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	<title>Comments on: Good call on the SF torch run</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Vinyl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/04/10/good-call-on-the-sf-torch-run/comment-page-1/#comment-395959</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Vinyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s kind of the point. I wish I could remember where I read this, maybe in the &lt;i&gt;Chron&lt;/i&gt;, but I heard folks were getting bussed up from the Central Valley, as far out as Southern California... Whether they cared either way, I don&#039;t think the vast, vast majority of San Francisco Chinese are strongly pro-PRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s kind of the point. I wish I could remember where I read this, maybe in the <i>Chron</i>, but I heard folks were getting bussed up from the Central Valley, as far out as Southern California&#8230; Whether they cared either way, I don&#8217;t think the vast, vast majority of San Francisco Chinese are strongly pro-PRC.</p>
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		<title>By: Divided We Stand United We Fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divided We Stand United We Fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Olympic torch protest postscript: Good call Mr. Mayor...&lt;/strong&gt;

The oppression of Tibet by China is a deadly serious issue.

The San Francisco Olympic Torch Relay protest was not.

I am glad it stayed that way.

Well played Mr. Mayor.

x-posted at Donklephant. ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Olympic torch protest postscript: Good call Mr. Mayor&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The oppression of Tibet by China is a deadly serious issue.</p>
<p>The San Francisco Olympic Torch Relay protest was not.</p>
<p>I am glad it stayed that way.</p>
<p>Well played Mr. Mayor.</p>
<p>x-posted at Donklephant. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, Thanks for the kind words.

Eric,
You are clearly in a better position than me to appreciate the differing perspectives of Han and Mandarin speakers. I was just embarrassed to learn how ignorant I was of the views of so many of my Chinese-American neighbors in the City. Thanks for the comment, it was enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, Thanks for the kind words.</p>
<p>Eric,<br />
You are clearly in a better position than me to appreciate the differing perspectives of Han and Mandarin speakers. I was just embarrassed to learn how ignorant I was of the views of so many of my Chinese-American neighbors in the City. Thanks for the comment, it was enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeSorwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeSorwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wonderfully written piece. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderfully written piece. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Vinyl</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/04/10/good-call-on-the-sf-torch-run/comment-page-1/#comment-395885</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Vinyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting thing is, I didn&#039;t really notice any kind of &quot;split&quot; within the Chinese-American community at all.  Almost all the ethnic Chinese I saw were smiling waving PRC flags (a few American socialists had come out to support Beijing as well) but I only saw one &quot;Another Chinese-American for a Free Tibet.&quot;  I saw one &quot;Taiwan&quot; baseball cap.  I actually looked hard for Chinese people either opposing the Chinese government or supporting Tibet.  On the Chinese news last night, pretty much everyone interviewed speaking Chinese expressed dismay at the protesters.  Many of the Chinese people I talked to claimed Han Chinese felt pride at China hosting a Games, regardless of the government, but all the counterprotesters seemed to be Mandarin speakers bused in from the Peninsula, or further out.  I couldn&#039;t find any old school Chinatown heads, who maybe didn&#039;t care too passionately either pro-Mainland or pro-Tibet and didn&#039;t feel like getting involved.  I&#039;m interested to talk to the Taiwan Chinese I know and see whether they, and their families, see the 2008 Olympics as a source of pride for all Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting thing is, I didn&#8217;t really notice any kind of &#8220;split&#8221; within the Chinese-American community at all.  Almost all the ethnic Chinese I saw were smiling waving PRC flags (a few American socialists had come out to support Beijing as well) but I only saw one &#8220;Another Chinese-American for a Free Tibet.&#8221;  I saw one &#8220;Taiwan&#8221; baseball cap.  I actually looked hard for Chinese people either opposing the Chinese government or supporting Tibet.  On the Chinese news last night, pretty much everyone interviewed speaking Chinese expressed dismay at the protesters.  Many of the Chinese people I talked to claimed Han Chinese felt pride at China hosting a Games, regardless of the government, but all the counterprotesters seemed to be Mandarin speakers bused in from the Peninsula, or further out.  I couldn&#8217;t find any old school Chinatown heads, who maybe didn&#8217;t care too passionately either pro-Mainland or pro-Tibet and didn&#8217;t feel like getting involved.  I&#8217;m interested to talk to the Taiwan Chinese I know and see whether they, and their families, see the 2008 Olympics as a source of pride for all Chinese.</p>
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