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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;The Story&#8221; in Texas and Ohio</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He&#8217;s running for VP</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392801</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; He&#8217;s running for VP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the subject of prognostications, let me just get this out of the way as painlessly as possible: I told you so, Justin.    This entry was posted on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 and is filed under I Told [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the subject of prognostications, let me just get this out of the way as painlessly as possible: I told you so, Justin.    This entry was posted on Wednesday, March 5th, 2008 and is filed under I Told [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pauli</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392660</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a heck of a fight and it will be a shame if it ends now. I want to see Hillary refuse to go down -- just like DeNiro as Jake LaMotto on the ropes, letting his eyes get busted open with blood going everywhere. That will be choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a heck of a fight and it will be a shame if it ends now. I want to see Hillary refuse to go down &#8212; just like DeNiro as Jake LaMotto on the ropes, letting his eyes get busted open with blood going everywhere. That will be choice.</p>
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		<title>By: All You Need to Know About Today&#8217;s Primaries - Donkey Dish</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392643</link>
		<dc:creator>All You Need to Know About Today&#8217;s Primaries - Donkey Dish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the Clinton camp can change the story of the race [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cintia</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392621</link>
		<dc:creator>Cintia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What people should understand about this campaign is that they are not only choosing the President of the United States; they are should a world lider, probably the biggest world lider currently in these days.  And when they do that, they should take into consideration what is best not only for them, but for the rest of the world, and what the world feels and think about this election.  And let me tell you.  The world thinks that Hillary Clinton it the better suited candidate.  We the world feel that you are risking jeopardizing us all if you choose otherwise.  We had think this over and over and we only came to one conclusion every time: Hillary Clinton should be president of the U.S.A.  And that is because she is the one who can lead us to face the challenges of global warming, she&#039;s the one who has the thorough knowledge of world politics, and she&#039;s the one with most progressive ideas for the U.S.A.  Not choosing her would be a mistake.  And we, the rest of the world, request you, the ones who can vote, that please don&#039;t make a mistake who would damage us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What people should understand about this campaign is that they are not only choosing the President of the United States; they are should a world lider, probably the biggest world lider currently in these days.  And when they do that, they should take into consideration what is best not only for them, but for the rest of the world, and what the world feels and think about this election.  And let me tell you.  The world thinks that Hillary Clinton it the better suited candidate.  We the world feel that you are risking jeopardizing us all if you choose otherwise.  We had think this over and over and we only came to one conclusion every time: Hillary Clinton should be president of the U.S.A.  And that is because she is the one who can lead us to face the challenges of global warming, she&#8217;s the one who has the thorough knowledge of world politics, and she&#8217;s the one with most progressive ideas for the U.S.A.  Not choosing her would be a mistake.  And we, the rest of the world, request you, the ones who can vote, that please don&#8217;t make a mistake who would damage us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Making Late Surge In Texas?</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392578</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Hillary Making Late Surge In Texas?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] mw be right? Could Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s worst nightmares come [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] mw be right? Could Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s worst nightmares come [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clinton MUST Remain A Candidate No Matter The Outcome Of The Texas &#38; Ohio Primaries : The Feldman Blog</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392550</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton MUST Remain A Candidate No Matter The Outcome Of The Texas &#38; Ohio Primaries : The Feldman Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] matter who wins what tomorrow, neither Clinton nor Obama will end up with enough delegates to win the Democratic Party [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] matter who wins what tomorrow, neither Clinton nor Obama will end up with enough delegates to win the Democratic Party [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392534</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cernig,
I am afraid in this case, your opinion is just one among the many - actually a significant majority -  in the blogosphere and main stream media, that are making the same prediction as you. That qualifies your post and opinion on the Texas results as an example of the Conventional Wisdom as of 03/02/08.  

This is not a reflection of your overall iconoclastic views or blog, just this post, just this topic.   However, you may want to consider this a reminder that if you wish to maintain your reputation for independent unconventional thinking, you may need to turn around and swim upstream more frequently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cernig,<br />
I am afraid in this case, your opinion is just one among the many &#8211; actually a significant majority &#8211;  in the blogosphere and main stream media, that are making the same prediction as you. That qualifies your post and opinion on the Texas results as an example of the Conventional Wisdom as of 03/02/08.  </p>
<p>This is not a reflection of your overall iconoclastic views or blog, just this post, just this topic.   However, you may want to consider this a reminder that if you wish to maintain your reputation for independent unconventional thinking, you may need to turn around and swim upstream more frequently.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392533</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t find anything as witty and insightful as that. After all, it was made by Ron Paul supporters and if there&#039;s any group who know how to appeal to the masses, it&#039;s them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t find anything as witty and insightful as that. After all, it was made by Ron Paul supporters and if there&#8217;s any group who know how to appeal to the masses, it&#8217;s them.</p>
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		<title>By: Cernig</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392530</link>
		<dc:creator>Cernig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever been described as &quot;conventional wisdom&quot;. Definitely one for the scrapbook.

Regards, Cernig @ Newshoggers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve ever been described as &#8220;conventional wisdom&#8221;. Definitely one for the scrapbook.</p>
<p>Regards, Cernig @ Newshoggers</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392528</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Justin. I appreciate the effort, but I just find these music videos, while entertaining, to be unconvincing. If you want to persuade me, you&#039;ll have to link videos that are more like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uaqG0eWCcw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Justin. I appreciate the effort, but I just find these music videos, while entertaining, to be unconvincing. If you want to persuade me, you&#8217;ll have to link videos that are more like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uaqG0eWCcw" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392524</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7WwY4a9ro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;No, You Can&#039;t!&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI7WwY4a9ro" rel="nofollow">No, You Can&#8217;t!</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392523</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hillary 4 U &amp; Me!&lt;/a&gt;

And then &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iu9r040blE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the reaction&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FvyGydc8no" rel="nofollow">Hillary 4 U &#038; Me!</a></p>
<p>And then <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iu9r040blE" rel="nofollow">the reaction</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392521</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Justin

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Yes We Can!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWKhYQarJU" rel="nofollow">Yes We Can!</a></b></p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392520</link>
		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...have voters in the intervening 8 weeks learned enough about Obama to answer the questions...?&lt;/i&gt; - redhorse&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Certainly, that is the right question. I guess we&#039;ll find out on Tuesday and not before. But - I am not sure what, if anything, can change the fundamental fact that a a Clinton presidency is a known quantity, and an Obama presidency is a crapshoot. You can&#039;t learn enough to overcome that fact, you can only learn enough to ignore it. Speaking only for myself, I would feel a lot more comfortable with an Obama presidency after four or eight years of seasoning as vice-president in a Clinton administration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;&#8230;have voters in the intervening 8 weeks learned enough about Obama to answer the questions&#8230;?</i> &#8211; redhorse</p></blockquote>
<p>Certainly, that is the right question. I guess we&#8217;ll find out on Tuesday and not before. But &#8211; I am not sure what, if anything, can change the fundamental fact that a a Clinton presidency is a known quantity, and an Obama presidency is a crapshoot. You can&#8217;t learn enough to overcome that fact, you can only learn enough to ignore it. Speaking only for myself, I would feel a lot more comfortable with an Obama presidency after four or eight years of seasoning as vice-president in a Clinton administration.</p>
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		<title>By: U.S. Common Sense &#124; It&#8217;s my party and I&#8217;ll cry if I want to.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392518</link>
		<dc:creator>U.S. Common Sense &#124; It&#8217;s my party and I&#8217;ll cry if I want to.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For some additional reading across the web, check out these blogs: Hutch Report - &#8220;Democrats In Florida Might Vote Again&#8221; NB Politicus - &#8220;A Brief History of Delegates and Super Delegates&#8221; DemConWatch - &#8220;Florida delegates scrounging for Denver hotels&#8221; BlogHer - &#8220;Do Super Delegates Wear Capes and How Do You Count in Huckamath? Donklephant - &#8220;&#8216;The Story&#8217; in Texas and Ohio&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For some additional reading across the web, check out these blogs: Hutch Report &#8211; &#8220;Democrats In Florida Might Vote Again&#8221; NB Politicus &#8211; &#8220;A Brief History of Delegates and Super Delegates&#8221; DemConWatch &#8211; &#8220;Florida delegates scrounging for Denver hotels&#8221; BlogHer &#8211; &#8220;Do Super Delegates Wear Capes and How Do You Count in Huckamath? Donklephant &#8211; &#8220;&#8216;The Story&#8217; in Texas and Ohio&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392516</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Don&#039;t Stop Believin&#039;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip1zsUIosoA" rel="nofollow">Don&#8217;t Stop Believin&#8217;</a></p>
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		<title>By: redhorse</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/02/the-story-in-texas-and-ohio/comment-page-1/#comment-392515</link>
		<dc:creator>redhorse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming your theory about NH is correct, and I believe it has some merit, the real question is then this: have voters in the intervening 8 weeks learned enough about Obama to answer the questions you posed in favor of Obama.

Of your questions, I think 1 and 3 are most important.  If folk believe Obama should be the standard bearer, then they&#039;ve seen enough of this process.  The heavily front-loaded schedule plays a role too.

Still, though, Ohio is a strange animal; a win here might mean nothing more than some old Clinton nostalgia lingers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming your theory about NH is correct, and I believe it has some merit, the real question is then this: have voters in the intervening 8 weeks learned enough about Obama to answer the questions you posed in favor of Obama.</p>
<p>Of your questions, I think 1 and 3 are most important.  If folk believe Obama should be the standard bearer, then they&#8217;ve seen enough of this process.  The heavily front-loaded schedule plays a role too.</p>
<p>Still, though, Ohio is a strange animal; a win here might mean nothing more than some old Clinton nostalgia lingers.</p>
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