Comments on: Gore Links Cyclone to Global Warming

By: Markus

Markus — Mon, 12 May 2008 00:51:31 +0000

Sorry, but you are wrong on many levels.
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/5/9/154426/7163

quote: “Gore Said Myanmar Cyclone Is Not A Consequence Of Global Warming. The BMI headline ignores that Gore says in the interview that “any individual storm can’t be linked singularly to global warming — we’ve always had hurricanes.”"

By: Dos

Dos — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:59:05 +0000

The problem kranky is not that AlGore is wrong, the problem is that he may be correct. He does the same for environmentalism, that Hagee/Wright/Farewell, et al. do to religion. By grossly inflating his scientific certainty and using a tradegy for political gain — he gives ammo to those with opposite political agendas. He should be totally marginalized, not be granted the figure-head, of the environmental movement. He’s really is a fucking embarrassment.

By: kranky kritter

kranky kritter — Thu, 08 May 2008 15:40:56 +0000

Basically, if you’re in the drain circlers club, EVERY natural disaster is further proof that you’re right and drastic action must be taken.

Reminds me of religion. At this point, I’m pretty much numb to this effect. The best you can do is ignore it.

By: Rob in Denver

Rob in Denver — Thu, 08 May 2008 14:26:52 +0000

“‘have hinted might be true’ â€” is significantly different than asserting it as a fact to push oneâ€™s political agenda.”

QFT

The title of former VPOTUS provides an enormous platform from which to speak. He opens his mouth, and people listen and then accept it as truth. It’s a dangerous game that fear mongering to influence public policy.

By: Dos

Dos — Thu, 08 May 2008 13:39:43 +0000

“have hinted might be true” — is significantly different than asserting it as a fact to push one’s political agenda. Gore should in the future: 1) cite his source and 2) speak in less authoritative and certain language. He actually does his own cause damage by not doing so. But I sense, AlGore enjoys being a demogague and Hollywood celebrity which doesn’t lend itself to careful, objective, scientific advocacy — too many people to impress with bluster.

By: Jim S

Jim S — Thu, 08 May 2008 02:21:18 +0000

Actually Gore is just repeating what several studies have hinted might be true. There is also a study that has models that suggest that there might be an effect that would increase wind shear in a way that would counter the effects of warming that would tend to increase storm strength. Given that it is known that warm ocean water is the fuel for hurricanes/cyclones to look at how warming would affect those storms is only logical. What the data seems to indicate is that in those areas where ocean water has warmed to a great enough depth that the storm can’t cause enough circulation to bring up cooler water and thereby limit the “fuel” the storm has available. It’s a balancing act, according to what I’ve read. But the more the ocean warms the deeper that warming can go and the more that balance would go towards stronger storms, but not necessarily more storms.

By: Dos

Dos — Thu, 08 May 2008 01:58:08 +0000

“correlation is usually the best scientist can do in these topics” – avinash

Does this apply to the global warming via man-made carbon emmissions. Or has actual causation been proven there? I’m just trying to figure out fits in “these topics” and what does not.

By: Jimmy the Dhimmi

Jimmy the Dhimmi — Wed, 07 May 2008 22:18:28 +0000

One problem with Al Gore's theory about the Myanmar Cyclone, is that the oceans have actually been cooling over at least the past 5 years. Then again, its possible that global warming actually inhibits hurricane formation, which might explain why it takes a cooler ocean to produce such a storm. Shows how much Al Gore knows!

By: Rob

Rob — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:59:57 +0000

Alan… you will be excommunicated for your act of heresy, you have only yourself to blame.

By: bubbles

bubbles — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:48:11 +0000

Yeah until Al Gore gets a PhD in Environmental Science I’m going to take his advice on global warming about as seriously as I take Amy Winehouse’s word on teetotalism.

By: Avinash_Tyagi

Avinash_Tyagi — Wed, 07 May 2008 21:47:42 +0000

While I agree in principle, correlation is usually the best scientist can do in these topics