Ron Paul Won’t Back McCain
By Justin Gardner | Related entries in 2008 Election, McCain, Ron Paul
Don’t worry Ron, he didn’t want your endorsement anyway. In fact, it’ll help his conservative credentials to keep your supporters away from him.
Speaking to the Chicago Tribune, Ron Paul said he’d only support McCain for president if the Arizona senator “has a lot of change of heart” on his Iraq war stands.“I can not support anybody with the foreign policy he advocates — you know, perpetual war…I think it’s un-American, unconstitutional, immoral, and not Republican,” Paul said.
Go home Ron Paul. You were never serious in the first place.
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February 11th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Paul is the only serious one out there.
The neo-cons think this is a game.
As long as they get to play with other people’s money, and lives.
McCain Can’t win the general election. He won’t win.
Why vote for a fake liberal, when there are real ones running on side of the jackasses.
February 11th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
one thing people seem to be overlooking is all the pledged and unpledged romney people. these people have got to go somewhere. and lated not doubt the ron paul people also. where are they going? not to john mccain. they all have switched it would appear to huckabee. it ain’t over yet.
February 11th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Why are you so quick to support a candidate that even his own party doesn’t want? Nice showing this weekend for McCain… Washington was a scam. Vote percentages do not stay the EXACT same over entire counts. It’s statistically impossible.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Not a huge fan of Ron Paul, but no matter what else you say about him, he is consistent and principled.
I actually don’t understand the statement that the keeping his supporters away will help his conservative credentials. People question Ron Paul’s racial stance, they question his practicality–they even question his sanity, but most people concede his conservative principles.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
What a shitty article…
McWarlord has no Conservative credentials, by the way.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Im sure McCain will have wished he had more support from statesmen like Ron Paul when he gets his ass handed to him in the general election.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
I don’t think anyone really knows what “conservative” is supposed to mean anyway. Few words describing American politics have any real meaning, in terms of stability.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
“Don’t worry Ron, he didn’t want your endorsement anyway.”
Did John McCain say that?
February 11th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I think you’re kind of hard on Ron Paul here. It’s nice that, whether you agree with him or not, he’s sticking to his principles rather than endorsing someone whose positions he doesn’t back, just because that person belongs to the same party that he does.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:25 pm
Go home Ron Paul. You were never serious in the first place.
Yeah he’s just joking when he takes on the CIA and FBI and the IRS and the money changers at the Federal Reserve. He’s just joking when he stands up and takes on his entire party and the establishment. He’s only joking when he shows concern over the crashing dollar. He’s joking when he wants our troops defending our country instead of dying in illegal wars. He’s only joking when he wants to restore the constitutuion and our civil liberties and habeas corpus. How dare he confront such unserious issues. What a joke.
February 11th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
Ron Paul’s conservative credentials are a lot stronger than McCain’s, or Huckabee’s or Romney’s, for that matter.
Ron Paul is pro-life, pro-Constitution, pro-smaller government, anti-illegal immigration, pro-Second Amendment, anti-tax, and pro-balanced budget, and has the voting record to prove it. The only area where he differs from modern day “conservatives” is on foreign policy, but his foreign policy represents an arguably more conservative approach — avoid unnecessary wars, follow the Constitution, and stop borrowing hundreds of billions of dollars per year to defend wealthy countries like Japan, Germany, the UK, Italy, and South Korea.
From what I’ve seen of John McCain’s “support”, he could use all the help he can get. 75% of Republicans voted against him in Washington and Kansas over the weekend — not a good sign for someone who the party is supposed to rally around, now that he’s built a big delegate lead with Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, and Paul having split the conservative vote in the early states.
Ron Paul not serious? How is having 100,000 volunteers not serious? Raising $20 million in the fourth quarter to lead all Republicans? Finishing in double digits in several states and placing as high as second in a few? Defending the Constitution when no one else will?
February 11th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Congratulations for authoring the most asinine thing Ive read all day. Wow! Some of you McCain supporters display some very shallow and vindictive thinking. Lots of anger. Reflection of your candidate perhaps?
What kind of a man would RP be if he abandoned all of his integrity and principals to jump on the bandwagon of his polar opposite simply because he’s been penned “frontrunner” by a biased and dishonest media?
February 11th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Not that many modern conservatives believe in the gold standard, the elimination of the Federal Reserve and the elimination of public education. Just a few more points of disagreement there.
February 11th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
More mudslinging from crybaby Justin. As if Paul was going to endorse McCain anyway. Hell, half the base don’t want McCain (who was elected by independents and cross-over Democrats because they know he’d be the weakest GOP nominee BTW) and you got some nerve to trash Paul again. An endorsement from Paul would go against everything he has espoused in the last 35 years. You really thing he and his supporters are going to cheerfully support a political party and candidate that has trashed him and called his supporters “kooks” and white supremacists all this time? BWHAHAHA….
I know it sucks Justin, that Paul not running 3rd party and your wet dream of Hillary or Obama winning so you and your overlords in the GOP can blame Paul for the GOP’s demise ain’t working for you, but c’mon here. The more you trash Paul, the more your website fades into obscurity. All of the other candidates aren’t generating comments and hits like the Paul threads are.
February 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Craig and Brian, if Ron Paul is so purely conservative and wonderfully Republican, how is it that he’s so far behind McCain? Lack of money? Lack of volunteers? No, wait, he’s got tons of money and 100,000 volunteers.
The obvious answer is that Paul is not the person most Republicans want for president. That’s what the primaries exist to determine. It’s a test and so far, McCain is the only one who’s passing.
So, what part of “no” is beyond your capacity to understand and accept?
February 11th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Eat shit Justin…you’ve never been honest and you’ve never been a pundit.
February 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Dr. Paul was asked if he would back McCain he said no… There is no need to be a jerk about that thing… Not to mention Dr. Paul is the only candidate running on a conservative platform the Republicans stand for… McCain is the worst of the worst based on his record and love for war… Dr. Paul is a hero!
February 11th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Exactly what conservative credentials do you think John McCain posses Justin. There’s a REASON why your column is so short, because you’re short (if not empty) of REASON.
February 11th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I think Ron Paul will have the last laugh.
I guess alot of people will eat their words when the the “fringe” 6-8 percent national vote swings the election….
February 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Dr. Paul was asked if he would back McCain, he said no… There is no need to be a jerk about the thing… Not to mention Dr. Paul is the only candidate running on a conservative platform that Republicans stand for… McCain is the worst of the worst based on his record and love for war… Dr. Paul is a hero!
good argument dude. you changed my mind with your overwhelming facts…
February 11th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Wow, Justin. You’re such a badass.
February 11th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
I suppose that is why McCain himself referred to Ron Paul as the most honest man in Congress in the 80s.
The bottom line is that McCain is a Democrat in really shabby Republican clothes. Most of the Republicans I work with cannot stand him, and to my amazement have told me that now Ron Paul is looking better and better. The core of the GOP does not want McCain as the nominee.
If McCain does manage to hornswoggle his way in, I believe he will be absolutely crushed by either Democratic contender in the general election. There is so much ammunition out there about his past that what will happen to him will make the John Kerry Swift Boat situation look like a game of hopscotch.
If the GOP doesn’t wise up and nominate Ron Paul as a start to get back to true GOP conservatism, the party will fragment.
February 11th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
why you such a child about it, Justin?
Ron Paul’s changed this world more just yesterday than you’ve ever done.
February 11th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Also, if Ron Paul’s not serious, why is there at least one SERIOUS “Ron Paul Republican” running for congress in my state? I think there will be another announced soon, too.
February 11th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
Aren’t you a silly willie winkie?
February 11th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
It’s not necessary to call Ron Paul crazy or whatever. The guy and his supports believe in what he is saying. You have to admit that it is not illogical and he does have a basis for what he is saying. It seems to me that a lot of the Republicans are using the old Democrat way of doing things. Name calling and scare tactics.
So my point is, debate the issues, don’t name call.
With out using scare tactics, what don’t you like about what Ron Paul says?
February 11th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Many Republicans will not back McCain. I would vote for Huckabee or Romney as the GOP Presidential Nominee but never McCain.
Ron Paul spoke at the FreedomFest conference last year and he has been invited again this year to join our 100 plus speakers and 1,000 plus attendees in Las Vegas on July 10 -12 at Freedomfest 2008. We must do what we can to get the message of liberty, a return to limited constitutional government and free markets out to the American public. See http://www.freedomfest.com
February 11th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
“Not that many modern conservatives believe in …”
I wouldn’t call ya’ll modern conservatives, more like metro conservatives, or closet liberals… You guys killed the GOP. I didn’t leave the GOP, the GOP left me.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:15 pm
Paul was rejected by the GOP because of his wanting to leave Iraq now, and for calling the war on terror a sham. Besides that debatable issue, there is no doubt that Paul is a true conservative. He was even introduced at CPAC as the most conservative man in congress, the “gold standard of conservatism”. My first choice candidate is out, and I’m no Paultard, but Justin you make yourself look pretty dumb with this one.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
McCain has conservative credentials?!?! hahahaha…were they garnered before or after he tried to get the VP slot with Kerry? Maybe it was after voting against Bush’s tax cuts…..TWICE.
Where does this poo you call information drizzle out from? Care for a breath mint?
February 11th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Haha… are you bitter? Do you only post about Ron Paul to get hits to this site are what?
You are suggesting Ron Paul would hurt McCain’s conservative credentials? The very notion is so highly ironic.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:53 pm
The Reason Ron Paul isn’t going to win is not because the people didnt want him most people have never heard of him because he dont get much media attention because the media is biased. The media don’t want him in because they know he would be one of the best presidents this country has ever had and the media just wants to keep this never ending war going and want to keep this country an unfree country they say we are free but we are not! We are screwed if McCain gets in. I can’t support any of the other republican candidates. I wanted Ron Paul but since he isnt running as an independent I will either write his name in or vote for Obama he is the lesser of the evils that are left that have a chance unfortunately. God help this country we need help if we are too dumb not to elect Ron Paul as president.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
John Mccain wouldn’t know what conservative values are if it jumped over a 8 foot border fence and hit him on the head.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
Go home paul you were never serious in the first place.
Justin, you know he is. He hasn’t dropped out. He’s still hanging in there to get his message out there. I find it interesting that you turned on him, tarred and feathered him, and then accuse him of not being serious. Who are you trying to convince, us or yourself. Hey, if I had trashed Ron Paul in a knee jerk reaction the way you did, I might say the same thing. Hell, if my concience was really hurting, I might even sound as pouty and defensive as you. But my conscience is clear, and I really have no business ascribing a concience to you one way or the other. You could just as easily be acting this way because youre a jerk.(Or you really really dislike Ron Paul).Tell me Justin, when are you going to put McCain under the same microscope you put Ron Paul under? Prejudice is very much alive and well in McCain. It never was in Paul.
February 11th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Thanks for bringing more media attention to Ron Paul.
Why is it an issue that Ron Paul will never endorse Mac? They are like night and day; what did you expect…a grand ol’ party Atta Boy? Nothing is going to help Mac’s conservative credentials because he has annilated them himself. Why did you think CPAC booed him? Ron Paul’s voting history in Congress makes that painfully obvious; Ron Paul blows him out of the water on conservative issues, crystal clear- even in their positions on the major issues of the campaign:
(Mac) Pro-Iraq war / Pro-amensty / I got people, no to bush’s tax cuts-economics / entitlements?-We can borrow more money from China (Sounds like the spending policy of a Liberal, not a conservative?)
vs.
(Paul) Anti-Iraq war / Anti-amensty / I have an actual plan to stop inflation and understand how to accomplish that-economics / Phase out entitlements
(Read the Republican platform. No where in the platform do I find it states we should keep spending to continue wars for 100 years if need be, bomb countries that haven’t invaded our country, or pay for entitlement benefits for illegals, sounds a little liberal to me.)
Mac is sinking his own ship with the conservatives. Don’t take it out on RP or his supporters.
The guy writing this blurp is even getting nasty about it. The pressure is on; we are a handy bunch estimated by the media at 6% of the Republican party. The Republican party wants to keep our votes, not nice for Dear Abby to wish away Republican presidental candidates. RP supporters can’t help that Mac is just destined to take a swan dive in front of the conservatives. That isn’t our problem. Why should RP supporters make this any easier for Mac by staying away? Perhaps we publicly hold him accountable for his non-conservative actions…eh? This isn’t a carousel this is a race.
Keep watching and laughing……..see who laughs last.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Paul endorsing McCain would hurt Paul’s conservative credentials.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
your’e a douche.
February 12th, 2008 at 1:16 am
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Hell. *I* was serious…. And so were all those other freedom-loving Americans who gave him six million dollars on the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party. It isn’t easy to watch my fellow citizens flush my country down the dumper on live TV.
February 12th, 2008 at 1:22 am
S.W. Anderson Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Craig and Brian, if Ron Paul is so purely conservative and wonderfully Republican, how is it that he’s so far behind McCain? Lack of money? Lack of volunteers? No, wait, he’s got tons of money and 100,000 volunteers.
The obvious answer is that Paul is not the person most Republicans want for president. That’s what the primaries exist to determine. It’s a test and so far, McCain is the only one who’s passing.
So, what part of “no†is beyond your capacity to understand and accept?
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Well, let me see … There’s the total media blackout, the exclusion from televisied debates, the complete and inexcusable disparity of talktime given in those he was in, telephone polling scripts that didnt include any mention of him, shameless inclusion of candidates being soundly beaten by RP instead of him, total negative exposure in sound bytes, improper planting of slanted pundits on televised panels following televised debates to project negative views, slanted, biased and unfair news coverage by major outlets, and so on and so on …
Oh! and about the money … thats the most remarkable part of the whole Ron Paul experience … in total, to date “we the people” …. not “Ron Paul for President” … but, lemme say it again slowly, so your little single cell brain can absorb it, ” w e t h e p e o p l e” …. a grassroots coalition of supporters from all walks of life and from all socio-economic backgrounds, religions, occupations, varied degrees of education, political backgrounds, you name it, we’ve got it, have showered Dr. Paul with more than
$ 28,000,000.00 in hope! And we’ve given it freely, $20,
$50, and $100 at a time, without the promise or expectation of anything in return except the opportunity to say we tried to do what was right for our country, for ourselves and for our grand children. That for once, in our lifetimes, we had been given a glimmer of hope, a whisper of truth, and a candidate who was at last deserving of our vote, a man who stood alone as a symbol of greatness as a giver of life to so many, a man who has already lived the American dream and a man who has served his country, proudly, for more than 30 years. If that makes him or us worthy of your impish and childish ridicule, then so be it. But there is one thing that will never change, regardless of what anyone says, and that is that Ron Paul’s words, not false promises, not lies, not political mumbo jumbo, just his words, inspired an untold number of Americans, from age of 18 to 80, and gave us a reason to come awake. And I’ll leave you with this … whatever is the outcome of this election, whatever is the future of our great country, whatever is to happen to mankind, I pray that there truly is a loving God, of and for all men, and that he has mercy upon all of our souls!
February 12th, 2008 at 1:46 am
Get real..Ron Paul is conservative. McCain is a liberal, everyone knows thaat. They just rally behind him because he is more well-known thus having a better chance against the democrats.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:32 am
As an onlooker to the coming US election, and being a UK resident I have been very interested in the politics of so called ‘conservative’ republicans and their motives.
I have researched extensively, the voting records and ‘flip flop’ records of each republican candidate (being a right winger) and it is obvious to me that John McCain is a fraud (another puppet of the global elite as are democrats Clinton & Obama) and will only serve to destroy – even further – the constitution and civil liberties, not only of Americans, but of hundreds of millions of other people around the world.
In my opinion the only consistent candidate on both sides here has to be Ron Paul. I have to say that the media blackout on Ron Paul has been very unfair, in the UK we have laws to prevent media companies from taking sides during elections (for what good they do I don’t know).
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT!!
February 12th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Wow, I usually like this blog and considered it at least fair. Someone has some serious issues and must have their panties in a wad today. There isn’t a snowballs chance in hell that I will vote McCain. I’ll stay home before I support him. I used to be a fan, but the Straight Talk Express became the Lying, Say Anything to Get Elected, Amnesty Loving Brown Nose Express at some point during the last 8 years.
February 12th, 2008 at 9:12 am
Hey, finally one of you fucking Einsteins figured it out. JG has been like a RP crack-dealer for months now and you can’t get enough. All he has to do is say: He’s Great or He Sucks and you all come flocking to the most vacuous commentary on the internets and post equally inane comments.
Good Job JG. I personally applaud the effort — it has been fun to watch. I’m chalking this post up to having to ratchet things up a little, because RPs following is sobering up.
RON PAUL IS A F-ING RACIST GOAT-ROPING SCUM BAG!! (I’ll do my part)…
February 12th, 2008 at 9:28 am
So… you’re saying you LIKE perpetual war…
If that is being a conservative, I don’t know where I’ve been for the past 28 years. I was under the apparently mistaken impression that conservatives were for smaller government, lower taxes, fiscal responsibility, and less regulation.
You, and GW Bush have proven me wrong. Like Dubya just said, McCain is a “true” conservative. Up is down. War is peace. Slavery is freedom. I get it now!
February 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am
>>Not that many modern conservatives believe in the gold standard, the >>elimination of the Federal Reserve and the elimination of public education. >>Just a few more points of disagreement there.
Paul is not against public education only Federal interference with it. Also many modern conservatives don’t understand economic policies and what our current policies are doing to America. How can you be conservative and advocate creating all the money you want and need out of thin air, what are you conserving with that?
February 12th, 2008 at 11:22 am
My my, seems like Mr. Gardner has an inferiority complex when it comes to his candidate being worthy of public support, raising money, or actually having a message worth repeating. Must be rough having to run down another group just to make oneself feel better.
February 12th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Who’s the one who’s not serious?
If this author truly thinks McCain has “conservative credentials” to maintain and that the principled stances of Dr. Paul would damage them, he has truly and greedily imbibed the koolaid.
What’s next? Will Paul annoyingly disrupt Hillary’s conservative credentials too? lol.
The nation as a whole will get what we deserve by ignoring Paul.
Hillary and McCain can fight it out as to who can best maintain perpetual warfare longer and who will create the largest debt and deficits the fastest.
February 12th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
conservative vs liberal
live vs Memorex
tastes great vs less filling
I don’t care about credentials so much as I care that McCain is a warmongering douchebag who hasn’t a bloody clue about economics. He’ll bankrupt us with war and send us up a creek without a paddle when the bills come due. He’s a big government, self-serving, belligerent SOB who doesn’t deserve to be within a parsec of the oval office. Don’t give me the war hero BS, either. He graduated near the bottom of his Naval Academy class, crashed his plane a couple times due to his poor flying skills, and got shot down. Granted, what was done to him in captivity was absolutely despicable. That, however, makes him pitiable, not a hero. Besides, even if he was a war hero, that wouldn’t automatically qualify him to for commander in chief of the armed forces, let alone any other presidential duties. Bravery in action doesn’t make one a strategist. Getting promoted to admiral would have helped him in that regard.
He was a poor soldier and he’s a poor excuse for a respectable presidential candidate. God help us all if he wins.
February 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
It must be that time of month for JG. Have you considered Midol for those times in the primary season when you just want to kill someone.
February 12th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
David, you’re an idiot. I never claimed to be a conservative or a Republican. I think both are distinctly lacking in intelligence, having substituted ideology in its place. I base my comment purely on observation, not a sense of belonging.
dddienst, I’m tired of Liars for Ron Paul. Or are you so foolish that you don’t know the truth about your hero? You bet he’s against public education. If he isn’t then why is he prominently listed as a signer of the declaration of the Alliance for the Separation of School and State?
February 12th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Sorry, missed part of it. They further state
Notice that it’s not just the federal government they want out of education. And Ron Paul signed their proclamation.
February 12th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
“Craig and Brian, if Ron Paul is so purely conservative and wonderfully Republican, how is it that he’s so far behind McCain? Lack of money? Lack of volunteers? No, wait, he’s got tons of money and 100,000 volunteers.”
I answered that question already. Independents and crossover Democrats voted for McCain because he was the weakest Republican in the field. Plus McCain is loved by the liberal media. You think they’re going to be behind McCain after the general election? They’re going to turn on him like a rabid snake.
February 12th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Actually Paul lost big time in states where Independents voted for Obama and no Democrats crossed over. He also lost big in states where only Republicans could take part in both primaries and caucuses. Next excuse?
February 14th, 2008 at 8:11 am
# chris Says:
February 11th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
Paul endorsing McCain would hurt Paul’s conservative credentials.
Well said Chris!
Should McCain win the election, I can only see the US carrying on in the same direction….. WAR, WAR more WAR and, you guessed it, more unconstitutional WAR.
Get with the program guys, the reason that the mainstream media have practically ignored Rep Paul is ‘exactly’ because he stands for all the things against the grain of greedy self serving global elitist’s.
If you as a country fail to grasp firmly with both hands the blessing that is Ron Paul, then I am afraid that you deserve everything that is coming to you. POLICE STATE USA!!