<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: General Election Math May Be in Clinton&#8217;s Favor</title>
	<atom:link href="http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/</link>
	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392980</link>
		<dc:creator>kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392980</guid>
		<description>I saw this too. 

The problem I have with it is that it&#039;s suspect  to think that candidate A&#039;s success against candidate B in any given state speaks to either&#039;s strength against candidate C. It just doesn&#039;t necessarily follow.

For example, a few years ago the Tampa Bay Devil Rays OWNED the Yankees, who still finished with the best record in the American League. But the devil raus still finished in last place. Go figure.

Hillary has strength in big democratic machine states. If Obama wins the democratic nom, he &lt;i&gt;inherits&lt;/i&gt; that machine.

The african american aspect is interesting to me. It&#039;s true that the AA vote for democrats hasn&#039;t been enough to bring them wins in places like Georgia or Alabama. But that&#039;s at the turnout rate for guys like Kerry and Gore. How much higher do we expect turnout to be for Obama? 

Not making any predictions there, but it&#039;s worth wondering about. It would be awfully nice to see Obama test some of these southern states. If he won one or two of them, it might help those states lift the mantle of accusations of ingrained racism. 

Because we know that if the issue is brought up, some northeast latte liberal is going to say that whatever extra turnout Obama could bring will be more than countered by the extra racist votes of those backward southern so and so&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this too. </p>
<p>The problem I have with it is that it&#8217;s suspect  to think that candidate A&#8217;s success against candidate B in any given state speaks to either&#8217;s strength against candidate C. It just doesn&#8217;t necessarily follow.</p>
<p>For example, a few years ago the Tampa Bay Devil Rays OWNED the Yankees, who still finished with the best record in the American League. But the devil raus still finished in last place. Go figure.</p>
<p>Hillary has strength in big democratic machine states. If Obama wins the democratic nom, he <i>inherits</i> that machine.</p>
<p>The african american aspect is interesting to me. It&#8217;s true that the AA vote for democrats hasn&#8217;t been enough to bring them wins in places like Georgia or Alabama. But that&#8217;s at the turnout rate for guys like Kerry and Gore. How much higher do we expect turnout to be for Obama? </p>
<p>Not making any predictions there, but it&#8217;s worth wondering about. It would be awfully nice to see Obama test some of these southern states. If he won one or two of them, it might help those states lift the mantle of accusations of ingrained racism. </p>
<p>Because we know that if the issue is brought up, some northeast latte liberal is going to say that whatever extra turnout Obama could bring will be more than countered by the extra racist votes of those backward southern so and so&#8217;s.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392973</guid>
		<description>The interesting question is how well McCain&#039;s &quot;maverick&quot; image would withstand a national general election where his real self would be highlighted, a man who for the majority of his career has received an 80% or above rating  from the ACU. Can he succeed in putting his pandering to the far right behind him for the general election or is it public enough for the Democrats to use against him? I think that any polls at this point dealing with McCain just can&#039;t address these issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting question is how well McCain&#8217;s &#8220;maverick&#8221; image would withstand a national general election where his real self would be highlighted, a man who for the majority of his career has received an 80% or above rating  from the ACU. Can he succeed in putting his pandering to the far right behind him for the general election or is it public enough for the Democrats to use against him? I think that any polls at this point dealing with McCain just can&#8217;t address these issues.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392964</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392964</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; although I love it that youâ€™re convinced itâ€™s propaganda but donâ€™t know for whom â€” classic&lt;/blockquote&gt;

LOL. 

Dan F., seriously, either add something constructive to the conversation or take your rants elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> although I love it that youâ€™re convinced itâ€™s propaganda but donâ€™t know for whom â€” classic</p></blockquote>
<p>LOL. </p>
<p>Dan F., seriously, either add something constructive to the conversation or take your rants elsewhere.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392955</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392955</guid>
		<description>It&#039;s just food for thought. Not propaganda (although I love it that you&#039;re convinced it&#039;s propaganda but don&#039;t know for whom -- classic).  I consider this very much open for discussion.

The real question is, who&#039;s winning more votes that the other candidate won&#039;t win in the general election? Certainly the urban liberals will vote for either. So, is Obama winning more urban independents who might otherwise choose McCain or is Hillary winning more blue collar and rural voters who might otherwise vote Republican? It&#039;s a fair question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just food for thought. Not propaganda (although I love it that you&#8217;re convinced it&#8217;s propaganda but don&#8217;t know for whom &#8212; classic).  I consider this very much open for discussion.</p>
<p>The real question is, who&#8217;s winning more votes that the other candidate won&#8217;t win in the general election? Certainly the urban liberals will vote for either. So, is Obama winning more urban independents who might otherwise choose McCain or is Hillary winning more blue collar and rural voters who might otherwise vote Republican? It&#8217;s a fair question.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Prose Before Hos</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392950</link>
		<dc:creator>Prose Before Hos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392950</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Many Contradictions of Hillary Rodham Clinton...&lt;/strong&gt;


1. I Served on the Board of union hating Wal-Mart.
&#8211; But I am Pro Union.
2. I voted for the war in Iraq.
&#8211; But I am against The Iraq War.
3. I Voted for Kyle-Lieberman to extend the war to Iran.
&#8211; But I will bring soldiers back home ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Many Contradictions of Hillary Rodham Clinton&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>1. I Served on the Board of union hating Wal-Mart.<br />
&#8211; But I am Pro Union.<br />
2. I voted for the war in Iraq.<br />
&#8211; But I am against The Iraq War.<br />
3. I Voted for Kyle-Lieberman to extend the war to Iran.<br />
&#8211; But I will bring soldiers back home &#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dan F.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392948</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392948</guid>
		<description>This is pure propaganda - can&#039;t tell if it&#039;s for McCain, Clinton (or, perversely Obama hisself). Texas is still counting their votes and Obama is claiming victory. Hitlery makes a mockery of the democratic process.

Hey - they all seem like a bunch of New World Order, death-cult scum, but only to the least observant billary &#039;fan&#039; is Obama not taking names and kicking ass.

All of this bunch of &#039;change&#039; preaching elitist puppets are enough to make an impartial fan of democracy sick to his stomach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pure propaganda &#8211; can&#8217;t tell if it&#8217;s for McCain, Clinton (or, perversely Obama hisself). Texas is still counting their votes and Obama is claiming victory. Hitlery makes a mockery of the democratic process.</p>
<p>Hey &#8211; they all seem like a bunch of New World Order, death-cult scum, but only to the least observant billary &#8216;fan&#8217; is Obama not taking names and kicking ass.</p>
<p>All of this bunch of &#8216;change&#8217; preaching elitist puppets are enough to make an impartial fan of democracy sick to his stomach.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Look At Survey USA</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/comment-page-1/#comment-392943</link>
		<dc:creator>Look At Survey USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://donklephant.com/2008/03/06/general-election-math-may-be-in-clintons-favor/#comment-392943</guid>
		<description>http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/06/electoral-math-as-of-030608-obama-280-mccain-258/

This post is untrue. Obama is better against McCain, 280-258.

He takes states Hillary can&#039;t: Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, Iowa, North Dakota, and Oregon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/06/electoral-math-as-of-030608-obama-280-mccain-258/" >http://www.surveyusa.com/index.php/2008/03/06/electoral-math-as-of-030608-obama-280-mccain-258/</a></p>
<p>This post is untrue. Obama is better against McCain, 280-258.</p>
<p>He takes states Hillary can&#8217;t: Virginia, Wisconsin, Washington, Iowa, North Dakota, and Oregon.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

