A Republican goat.

Does it count if he’s caught with a goat? Because I’ve heard rumors…..

Not long ago Obama supporters were wringing their hands saying if Clinton didn’t drop out of the race the sky would fall. Now twenty-two percent of Democrats want him to drop out and eighty-five percent think it’s going to be deceided by super delegates, and the sky is sill there. I think we’re starting to see some buyer’s remorse with Obama or his supporters are just getting used to the idea that she’s going to take the nomination from him. Who knows, in a couple of weeks maybe we can count on their support for Clinton.

BTW – Obama winning more delegates than Clinton in states that she won the Primary (like TX) just proves what a travesty the caucus process is and how undemocratic the pledged delegates are. The will of the people was thwarted by Obama and his supporters in Tx (and MI and FL and…). I can only hope that the superdelegates understand that they need to restore some integrity to this process, side with the will of the people and vote to overturn the pledged delegates. The will of the people demand it. Otherwise the will of the people may become disgusted with the Democrats and turn against them in November. Fortunately we have a real fighter with Clinton, who will keep fighting hard for the will of the people. She is the one hope for the will of the people to be recognized in the democratic party process, and with such an important principle at stake (the will of the people), the right thing for her to do is keep fighting and scrambling to the bitter end to defend the will of the people. I am really surprised to find Obama and his supporters to be so undemocratic and opposed to the will of the people. Its shocking really.

JG – Current odds on Intrade are 5-1. Nothing is going to happen to change the dynamic of this race until PA, and I hate to take advantage of you with those odds. Maybe Clinton will get a bit of a bump when she mops the floor with him in the debate again – that might improve the odds.

I think a wager should be blog related in some way. Maybe a directed post where the winner directs the loser to write a post on a specific subject and also specifies which side to take. For example I might ask you to write a post defending the use of superdelegates in the Democratic Party nomination process. At current odds you would have to risk five directed posts to my one. What do you think?

Ok. You drop the “will of the people” canard as it relates to pledged delegates, and I’ll drop the “fighter” meme. Deal?

Actually, I was talking to Chuck. So I’m not dropping anything. Sorry. :-)

However, I will place a wager that Obama gets the nomination. What are you in for?

“Stick a fork in her………it’s over.” – tc

Heh. You know, the most reliable metric I have found to be an indicator of an impending Clinton win, is when I start seeing Obama supporters using the phrase “stick a fork in her”. The last two times this happened was immediately before New Hampshire and immediately before Ohio/Texas.

Really. I noted the phenomena in this post

If I see this two or three more times, I’ll know it is a lock for Clinton.

As far as “fighters” go, I’ve been extremely impressed with both candidates’ tenacity in this race. But just because Hillary is behind doesn’t mean she’s a better fighter. Obama has quickly and efficiently responded to attack after attack in this campaign and has never backed down. So let’s drop the hacky “fighter” meme, shall we?

Chuck, that’s correct, but the superdelegates have to decide if they want to overturn the will of the people. If they do, it’ll be sticky.

Both you and I know that if Obama wins it’s because of the super delegates.

It is simply a false statement that Clinton can’t win. Playing exactly by the rules of the Dem nomination process, If she continues to fight hard, I think it is likely, even probable that she will win. She owes it to her supporters (of which every poll shows there are as many as Obama supporters), to fight as hard as she can for the nomination.

Obama has failed to deliver a knockout blow even outspending her 4-1 and having all the momentum going into TX and OH. I think he very well may have already peaked, and is on a slow downward slide now. She does better than him in every debate, and there are two more coming up.

The only way to reply to this abject nonsense that Clinton should stop trying to win the nomination, because “the Democratc party suffers” is to just flip the names and play it back:

So TerrenceC:
Barack hurts everyone the longer he stays…..and he couldn’t care less if the Democratic party suffers because of it.

Get over it. It is still a very real contest. May the best woman win.

“If the delegate count was reversed would they be screaming for Obama to quit. Hell, no. So it’s in the interests of their canidate that they want Clinton to quit. Not that they give a damn about the Democratic Party. What hypocrisy.”

If the delegate count were reversed virtually everyone would be asking for Obama to step down – Clinton, the Media, both right and left wing news, everyone – and you know what……..he’d do it. It is because who her husband is, and what the Clinton’s are in the Dem party that she is still considered active in this race – no other reason. The facts are right before us. She can’t win on any matrices….she lost, and it’s her fault.

The longer the loser stays in and launches attacks at her primary opponent the greater the chances the opposition going unchallenged will win. I didn’t write these Primary/caucus rules….I didn’t agree to these rules…..I didn’t even know about most of these rules – but the people involved all did, and they all agreed. Sour grapes and revisionist history won’t cut it – she needs to go quickly and quietly. Game over…she and her seven dwarves team took it all for granted……..it’s endemic of America actually – arrogance, hubris, the big fall, then all the dust up as her team of cartoon characters point fingers and try and shift blame figuring out what the hell just happened.

There must be a good line from Casablanca that would wrap this up properly for Hillary — how about this exchange

Hill: You understand how I feel. How long was it we had Bill?
Bill: (Bill on the verge of tears) I didn’t count the days.
Hill: Well, I did. Every one of ‘em. Mostly I remember the last one. The wild finish. A lady standing on a station platform in the rain with a comical look in her face because her insides have been kicked out. (remembering super Tuesday and having “it” handed to her in Wisconsin)

Hillary hurts everyone the longer she stays…..and she’s couldn’t care less if the Democratic party suffers because of it. President McCain and Vice President Clinton – what’s next?

You bet Clinton is trying to wreck Obama’s chances in 2008. Isn’t he trying to wreck her chances. Don’t canidates try to win elections over opponents?
50% of Democrats disagree with you and think Hilary would make the best canidate.
One theme I’ve noticed among Obama followers is that they fear the primaries running their course. They want to quit while they’re ahead. If the delegate count was reversed would they be screaming for Obama to quit. Hell, no. So it’s in the interests of their canidate that they want Clinton to quit. Not that they give a damn about the Democratic Party. What hypocrisy.
They say you can’t judge a book by it’s cover. That’s true. A lot of Obama followers judged him before they opened the book and looked at the pages. Turns out it was a work or fiction.

A question for Obamaites. What do you think of reparations?