Comments on: Lieberman and the Shifting Center http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:35:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Jim S http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395307 Jim S Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:24:31 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395307 No, no, no, Nelson. The robes and crosses are reserved for the gays. No, no, no, Nelson. The robes and crosses are reserved for the gays.

]]> By: Nelson http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395265 Nelson Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:12:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395265 It works both ways. I felt like a good conservative republican back when that meant smaller government, free trade and lower spending. Then the conservative republicans started spending all kinds of pork, become protectionists and decided to "get tough on immigration." I feel like they're about to pull out the hooded robes and burn some crosses when I hear them talk about the issue. I'd rather vote for a Dem. than some bigot who hates Mexicans. At least McCain is still sane. It works both ways. I felt like a good conservative republican back when that meant smaller government, free trade and lower spending. Then the conservative republicans started spending all kinds of pork, become protectionists and decided to “get tough on immigration.” I feel like they’re about to pull out the hooded robes and burn some crosses when I hear them talk about the issue. I’d rather vote for a Dem. than some bigot who hates Mexicans.

At least McCain is still sane.

]]> By: TP Babe http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395256 TP Babe Tue, 01 Apr 2008 04:39:32 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395256 With all this talk of partisan politics, I'd like to introduce (or perhaps reintroduce) the concept of transpartisan (TP). The basic precept of the transpartisan movement is to look beyond party, for the sake of the community, nation and world. I'm so ready for this idea! And so DONE with partisan bickering and scorch & burn politics. With a transpartisan framework, people offer differing solutions while acknowledging and respecting the goals and intentions of others. Having attended one such gathering last fall with Reuniting America, I was ecstatically surprised at the level of trust that was built within three days of meetings and dialogue. Outcomes from that meeting are ongoing, including work on increasing government transparency. Yes, it's very optimistic...but then, so am I. :) America's greatest asset is our optimism. With all this talk of partisan politics, I’d like to introduce (or perhaps reintroduce) the concept of transpartisan (TP). The basic precept of the transpartisan movement is to look beyond party, for the sake of the community, nation and world. I’m so ready for this idea! And so DONE with partisan bickering and scorch & burn politics. With a transpartisan framework, people offer differing solutions while acknowledging and respecting the goals and intentions of others. Having attended one such gathering last fall with Reuniting America, I was ecstatically surprised at the level of trust that was built within three days of meetings and dialogue. Outcomes from that meeting are ongoing, including work on increasing government transparency. Yes, it’s very optimistic…but then, so am I. :) America’s greatest asset is our optimism.

]]> By: Jim S http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395254 Jim S Tue, 01 Apr 2008 03:58:17 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395254 No, the Democratic party didn't leave Lieberman. There is no time in recent history where they wouldn't have reacted the way they have to the Iraqi disaster. Lieberman supports it unconditionally. He is the one who moved there. He is the one who for the sake of supporting the war in Iraq decided to move away from being an Independent who caucuses with Democrats to a supporter of the Republican candidate for President. No, the Democratic party didn’t leave Lieberman. There is no time in recent history where they wouldn’t have reacted the way they have to the Iraqi disaster. Lieberman supports it unconditionally. He is the one who moved there. He is the one who for the sake of supporting the war in Iraq decided to move away from being an Independent who caucuses with Democrats to a supporter of the Republican candidate for President.

]]> By: TerenceC http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395247 TerenceC Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:05:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395247 Lieberman is an "I" by necessity not by choice - I have no patience for conservative's who don't stay with any of the conservative ideals, won't admit that they are conservative, and work against a progressive agenda while they maintain they are in favor of it. No party left Joe - he is a conservative pro-war Zionist - period. American politics is decidedly anti-war, anti zionist, fiscally conservative, domestically focused, and in dire need of the "adults" regaining power.........Joe doesn't fit into any of those areas any more. He is a very pious man in every way and that is to be respected, and that is the reason Gore asked him to be his VP - because of his piety. Bill C and Monica L was the "blow job heard around the world". It cost Gore the presidency, and cost America and the world at large so much more. That's Liebermans claim to fame - he was the VP choice because no one else had the cajones to reprimand Clinton on the Senate floor for a fraternity prank. There are 23 Republican Senate seats up in 2008 - right now it looks like Dems will take 11 of them (possibly 16), while maintaining and extending their majority......Lieberman is finished and he knows it. By Joe - why don't you read the memoirs of Henry Wallace - atleast Henry was forward thinking. Lieberman is an “I” by necessity not by choice - I have no patience for conservative’s who don’t stay with any of the conservative ideals, won’t admit that they are conservative, and work against a progressive agenda while they maintain they are in favor of it.

No party left Joe - he is a conservative pro-war Zionist - period. American politics is decidedly anti-war, anti zionist, fiscally conservative, domestically focused, and in dire need of the “adults” regaining power………Joe doesn’t fit into any of those areas any more. He is a very pious man in every way and that is to be respected, and that is the reason Gore asked him to be his VP - because of his piety.

Bill C and Monica L was the “blow job heard around the world”. It cost Gore the presidency, and cost America and the world at large so much more. That’s Liebermans claim to fame - he was the VP choice because no one else had the cajones to reprimand Clinton on the Senate floor for a fraternity prank.

There are 23 Republican Senate seats up in 2008 - right now it looks like Dems will take 11 of them (possibly 16), while maintaining and extending their majority……Lieberman is finished and he knows it. By Joe - why don’t you read the memoirs of Henry Wallace - atleast Henry was forward thinking.

]]> By: BenG http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395246 BenG Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:53:35 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395246 ASC, I agree with your main point, but being left behind isn't all that bad in today's politics. Some of the catch phrases that label one as conservative or liberal may have become irrelevant in todays climate. I don't understand how being an interventionist was a more liberal trait, and I thought the conservatives were once blamed for being too isolationist. I think we all have tendencies towards many idealogical directions depending on your specific circumstances. One thing I can assure you, we're all done with the politics as usual that pigeon-hole us into the marketing strategy that SELLS US DOWN THE RIVER!!! Take the current overhaul of the financial regulatory system just announced today by the Bush Admins. Sounds awful liberal to me! Problem is, it's a few days too late and a couple of billion dollars too short!! But thanks so much guys for finally figuring out that there's a problem here. Now I can't wait for congress to go and screw up doin somethin about it. ASC,

I agree with your main point, but being left behind isn’t all that bad in today’s politics. Some of the catch phrases that label one as conservative or liberal may have become irrelevant in todays climate.
I don’t understand how being an interventionist was a more liberal trait, and I thought the conservatives were once blamed for being too isolationist. I think we all have tendencies towards many idealogical directions depending on your specific circumstances. One thing I can assure you, we’re all done with the politics as usual that pigeon-hole us into the marketing strategy that SELLS US DOWN THE RIVER!!!

Take the current overhaul of the financial regulatory system just announced today by the Bush Admins. Sounds awful liberal to me! Problem is, it’s a few days too late and a couple of billion dollars too short!! But thanks so much guys for finally figuring out that there’s a problem here. Now I can’t wait for congress to go and screw up doin somethin about it.

]]> By: Avinash_Tyagi http://donklephant.com/2008/03/31/lieberman-and-the-shifting-center/#comment-395243 Avinash_Tyagi Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:49:46 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=5085#comment-395243 Nah he's just upset that most of us realize the scam Bush is running in Iraq and want to leave. Unlike him the Dems aren't ready to buy into the politics of the neocons and theocons Nah he’s just upset that most of us realize the scam Bush is running in Iraq and want to leave.

Unlike him the Dems aren’t ready to buy into the politics of the neocons and theocons

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