- It’s not entirely clear to me that he would be in a position of weakness after Pennsylvania. In fact, I can’t quite see a realistic scenario where he is behind in pledged delegates before Puerto Rico. At the earliest.

- Somehow, I don’t see Clinton/Obama as an unbeatable ticket. Why would it be any more unbeatable than Clinton/? And why do I keep encountering people who say: “I’ll vote for Obama over McCain, but McCain over Clinton” — but never a one who says “I’ll vote for Clinton over McCain, but McCain over Obama”?

- And being the first African-American Vice President is preferable to being the first African-American President just how, exactly? (Sorry if I’m just dense.)

- Obama is vulnerable on experience. But then, so is Clinton. But the solution is to run on change or judgement, rather than focus experience. Which would be right on track for Obama, but require a 180 turn for Clinton.

- Maybe. But a lot can happen in 4 or 8 years. Economics, war, etc. And there is always the possibility that being Clinton’s VP would be about as valuable as a Bush endorsement is likely to be to McCain.

- This assumes the earlier point about Clinton/Obama being an unbeatable ticket. And that Obama would do badly enough to hand the White House back to the Republicans afterwards.

To cut a deal from a position of strength, and not weakness after he is beaten in PA

Because it would be an unbeatable ticket.

Because he would the first African American Vice President.

Because he remains vulnerable on the experience issue both within the party and in the electorate at large.

Because after 4 or 8 years as VP he would get the Dem nomination just for asking and probably the Presidencas well.

Because it is a way for Dems to control the White House for 16 years.

If you have a rationale why Obama would do this, please share. And for my sake, please use simple words, so I can understand. Because at the moment I just can’t see any sense to it.

Also - when Obama outspends Clinton 3 -1 and then loses, it tends to equalize the war chest.

All this talk that Clinton’s donors were pretty much “tapped out,” but Obama’s millions were small donations from millions more people?

By implication, doesn’t that mean that Clinton’s war chest is gonna start lightening up a lot sooner than Obama’s?

I’m still holding out for Obama-Bloomberg or Obama-Hagel!

But I think we are locked in to another seven weeks of this - It can only be avoided if Obama makes a bold “selfless” move, steps aside and takes the 2nd spot.

So who plays the skunk at the picnic? Hillary’s behind and needs the Super D’s. So she doesn’t say no. Which means Obama has a very hard time saying no, as well.

There is an asymmetry problem. Exile is right - Clinton won’t do it. She has no interest in the VP job. If Obama looks like he is going to take the nomination, she will be more interested in taking Harry Reids role - majority leader in the Senate.

Like I said, I think it is a good idea for the dems, but it only works one way. Obama has to take the VP role, and he really should cut a deal to do it now. He won’t, but he should. Your point about Clinton taking the best hit that Obama could deliver (overspend, big endorsements, better organization), when she was already weakened - and coming out on top - is very very telling.

We don’t know whether Obama can take the pressure. I suspect he can and will. He’s a very quick study. And obviously a hell of an organizer.

His church will come into focus. In other words the press will start digging, looking for news. What they find will be disturbing.

In other words Justin your proposal simply smacks of……Please oh please lets not look at what lies beneath the surface of Barak Obama. Lets just trust that he will do what he says despite all the evidence pointing to the contrary.

Barak Obama needs a free ride. Its not going to happen and that has the Obama supporters terrified right now.

The next 7 weeks will tear away the layers of happy speeches and reveal a man who is lacking in substance other then basic far left talking points with a few bones thrown at the opposition to make himself appear moderate.

If he cannot weather this storm. If he cannot stand the heat that is fixing to come his way then he simply will prove what we all suspect. He is not ready to be president of the United States. He is not ready to be Commander in Chief of a nation at war.

Wrong, dude.

1) Polls show the vast majority of Dems like both candidates. There’s very little rancor.

2) I don’t think 1% of the votes have had to do with the dynasty question.

3) Obama’s not going to win PA. PA is OH, all over again, and even more blue collar.

4) Nope. This economy is increasingly about the economy. By November (barring some new terrorist attack) it will be all about the economy, and McCain’s got nothing on economy. Either Barack or Hillary will beat McCain.

#2 FLIP-FLOP DYNASTY Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton. Obama is raking in big votes because people want this to end!

#3 … AND NOW, BACK TO EMPTY PARTISANSHIP! What happened to all the excitement about Chuck Hagel? Bloomberg? I would rather see Obama, quite frankly, stick this out for 7 weeks and nail it in Pennsylvania, than to give in to the veep–either accepting Hillary, or taking the post himself.

#4 “I, John McCain, do solemnly swear, that I will faithfully execute…”
Let Hillary anywhere near the nomination, and you know this will happen. Not that that’s a bad thing, ’cause I’ve always respected McCain. But seriously, think about it…