The rules of the game are the freakin’ rules of the game. If Obama cant get enough total delegates than tough. Same for Clinton…especially when she talks about the Michigan and Florida non-delegates.

The truth is Clinton’s base of support among lower income and blue collar workers IS disadvantaged by the spate of caucuses that Obama’s more well heeled supports can dominate, so Obama has a built in advantage (particularly in Republican dominated states), and he has played that for all its worth. Good on him. But Clinton, because of her ties to the establishment has an advantage in the Superdelegates and she is playing that for all its worth. Good on her.

To say that if Clinton wins on the strength of SUperdelegates she “stole” anything is complete and utter BS. If the Dems dont like the system they can change it next time.

mw is correct of course, it is not a democratic process, it’s just one which allows some voter interaction. Superdelegates _are_ part of the current process, and if you can’t accept that since it’s too undemocratic for you then you have no right offering an alternative view (that of pledged delegate count being all) that is just as undemocratic. Let us not forget that many of those superdelegates hold their positions because of the will of the people who elected them to a role which came with superdelegate status attached.

Barak Obama continues to win in states that have and always have been GOP bastions. I wonder why that is given the fact that the GOP will do anything to make sure Hillary is not the Nominee or the next president.

Does anyone thing that Obama will pull out a stunning landslide victory where his wins are coming in GOP states while loosing to Hillary in Traditionally Democratic States.

You are writing off Hillary and the fact of the matter is that as of today the official committed delegate count stands at.

Obama 1276
Clinton 1233.

Big wins in those 3 states Hillary is banking on will put her in the lead and more importantly it will read this next line closely:

Put her in the win with the states that are going to vote Democrat. If Obama is in the lead his lead is because he has won Idaho, Utah, Alabama, Georga. Places where the GOP WILL win come november.

I do not see Hillary’s demise and I do not see honestly how Hillary will not win the nomination. But for a further analysis see the following web link.

Barak Obama? Electable.

http://bobaggins.wordpress.com/

I ask again, has Obama won? - JG

And I’ll answer again. NO.

But I will grant you he has the inside track.

Here is the scenario how Clinton could win: She must win Ohio and Texas. She does not have to overtake Obama in overall delegates or popular votes (whatever that means when so many states are actually caucuses and not votes, and Michigan and Florida are not seated). If she wins both of those states (she might have to win Pennsylvania too). She makes the very plausible case that she won in all the BIG STATES (except Obama’s home state Illinois) plus one must consider all the people that voted for her in Michigan and Florida, regardless of whether they are seated. These are all states that the Dems MUST WIN in November to win the white house. That provides political cover for the super delegates to support Clinton. It is a plausible argument. Even if Obama has a plurality in pledged delegates and the popular vote.

Is it a subversion of a purely democratic process? Yes. But nobody has ever said that at any point in its history the Democratic Party nomination for President was a purely democratic process. Ever. Full Stop. It just isn’t. You can argue whether it should be, but it cannot be argued that it is, or it ever has been. The closest it ever came was the McGovern nomination, which - interestingly, was the single biggest defeat in Democratic Party Presidential election history.

So there you are. If it is close, lets say within 150 delegates, it is a tie. If it is a tie, the superdelegates pick the nominee.

If Obama wins Texas or Ohio, the Clinton argument and political cover for the superdelegates falls apart, and at that point Obama has won. But not yet, and it does not matter what happens in Wisconsin. Ohio and Texas will tell the tale.

It ain’t over ’til it’s over.

It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings. (Yeah, but WHICH ONE?? ;p )

Obama hasn’t won–but at this point, it’s his to lose.

He could always do something stupid and… “Jacobellis” the whole thing!