it. Move to the EU and leave my county and Constituion alone.

Why not educate yourself about his views on religion before speaking? That puts you in the stupid category since you don’t understand the First Amendment. Well, you could still be ignorant. I don’t want to jump the gun on you there. Huckabee is clearly stupid.

What about unemployment insurance? What if people live in flood plains or where earthquakes and tornados strike, hail stoms, forrest fires, hurricanes….there are a untold number of ways to fail and need help and none of them are the federal govenments businees in making some special coverage to bail out peoples choices.

My brother is 100% disabled after an industrial accident. Please say a prayer for him but I do not want the government to tax your income and rob you of what is yours to help him. I am sure you have enough of your own trials. If his insurance company lived up to its written obligations, and congress was not in teh businees of deciding what treatment his HMO was limited to early on the extent of his braindamage might be much less than it is which is degenerative. The 3rd degree burns from steam over 40% of his body have healed. Say a prayer for my two nephews in Iraq right now fighting for your $3/gal gas and keeping the monster in the closet.

Have you botherd to think if you had 30% more of your paycheck you might give more directly to those cause you champion or personal needs of your own rather than force it from others? The state you live in might ask for more becasue you stopped sending it to DC to send back to you with numerious restrictions, so your schools and roads might be better than they are. No, of course you haven’t. That would mean you must rely on yourself and your neighbor and that is too scary for you.

You obviously fear your neighbor more than you trust yourself. Why do you fear me? I am your neighbor. If you need help, ask, don’t force it from me. I will help if I can if the need is just.

You trust the goverment to manage the the insurance and medical companies rather then exclude the middleman and hold them accountable yourself. My brothe ris not fighting his insurance company, he is fighting the govenment mandated restriction placed on them, lobbied by them. Why do you not see that error?

You likely want a raise in the minimum wage because no one should be poor, but fail to realize the costs go up becasue the wages go up and other than now higher paying fast food jobs and selling Chinese goods in Wal-marl our real jobs will go overseas or to the illegal immigrants at lower actual cost but billed at the federal mandated wages he will make legal becasue he is compassionate…like you pretend to be.

How compassionate is taking my money by force to perform abortions, or do research on a endangered mouse in AZ? What good is the FDA and what would be different if the milk you bought was not as advertised?

Nothing is simple about this which is why I am giving you still, the benefit of the doubt. Only when you know the truth and then deny it do you become stupid and no longer ignorant.

And to your continued old century modernity conflict you seem to think so important. There is something about a sound tradition and ideological foundation that is not to be ignored, or done so at our peril. The Created gift of our personal liberty and sovereign right of our nationality is not the conflct or obstacle you seem to think it is. When trouble strikes and disater comes it is only by that sense and responsibility of the individual to overcome it, not by looking to some power in Washington DC. Gold was steady for nearly 500 years and was the reason we based the monetary ssystem on it. For that stability. The problem is not with gold. The problem is with its cost manipulation. You might think it antiquated, but I will sell you my loaf of bread for a gold coin rather than an IOU. The dollar used to be backed by it and it ment something. Now what backs it?

You are rapidly moving into the stupid category. Be carefull.

I’m not a libertarian and never will be. You see, you’re a moron. You think you understand the Constitution and its writers and you know nothing about the history they knew or their perspectives on it. You’re not bright enough to figure out that this isn’t the 18th or 19th century and that things have changed so radically that what worked then doesn’t work now. You think that Ron Paul knows economics when in fact he has never studied the subject except to be introduced to the fruitcake school of thought that is the “Austrian School” and decide that he liked it and that he didn’t need any exposure to any other thoughts on the subject. Since Paul thinks it you undoubtedly thing the gold standard is the answer to our prayers without a clue as to the inherent weaknesses in it and how those weaknesses compare to our current system.

You moan about the preacher that I despise yet you apparently don’t know that Ron Paul has absolutely no problem with everything Huckabee wants to do in the name of religion as long as it’s done at the state level instead of the federal government.

You offer up BS sound bites like opposing welfare and the nanny state. Is any welfare too much welfare? What about unemployment insurance? What about the disabled? Have you bothered to investigate enough to know that the private charities that Ron Paul says we can count on once those evil government programs are gone know that they don’t have enough resources now much less if you eliminated every government aid program? Of course you haven’t.

Ron Paul and his followers are just one more example of wanting simple, easy answers to complex questions. It’s also crap.

“the congressman and candidate who might as well not be there.”

But he is and I am greatfull. I do not understand the gleefull exoiriation of his fate from the likes of you, or the obvious oversight by most all media. If he is so insignificant to you why are you dancing on his grave? Would you punch a Boy Scout in the face? Talking about the weird Mormom religion is taboo; but a strict, reasoned understanding and public record of our Constitution is mocked not only socialy encouraged but media driven. Jerk.

Talking about the dangerous Mohammedean religion is taboo unless qualified to ‘radicals’. Give money ( I see this as jiyza tribute) to those Moslem governments that help us protect us from ourselves. Jac**ss.

Not seeing or caring what the left hand was doing we go with the right hand in Iraq to fight the ‘radicals’ in an offesive war in the name of terrorism and security of our national interests- which is oil- which is exploited by those in business in our country as well as others. I am sure there is nothing connected there to be worried about, but there sure was with Saddam and Al-qaeda to start a war. We have gangs in LA, Chicago, NY… that are violent yet we do not drop bombs on our cities. Hypocrite.

The only way you are not a hypocrite is if you think we should fight a war and have our soldiers die for energy from the middle east. If you believe the oil in Iraq at nearly $100 bbl is worth the cost in life and property just so we can take the fight to this terrible ‘radical’ enemy then I apologize. That just means you are stupid or ignorant.

The more you post the more I will know.

So we disagree apparently on foreign policy since all the ‘frontrunners’ on both sides are no where near Paul in policy. Getting out of Iraq is only part of it.

Social issues, taxes, and common sense. Whom do you support and why? Do you like the preacher who would like to change the Constitution to be more like Scripture and build a highway along the east coast and west coast to make jobs and lessen time spent in traffic, and/or the respected POW Senator that honestly does not intend to secure the border and will let run our enonomy the private bank called the Fed?

I will assume you don’t like the welfare, nanny-state (Baracillary supports supporting Moslem dictators too, continue the WOD, and globalization) the Dems offer so let’s stick with the RINO unless you say otherwise. Who are you rootin’ for, Jim/Justin? Why? What beacon of light do you see? Who will fight the ‘radicals’ for you and make America strong? I’d bet you $1 you can’t argue the yellow brick road to emerald city with any of those candidates, but it’s not worth as much anymore so I am just whislin past the graveyard.

FJH
http://brushfires2008.com/2008/02/05/dont-blame-me-i-voted-for-ron-paul-bumper-sticker/

That’s fine if Paul is not nominated. Honestly, I don’t care and knew that hi chances were slim to begin with. What he has done though, is brought some serious issues into the spotlight. People are questioning the legitimacy of the Federal Reserve. THE FEDERAL RESERVE! There are over 500,000 YouTube views for that “Ron Paul OWNZED the Federal Reserve” clip. He has cast a street lamp on the GOP and the sycophants (FreeRepublic, Redstate, Rush, Hannity, Coulter) who cheer lead them at every turn and drag out the Hillary boogewoman if we don’t vote for the R. You can call us all the names you want, but my vote goes to Dr. Paul and I don’t care if it causes Hillary to be nominated.

Introduction of Dr Ron Paul at CPAC by Congressman Bob Barr:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8AIuJJRZo

Dr Ron Paul at CPAC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaD9oM4xQo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlUc8ip5hc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaZsAeMKFo

I voted for Nader in 2000 and Peroutka in 2004 to protest the corrupt two-party system. Looking back on 8 years of Bush and the evil he and his puppet masters have wrought, I now regret my 2004 vote for certain, and possibly my 2000 vote. If 2008 comes down to Hillary vs. McCain, though, I really can’t see a difference worth voting for/against. With Obama vs. McCain, I might be able to hold my nose and vote for Obamalamadingdong. He can’t be as bad as McInsane or Her.

This has, is, and always will be about changing the course of America. Either with Dr. Paul at the helm or without. Dr Paul has been saying the same things need to change for the last 30 years. Finally he has a place to shout it from where more than just the people who watch C-Span have an opportunity to hear him. There are still a LOT of people out here in the real world who have never heard of him, and don’t even know who the heck he is. I wonder if that had anything to do with a media blackout? Virtually all of those people have never been introduced to his ideas, they should be. Whether or not he is going to win his bid for the Presidency at this point is unimportant, thought I personally am starting to regain some hope (crazily enough). The net result of this is hopefully to build a powerful coalition of people who believe in his message of geting gov’t out of our lives

In the standard formula, a politicians primary goal is to be re-elected, his isn’t. Anyone who continually votes against pork for his district has a political death wish, but he keeps getting re-elected by increasing margins. His constituents may not agree with him, but they trust him and his consistency. They know what they are going to get.

Most candidates who run for president are to some extent ego driven, he isn’t and shows by his lack of fear when it comes to laying it out there and letting the people decide. At a time when the country was whipped up in a patriotic fervor and hungry for war, the guy stood up and said no! He defies contemporary political dogma and in some ways is his own worst enemy because he is not a politician, he is a congressman and servant of the Constitution. He is not a political creature as the other 534 are, he is simply too genuine and too principled to pull it off. Christ the guy can’t even attack properly. I think if he tried to sling mud, his head would explode!

And herien lies the problem. In an age when we have come to expect a certain level of distortion, pandering, mud-slinging, demagoging and showmanship in presidential politics, Paul is simply too good to be true. After decades of the dog and pony show, people simply don’t know how to react to a real-deal straight shooter and a creature of principle.

Paul is not hanging on because of vanity. It was vanity that drove Romney and Guiliani from the race. As relatively successful politicians who are used to being winners, their egos couldn’t handle going the long haul and coming up short. Especially to the likes of f-ing McCain. Not to mention the future political damage they may suffer.

Paul hangs on because of principle and loyalty. He told his nobody supporters who have broken their piggy banks to support him and driven hundreds of miles and volunteered their time to campaign for him that as long as they continue to do so, he will continue to run. You have to remember that he never told us the supporters, how to campaign or when to give, he let us do it on our own which has probably done as much harm as good. He doesn’t care about his future or reputation, because his integrity won’t let him. When we stop, so will he.

Were vanity his motivation, he’d have dropped out after New Hampshire. But again it isn’t. It’s about his committment to liberty, the need to reclaim the Republican party and the need to remind the Republican party where it came from. And as I said, a feeling of obligation to the hundreds of thousands of supporters who were willing to stick their political necks out for him.

You may think I am one of the legions who are being fooled by Paul. I am not. I have no illusions about his chances of winning, nor did I from the get-go. But I have seen a decade of sincerity, integrity, common sense, principle and above all consistency to these ideals. I sometimes can’t believe myself that this guy has the stones to do and say some of the things that he does in congress. I’ve met the guy in his congressional office about the time he was starting his exploratory committee. His genuine warmth, integrity and willingness to talk one on one to some unannounced schmuck off the street who was not a constituent was unnerving. I felt like a cat having its fur stroked the wrong way, but in a good way if that’s possible. I kept waiting for my bullshit detector to go off and it wouldn’t. After five minutes it was more like I was shooting the shit with my wife’s grandfather than a federal politician.

It’s about trust. I trust him more than I would the founders because he has the record to back it up. And he trusts us or he wouldn’t eat the brownies and cookies we give him which is crazy as far as I am concerned. But it speaks to Paul’s character and nature. He is one of us, not one of them and has made a career out of proving it.