Comments on: McCain Should Get Credit, Not Blame for Tanker Deal http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Airforce Tanker Deal Makes Sense http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393594 Donklephant » Blog Archive » Airforce Tanker Deal Makes Sense Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:51:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393594 [...] I wrote about John McCain’s involvement in a Air Force tanker deal that ultimately went to Airbus as partnered with Northrup-Grumman. McCain’s involvement aside, [...] [...] I wrote about John McCain’s involvement in a Air Force tanker deal that ultimately went to Airbus as partnered with Northrup-Grumman. McCain’s involvement aside, [...]

]]> By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Airforce Tanker Deal Makes Sense http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393595 Donklephant » Blog Archive » Airforce Tanker Deal Makes Sense Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:51:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393595 [...] I wrote about John McCain’s involvement in a Air Force tanker deal that ultimately went to Airbus as partnered with Northrup-Grumman. McCain’s involvement aside, [...] [...] I wrote about John McCain’s involvement in a Air Force tanker deal that ultimately went to Airbus as partnered with Northrup-Grumman. McCain’s involvement aside, [...]

]]> By: tbear http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393498 tbear Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:51:28 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393498 The Associated Press just broke a story a couple of hours ago, on March 11, ("McCain advisers lobbied for Airbus") confirming McCain had a larger role than previously thought in pushing the A330 and sweeping the huge Airbus subsidy issue under the rug. He was lobbied heavily by EADS and now, incredibly, some of those same lobbyists are working as high level advisors in his Presidential campaign! When the press and Boeing unfold the details of this, it will be potent ammunition to have a redo of the competition, during which they may offer the 777. The Democrats will have a field day with McCain's "holier than thou" atitude. It just might turn Kansas into a blue state, having been sacrificed to Alabama. Airbus has never made a dime on the 770 or so, A330 airplanes they have built so far (recall that Airbus was started as a jobs program for France, Italy and Spain) and they ran Lockheed and McDonnell Douglas out of the commercial airplane business because of subsidies and by selling already built planes at a huge loss to various carriers. And now America just stands by while EADS/Airbus is fronted by Northrop Grumman and starts putting together Europe made airplane components in Alabama (there is little value added here, and who knows whether they can from a technical standpoint with a workforce that has yet to be hired and trained in a building that has yet to be built). This is just the start of the EADS recently announced plan to be in our front yard, as they eventually want to offer other defense products. Do you really think they would allow us to do the same in their respective countries and compete on a level playing field? America, what a country. The Associated Press just broke a story a couple of hours ago, on March 11, (“McCain advisers lobbied for Airbus”) confirming McCain had a larger role than previously thought in pushing the A330 and sweeping the huge Airbus subsidy issue under the rug. He was lobbied heavily by EADS and now, incredibly, some of those same lobbyists are working as high level advisors in his Presidential campaign! When the press and Boeing unfold the details of this, it will be potent ammunition to have a redo of the competition, during which they may offer the 777.

The Democrats will have a field day with McCain’s “holier than thou” atitude. It just might turn Kansas into a blue state, having been sacrificed to Alabama. Airbus has never made a dime on the 770 or so, A330 airplanes they have built so far (recall that Airbus was started as a jobs program for France, Italy and Spain) and they ran Lockheed and McDonnell Douglas out of the commercial airplane business because of subsidies and by selling already built planes at a huge loss to various carriers. And now America just stands by while EADS/Airbus is fronted by Northrop Grumman and starts putting together Europe made airplane components in Alabama (there is little value added here, and who knows whether they can from a technical standpoint with a workforce that has yet to be hired and trained in a building that has yet to be built). This is just the start of the EADS recently announced plan to be in our front yard, as they eventually want to offer other defense products. Do you really think they would allow us to do the same in their respective countries and compete on a level playing field? America, what a country.

]]> By: Joseph Grow http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393484 Joseph Grow Tue, 11 Mar 2008 21:08:12 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393484 First NAFTA, than a world trade and manufacturing imbalance that outsourced enough American jobs to create large portions of our population that can't afford home mortgages and now we are going to give away 44 thousand jobs to FRANCE! And we the tax payer are going to pay for it all!!!! wj, it is you, you blooming idiot, who is DAFT and dangerous as well!!!!!! I guess you,ve got a job, so you can be very tolerant of the EU and the hell with everybody else! First NAFTA, than a world trade and manufacturing imbalance that outsourced enough American jobs to create large portions of our population that can’t afford home mortgages and now we are going
to give away 44 thousand jobs to FRANCE! And we the tax payer are going to pay for it all!!!! wj, it is you, you blooming idiot, who is DAFT
and dangerous as well!!!!!! I guess you,ve got a job, so you can be very
tolerant of the EU and the hell with everybody else!

]]> By: wj http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393479 wj Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:35:54 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393479 I could maybe see refusing to buy military equipment from someone we thought <i>might</i> be an opponent in a shooting war at some point in the future. But claiming the EU is such a potential opponent is just daft. I could maybe see refusing to buy military equipment from someone we thought might be an opponent in a shooting war at some point in the future. But claiming the EU is such a potential opponent is just daft.

]]> By: ExiledIndependent http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393466 ExiledIndependent Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:10:47 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393466 I'm willing to sound protectionist when it comes to manufacture and/or control of military equipment, communications and infrastruture. I’m willing to sound protectionist when it comes to manufacture and/or control of military equipment, communications and infrastruture.

]]> By: Rich Horton http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393463 Rich Horton Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:58:02 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393463 I also love how no one is focusing upon the performance of the product involved. If we are really interested in giving our troops the best equipment, and not decideding which program is the better pork barrell project for the home district(s), then performance should be the key question. I also love how no one is focusing upon the performance of the product involved. If we are really interested in giving our troops the best equipment, and not decideding which program is the better pork barrell project for the home district(s), then performance should be the key question.

]]> By: Rich Horton http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393462 Rich Horton Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:54:58 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393462 <i>However, because the plane won’t be built in America by American workers, McCain is being painted as the villain. </i> Actually, I believe the planes will be built (assembled) in Alabama. Also a lot of the parts will be supplied by American firms. Boeing has no one to blame but themselves. And why shouldn't Northrop Grumman be able to win this contract? So what if they partnered with Airbus? It is especially galling to see these Republican's who push globalization/free trade thing all the time throwing a conniption about this. It reaches a level of hypocrisy that is very nearly offensive. However, because the plane won’t be built in America by American workers, McCain is being painted as the villain.

Actually, I believe the planes will be built (assembled) in Alabama. Also a lot of the parts will be supplied by American firms. Boeing has no one to blame but themselves.

And why shouldn’t Northrop Grumman be able to win this contract? So what if they partnered with Airbus? It is especially galling to see these Republican’s who push globalization/free trade thing all the time throwing a conniption about this. It reaches a level of hypocrisy that is very nearly offensive.

]]> By: Jim http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393453 Jim Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:50:07 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393453 "Blame our policy of allowing foreign companies to bid on our military projects. But don’t blame McCain for ensuring the current system is used fairly." Alan You missed the part that this 'policy' was a McCain sponsored amendment. “Blame our policy of allowing foreign companies to bid on our military projects. But don’t blame McCain for ensuring the current system is used fairly.”

Alan

You missed the part that this ‘policy’ was a McCain sponsored amendment.

]]> By: Jim http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-393450 Jim Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:43:08 +0000 http://donklephant.com/2008/03/11/mccain-should-get-credit-not-blame-for-tanker-deal/#comment-393450 McCain “I’ll give it to you straight my friends..Those jobs won’t be coming back! We need to retrain our workforce in America to green technologies.. ‘off camera prompt’.. (pause) It’s the wave of the future, just like the hula-hoop of yesteryear!” ‘Grin’ … “This process was fair and open. My letters did not influence the results here.. HEY! Get off my lawn you little JER*! ..’off camera prompt’ ..(pause) ..mumbling.. Let us strike that from the record if I may! ..(grin)..” McCain

“I’ll give it to you straight my friends..Those jobs won’t be coming back! We need to retrain our workforce in America to green technologies.. ‘off camera prompt’.. (pause) It’s the wave of the future, just like the hula-hoop of yesteryear!” ‘Grin’ …
“This process was fair and open. My letters did not influence the results here..
HEY! Get off my lawn you little JER*! ..’off camera prompt’ ..(pause) ..mumbling.. Let us strike that from the record if I may! ..(grin)..”

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