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		<title>By: Erik Sickinger</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/04/29/obama-disowns-wright/comment-page-1/#comment-397479</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Sickinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich:
Fair enough - interestingly, Obama&#039;s gains before variousgate was primarily in the white voters.  Remember when his problems used to be not white votes, but hispanic votes?

He&#039;s lost/loses votes when up against Clinton.  It will be interesting to see how he fares when its not woman vs. man, white vs. black.

And andrew sullivan has some interesting thoughts on why he picked Trinity. Worth a good read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich:<br />
Fair enough &#8211; interestingly, Obama&#8217;s gains before variousgate was primarily in the white voters.  Remember when his problems used to be not white votes, but hispanic votes?</p>
<p>He&#8217;s lost/loses votes when up against Clinton.  It will be interesting to see how he fares when its not woman vs. man, white vs. black.</p>
<p>And andrew sullivan has some interesting thoughts on why he picked Trinity. Worth a good read.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Horton</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/04/29/obama-disowns-wright/comment-page-1/#comment-397473</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do you really believe a 26 year old has that kind of judgement when it comes to picking a pastor? Do you really think he believed back then that something like this would play such a large role? Obama needed a father figure&lt;/i&gt;

This is surely the spin here.  The Chicago press has had no trouble showing that Obama picked his church in a bid for street cred for his &quot;community organizing&quot; activities.  It also seems clear that Trinity was deemed acceptable because of its peculiar ideological component...and not the clarity of its &quot;theological vision.&quot;  

And as for Obama&#039;s potential to &quot;lose the black vote&quot; all I can say is any candidacy for national office that is contingent upon winning 90%+ of the black vote and not having that slip to a mere 75%+, is skating on some pretty thin ice indeed.  Obama&#039;s most pressing need was always going to be to appeal to moderate white voters...whoever didn&#039;t realize that on Obama&#039;s staff should be fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do you really believe a 26 year old has that kind of judgement when it comes to picking a pastor? Do you really think he believed back then that something like this would play such a large role? Obama needed a father figure</i></p>
<p>This is surely the spin here.  The Chicago press has had no trouble showing that Obama picked his church in a bid for street cred for his &#8220;community organizing&#8221; activities.  It also seems clear that Trinity was deemed acceptable because of its peculiar ideological component&#8230;and not the clarity of its &#8220;theological vision.&#8221;  </p>
<p>And as for Obama&#8217;s potential to &#8220;lose the black vote&#8221; all I can say is any candidacy for national office that is contingent upon winning 90%+ of the black vote and not having that slip to a mere 75%+, is skating on some pretty thin ice indeed.  Obama&#8217;s most pressing need was always going to be to appeal to moderate white voters&#8230;whoever didn&#8217;t realize that on Obama&#8217;s staff should be fired.</p>
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		<title>By: juneblossom</title>
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		<dc:creator>juneblossom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were Obama I would BEG this guy to go on some sort of humanitarian-related excursion OUT OF THE COUNTRY for the next 8 months.  I would donate money to that trip!  Maybe the DNC should fund it -- it would definitely be for the good of the party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were Obama I would BEG this guy to go on some sort of humanitarian-related excursion OUT OF THE COUNTRY for the next 8 months.  I would donate money to that trip!  Maybe the DNC should fund it &#8212; it would definitely be for the good of the party!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sickinger</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/04/29/obama-disowns-wright/comment-page-1/#comment-397440</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Sickinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich:
With african americans being Obama&#039;s most consistent voting base, I disagree he should have disowned Wright from the onset.  THAT would have been interpreted as a pure political move, not a personal one.  It would have put some distance between him and his base, and hurt him nationally.

Dos: Do you really believe a 26 year old has that kind of judgement when it comes to picking a pastor?  Do you really think he believed back then that something like this would play such a large role?  Obama needed a father figure, and he found one in Rev. Wright.  Misguided or not, one can hardly blame him for a decision made at such an age.

That said, I think it finally gives Obama an opening to put an end to all this.  While the right ring neo-cons are spinning it as a empty political move, I think that reason heads (vs. Rush&#039;s ditto heads ) see it for what it is - a painful seperation between a man and his pastor.  This time limits the Wright gate to another week or two for the republicans as we move into the GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich:<br />
With african americans being Obama&#8217;s most consistent voting base, I disagree he should have disowned Wright from the onset.  THAT would have been interpreted as a pure political move, not a personal one.  It would have put some distance between him and his base, and hurt him nationally.</p>
<p>Dos: Do you really believe a 26 year old has that kind of judgement when it comes to picking a pastor?  Do you really think he believed back then that something like this would play such a large role?  Obama needed a father figure, and he found one in Rev. Wright.  Misguided or not, one can hardly blame him for a decision made at such an age.</p>
<p>That said, I think it finally gives Obama an opening to put an end to all this.  While the right ring neo-cons are spinning it as a empty political move, I think that reason heads (vs. Rush&#8217;s ditto heads ) see it for what it is &#8211; a painful seperation between a man and his pastor.  This time limits the Wright gate to another week or two for the republicans as we move into the GE.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Horton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Horton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK here is a question.  Wouldn&#039;t Obama have been better off flat out disownig Wright back in the day, instead of doing his beating around the bush routine with the &quot;race speech&quot;?

Remember how that was supposed to be a seminal moment for our democracy?

Is it safe to say it was woefully inadequate to the actual situation?  Sure, having a balanced discussion about race in America is an important thing to do.  But the issue was NOT the entire history of race relations, it was a single lunatic.  Obama&#039;s not playing that one straight has rightly come back to haunt him.

ON another unrelated note if Justin or any other Donklephant team member sees this:  Is there any reason Bloglines isn&#039;t recognizing your RSS feed anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK here is a question.  Wouldn&#8217;t Obama have been better off flat out disownig Wright back in the day, instead of doing his beating around the bush routine with the &#8220;race speech&#8221;?</p>
<p>Remember how that was supposed to be a seminal moment for our democracy?</p>
<p>Is it safe to say it was woefully inadequate to the actual situation?  Sure, having a balanced discussion about race in America is an important thing to do.  But the issue was NOT the entire history of race relations, it was a single lunatic.  Obama&#8217;s not playing that one straight has rightly come back to haunt him.</p>
<p>ON another unrelated note if Justin or any other Donklephant team member sees this:  Is there any reason Bloglines isn&#8217;t recognizing your RSS feed anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Dos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Obama got ticked off at being stabbed in the back by a friend he defended&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is what happens when you pick insane, evil assholes for friends...the friendship hardly ever works out.  A lesson that Obama should seriously take to heart in dealing with the middle east -- a place where Wright&#039;s kind of inflamatory stupidity and bigotedness is the norm.  Again, the issue is only partially about the relationship itself between Wright and Obama -- the issue is more about Obama&#039;s poor judgment manifested in being friends (voluntary family) with someone like Rev. Wright.  20 years...and he didn&#039;t know -- strains credulity doesn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Obama got ticked off at being stabbed in the back by a friend he defended</p></blockquote>
<p>That is what happens when you pick insane, evil assholes for friends&#8230;the friendship hardly ever works out.  A lesson that Obama should seriously take to heart in dealing with the middle east &#8212; a place where Wright&#8217;s kind of inflamatory stupidity and bigotedness is the norm.  Again, the issue is only partially about the relationship itself between Wright and Obama &#8212; the issue is more about Obama&#8217;s poor judgment manifested in being friends (voluntary family) with someone like Rev. Wright.  20 years&#8230;and he didn&#8217;t know &#8212; strains credulity doesn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: Avinash_Tyagi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avinash_Tyagi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was the fact that he said Obama was just acting like a politician, No Mr Wright if Obama had been acting like a politician he wouldn&#039;t have defended you last month he would have thrown you under the bus.

I think Obama got ticked off at being stabbed in the back by a friend he defended</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was the fact that he said Obama was just acting like a politician, No Mr Wright if Obama had been acting like a politician he wouldn&#8217;t have defended you last month he would have thrown you under the bus.</p>
<p>I think Obama got ticked off at being stabbed in the back by a friend he defended</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama 2008/2012</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama 2008/2012</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wright was great with Moyers. Why couldnt he have just left it at that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright was great with Moyers. Why couldnt he have just left it at that?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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