ABC Says Obama Leads In Superdelegates, But…
By Justin Gardner | Related entries in 2008 Election, Barack, Democrats, Hillary, Media, Super Delegates!!!They say Obama has 267 and Clinton has 265.
See, this is the problem with the DNC not having an official tally, because all of these news organizations have different counts.
Every news organization’s superdelegate count is a little different because it is an imperfect science. Since October 2007, the Political Unit has continuously reached out to the nearly 800 superdelegates to determine their candidate preference. We also reach out regularly to the Obama and Clinton campaigns for their superdelegate lists and work to confirm any that they include on their lists.
Seriously, check out how wide the discrepancies are.
ABC
Obama - 267
Clinton - 265
New York Times
Clinton - 263
Obama - 258
Politico
Clinton - 268.5
Obama - 260
CBS
Clinton - 271
Obama - 261
CNN
Clinton - 268
Obama - 258
NBC
Clinton - 274
Obama - 260
AP
Clinton - 271
Obama - 256
Our total right now is Clinton - 273.5, Obama - 264…which corresponds with NONE of these. However, if you take all of these, add them together (including subtracting 2 for Obama’s lead), guess what you get? An average of 8.6. Our margin is 9.5. That doesn’t necessarily make us right, but we’re closeish.
I’ll stick by mine for the time being until these folks figure something else out.
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May 9th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Can’t discredit Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_superdelegates%2C_2008
May 9th, 2008 at 7:42 am
i must have missed this somewhere along the line… but how is it possible to have a half superdelegate?
May 9th, 2008 at 7:44 am
Half superdelegates are from the Dems Abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_superdelegates%2C_2008
May 9th, 2008 at 8:17 am
Half superdelegates are from territories like Guam and the Dems Abroad primary I believe.
Here’s another count, because we shouldn’t discredit Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_superdelegates%2C_2008
May 9th, 2008 at 8:50 am
Beka, You are talking about Dems….that’s how. If the superdelegate puts half a vote to Obama and half to Clinton, he/she is on the winning side either way it turns out! It’s not about principles, it’s about political positioning.
The simple fact that all but one “superdelegate tally” show Clinton with the lead, while the “voted” delegates and popular vote are in Obama’s favor shows how un-democratic the Democrat Party is and how much comtempt they have for the public. A “superdelegate” (member of the party elite) has the same power as tens of thousands of voters (take the total number of voters in the Dem primaries and divide it by the number of delegates that represent them) but superdelegates are not accountable to the voting public…..AND DEMS DON’T SEE A PROBLEM WITH THIS!!!! And they think it’s fair and a good idea!!! And the media and Democrat rank-and-file don’t call them out on it!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Democratic Primaries are a dog-and-pony show just to make those they feign to represent feel like they have a say. They really don’t care about you. At least they are honest in telling voters from MI and FL that they don’t care about their opinions. They are lying to the rest of the country….
May 9th, 2008 at 9:21 am
@Rich: While you may be right about the Democratic primary being a dog and pony show, your assessment of the “half a delegate” is off the mark.
She was endorsed by the superD from Democrats Abroad. That position gets just half a vote at the convention.
Granted, it’s still goofy. But it’s not because a single superD split his vote.
May 9th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Thanks for the clarification. Didn’t know that. Honestly, my first comment was intended to be a sarcastic joke - although I did not note it that way.
Democrats Abroad only get half of a delegate? Out of well over 4049 total? Hahahah. And that 4049 is the DNC’s and Obama’s opinion of the total. Hillary’s idea of the total number has shifted several times, but I believe the current total is 4417.
Talk about discrediting a candidate, hijacking a nomination process and dividing a party….anything to “win”!!
May 9th, 2008 at 5:46 pm
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