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	<title>Comments on: Is the Clinton campaign undead?</title>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391982</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordo,
Ok. But if someone told me that I &lt;i&gt;&quot;should&quot;&lt;/i&gt; do something - I&#039;d assume they were giving me advice. Unless they were threatening me. It&#039;s all in the inflection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordo,<br />
Ok. But if someone told me that I <i>&#8220;should&#8221;</i> do something &#8211; I&#8217;d assume they were giving me advice. Unless they were threatening me. It&#8217;s all in the inflection.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391981</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim S,
My point, is that winning those three states changes the game, no matter what the margin. 

If Obama still has more delegates after losing three big states in a row, but is still within a 150-200 delegates, then its a tie. The Superdelegates can, will and should decide.  that is there job. That is why they exist, to make the best decision for the Democratic Party. 

Clinton will have a great argument to make to the superdelegates, that she is the best candidate for the Dems in November, based on that finish. You can agree with it or not, but it is a good argument. If she takes those three states, I think she wins that argument and the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim S,<br />
My point, is that winning those three states changes the game, no matter what the margin. </p>
<p>If Obama still has more delegates after losing three big states in a row, but is still within a 150-200 delegates, then its a tie. The Superdelegates can, will and should decide.  that is there job. That is why they exist, to make the best decision for the Democratic Party. </p>
<p>Clinton will have a great argument to make to the superdelegates, that she is the best candidate for the Dems in November, based on that finish. You can agree with it or not, but it is a good argument. If she takes those three states, I think she wins that argument and the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391974</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question isn&#039;t limited to whether she can win Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but how much she&#039;d win them by if she did win. Since it isn&#039;t winner take all that makes a big difference. Obama won Missouri, but by such a slim margin that the delegates were evenly split.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question isn&#8217;t limited to whether she can win Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, but how much she&#8217;d win them by if she did win. Since it isn&#8217;t winner take all that makes a big difference. Obama won Missouri, but by such a slim margin that the delegates were evenly split.</p>
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		<title>By: gordo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391970</link>
		<dc:creator>gordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam--

If I thought Clinton was the best choice, I wouldn&#039;t give Bill&#039;s extracurricular activities a second thought. After all, I supported him back in 1992 even after he admitted to having affairs. So why wouldn&#039;t I back someone who&#039;s never been credibly charged with adultery?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam&#8211;</p>
<p>If I thought Clinton was the best choice, I wouldn&#8217;t give Bill&#8217;s extracurricular activities a second thought. After all, I supported him back in 1992 even after he admitted to having affairs. So why wouldn&#8217;t I back someone who&#8217;s never been credibly charged with adultery?</p>
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		<title>By: gordo</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391969</link>
		<dc:creator>gordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Do you really believe the Clintonâ€™s are so stupid as to think that publishing that picture would change votes?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, they thought that their ridiculous plagiarism charge would work, so I&#039;d have to say yes, they are that stupid. Tellingly, the Clinton campaign failed to issue a denial.

And I don&#039;t know if you could say I was offering advice. I was pointing out that an ethical person would not use the tactics that the Clinton campaign has stooped to in recent days. So in this case, I&#039;m using &quot;should&quot; to make a point about ethics, which isn&#039;t the same thing as giving advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Do you really believe the Clintonâ€™s are so stupid as to think that publishing that picture would change votes?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, they thought that their ridiculous plagiarism charge would work, so I&#8217;d have to say yes, they are that stupid. Tellingly, the Clinton campaign failed to issue a denial.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t know if you could say I was offering advice. I was pointing out that an ethical person would not use the tactics that the Clinton campaign has stooped to in recent days. So in this case, I&#8217;m using &#8220;should&#8221; to make a point about ethics, which isn&#8217;t the same thing as giving advice.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391962</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordo,
Just to further set the record straight, my exact quote in the post...

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;Hillary Clinton is also getting a lot of advice. Gordo advises that â€œClinton should back offâ€ and Jonathon Alter at Newsweek wants her to â€œget out nowâ€œ. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

... is completely consistent with your statement. I did not say you were calling for her to drop out. I did say that Alter was calling for her to drop out.

That said, you did use the &quot;stick a fork in her campaign&quot; phrase in that post. 

Also I&#039;d point you to my comment on Justin&#039;s &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/give-clinton-the-benefit-of-the-doubt-for-obama-muslim-smear/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;give Clinton the benefit of the doubt&lt;/a&gt;&quot; post regarding bloggers buying hook, line, and sinker into the Obama campaign&#039;s much more effective smear of the Clinton campaign over this truly stupid picture.  Do you really believe the Clinton&#039;s are so stupid as to think that publishing that picture would change votes? On the other hand, smearing the Clinton campaign as sleazy will change votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordo,<br />
Just to further set the record straight, my exact quote in the post&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;Hillary Clinton is also getting a lot of advice. Gordo advises that â€œClinton should back offâ€ and Jonathon Alter at Newsweek wants her to â€œget out nowâ€œ. &#8220;</i></p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230; is completely consistent with your statement. I did not say you were calling for her to drop out. I did say that Alter was calling for her to drop out.</p>
<p>That said, you did use the &#8220;stick a fork in her campaign&#8221; phrase in that post. </p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d point you to my comment on Justin&#8217;s &#8220;<a href="http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/give-clinton-the-benefit-of-the-doubt-for-obama-muslim-smear/" rel="nofollow">give Clinton the benefit of the doubt</a>&#8221; post regarding bloggers buying hook, line, and sinker into the Obama campaign&#8217;s much more effective smear of the Clinton campaign over this truly stupid picture.  Do you really believe the Clinton&#8217;s are so stupid as to think that publishing that picture would change votes? On the other hand, smearing the Clinton campaign as sleazy will change votes.</p>
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		<title>By: PulSamsara</title>
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		<dc:creator>PulSamsara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton&#039;s campaign has become a Sleaze Factory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton&#8217;s campaign has become a Sleaze Factory.</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391954</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, /snark_on !  But yeah, anyone who counts a Clinton out of a political contest should watch his/her/its back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, /snark_on !  But yeah, anyone who counts a Clinton out of a political contest should watch his/her/its back.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question I&#039;ve wondered about HRC is how will she make sure Bill&#039;s pants stay around his waist and not his ankles if she&#039;s elected President? 

I can only imagine the honeypots that would be dangled in front of Bill by Republicans, let alone any country that wants to embarrass the USA. Or is that an issued that isn&#039;t of concern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question I&#8217;ve wondered about HRC is how will she make sure Bill&#8217;s pants stay around his waist and not his ankles if she&#8217;s elected President? </p>
<p>I can only imagine the honeypots that would be dangled in front of Bill by Republicans, let alone any country that wants to embarrass the USA. Or is that an issued that isn&#8217;t of concern?</p>
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		<title>By: gordo</title>
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		<dc:creator>gordo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to set the record straight, the &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liberalavenger.com/2008/02/20/clinton-should-back-off/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Clinton Should Back Off&lt;/a&gt; &quot; post does not call for Clinton to drop out of the race. It calls on her to stop launching baseless attacks against Obama (and, I would now add, stop &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.liberalavenger.com/2008/02/25/clinton-campaign-circulates-obama-smear-photo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;circulating photos&lt;/a&gt; meant to emphasize his ethnicity and alleged Muslim ties), and it calls on her to refrain from courting delegates who have been pledged to Obama.

Clinton&#039;s tactics are very divisive, and they&#039;ll greatly hurt the party if she continues. If she wins the nomination with her Swift Boat tactics, then she&#039;ll have a much harder time fighting for the changes that we need to make in order to clean up the mess left behind by the Bush administration. So if she can win on the issues, fine. But she should back off from the strategy of using unfounded attacks and backroom deals to win the nomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to set the record straight, the &#8220;<a href="http://www.liberalavenger.com/2008/02/20/clinton-should-back-off/" rel="nofollow">Clinton Should Back Off</a> &#8221; post does not call for Clinton to drop out of the race. It calls on her to stop launching baseless attacks against Obama (and, I would now add, stop <a href="http://www.liberalavenger.com/2008/02/25/clinton-campaign-circulates-obama-smear-photo/" rel="nofollow">circulating photos</a> meant to emphasize his ethnicity and alleged Muslim ties), and it calls on her to refrain from courting delegates who have been pledged to Obama.</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s tactics are very divisive, and they&#8217;ll greatly hurt the party if she continues. If she wins the nomination with her Swift Boat tactics, then she&#8217;ll have a much harder time fighting for the changes that we need to make in order to clean up the mess left behind by the Bush administration. So if she can win on the issues, fine. But she should back off from the strategy of using unfounded attacks and backroom deals to win the nomination.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391947</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well - I&#039;m not sure what Saudi Arabia and Marilyn Manson have to do with this, but there is a lot I don&#039;t understand. 

Rob,
I thought about doing a &quot;Bob the Builder&quot; mash-up but no need, several you-tubers beat me to it. There are some variations on the theme out there. 

It would be funny as hell if Obama adopted &quot;Bob the Builder&quot; theme music  for the campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure what Saudi Arabia and Marilyn Manson have to do with this, but there is a lot I don&#8217;t understand. </p>
<p>Rob,<br />
I thought about doing a &#8220;Bob the Builder&#8221; mash-up but no need, several you-tubers beat me to it. There are some variations on the theme out there. </p>
<p>It would be funny as hell if Obama adopted &#8220;Bob the Builder&#8221; theme music  for the campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about time someone linked Bob the Builder. The first time I saw someone gushing about &lt;a href=&quot;http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/17347/americas-new-three-little-words-yes-we-can/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Yes We Can&quot;&lt;/a&gt; I was wondering how long it would take people to realize that the messiah had once again &quot;borrowed&quot; from a literary master far greater than him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about time someone linked Bob the Builder. The first time I saw someone gushing about <a href="http://themoderatevoice.com/at-tmv/newsweek-blogitics/17347/americas-new-three-little-words-yes-we-can/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Yes We Can&#8221;</a> I was wondering how long it would take people to realize that the messiah had once again &#8220;borrowed&#8221; from a literary master far greater than him.</p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you love your guns? Yeah
God? Yeah
And Government?
Do you love your guns? Yeah
God? Yeah
And Government?
Do you love your guns? Yeah
God? Yeah
And Government?
Do you love your guns? Yeah
God? Yeah
And Government?
Fuck yeah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you love your guns? Yeah<br />
God? Yeah<br />
And Government?<br />
Do you love your guns? Yeah<br />
God? Yeah<br />
And Government?<br />
Do you love your guns? Yeah<br />
God? Yeah<br />
And Government?<br />
Do you love your guns? Yeah<br />
God? Yeah<br />
And Government?<br />
Fuck yeah</p>
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		<title>By: mg</title>
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		<dc:creator>mg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn Manson for president!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn Manson for president!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Billary withdrawing would be the best thing for the US.    

But what about Saudi Arabia and all the $$$ they have given to the Bush-Clinton??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billary withdrawing would be the best thing for the US.    </p>
<p>But what about Saudi Arabia and all the $$$ they have given to the Bush-Clinton??</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/02/25/is-the-clinton-campaign-undead/comment-page-1/#comment-391937</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m going down, it&#039;s with guns blazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m going down, it&#8217;s with guns blazing.</p>
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