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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Focus Being Given To Cindy McCain&#8217;s Finances</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-410895</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More Focus Being Given To Cindy McCain&#8217;s Finances</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] new questions about massive credit card debt and unpaid taxes, and questions still looming as to where Cindy invests her money and why she won&#8217;t fully disclose her tax [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] new questions about massive credit card debt and unpaid taxes, and questions still looming as to where Cindy invests her money and why she won&#8217;t fully disclose her tax [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cindy McCain Releases 2006 Tax Returns</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-408165</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Cindy McCain Releases 2006 Tax Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 01:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2006 returns are a good start, but as I&#8217;ve said in the past, full disclosure for presidential candidates is becoming a must. Especially since it&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2006 returns are a good start, but as I&#8217;ve said in the past, full disclosure for presidential candidates is becoming a must. Especially since it&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote Of The Day</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-407143</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Quote Of The Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for and against releasing her tax returns: All Of McCainâ€™s Investments Are In His Wifeâ€™s Name? Do Cindy McCainâ€™s Tax Returns Matter? Cindy McCain Wonâ€™t Release Tax Returns   This entry was posted on Wednesday, May 14th, 2008 and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for and against releasing her tax returns: All Of McCainâ€™s Investments Are In His Wifeâ€™s Name? Do Cindy McCainâ€™s Tax Returns Matter? Cindy McCain Wonâ€™t Release Tax Returns   This entry was posted on Wednesday, May 14th, 2008 and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: djthedj</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406885</link>
		<dc:creator>djthedj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Dos for the best possible example of just how America got into the position where lying scum can rob the treasury blind while morons wave flags and sing their praises as heroes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Dos for the best possible example of just how America got into the position where lying scum can rob the treasury blind while morons wave flags and sing their praises as heroes.</p>
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		<title>By: Tully</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406826</link>
		<dc:creator>Tully</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thereâ€™s no reason why the income of spouses of a candidate shouldnâ€™t be a matter of public record.&quot;

Since you phrase it as &quot;a matter of public record,&quot; implying mandatory disclosure, let me point out that there certainly IS such a reason. It&#039;s called &quot;privacy,&quot; and it&#039;s considered a constitutional right. Candidates disclose their tax returns on a purely voluntarily basis--you seem to think are forced to by law, and want that to apply to their spouses as well. Such a law would be ruled unconstitutional in VERY short order. Their spouses aren&#039;t running for office. The specific details really aren&#039;t any of our business. 

Summary financial disclosure by the candidates themselves on the other hand, as atp2007 notes, IS appropriate. And required. That&#039;s not remotely the same as making tax returns a matter of public record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thereâ€™s no reason why the income of spouses of a candidate shouldnâ€™t be a matter of public record.&#8221;</p>
<p>Since you phrase it as &#8220;a matter of public record,&#8221; implying mandatory disclosure, let me point out that there certainly IS such a reason. It&#8217;s called &#8220;privacy,&#8221; and it&#8217;s considered a constitutional right. Candidates disclose their tax returns on a purely voluntarily basis&#8211;you seem to think are forced to by law, and want that to apply to their spouses as well. Such a law would be ruled unconstitutional in VERY short order. Their spouses aren&#8217;t running for office. The specific details really aren&#8217;t any of our business. </p>
<p>Summary financial disclosure by the candidates themselves on the other hand, as atp2007 notes, IS appropriate. And required. That&#8217;s not remotely the same as making tax returns a matter of public record.</p>
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		<title>By: atp2007</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406665</link>
		<dc:creator>atp2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 04:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For at least 25 years of my federal and state service I had to submit financial disclosure statements just so there would be no question as to my being economically biased in matters I decided.  I see no reason why the McCains or any other candidate have to disclose tax return figures.  I have no need to know how much they have, I just need to know what are their sources of income, what are their debts.  I only need to know they have shares in Gulf Oil, TNT Nuclear, etc. ...or owe Joe Blow money so I can tell whether the candidate or the candidate&#039;s spouse have an economic interest in the candidates decisions and positions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For at least 25 years of my federal and state service I had to submit financial disclosure statements just so there would be no question as to my being economically biased in matters I decided.  I see no reason why the McCains or any other candidate have to disclose tax return figures.  I have no need to know how much they have, I just need to know what are their sources of income, what are their debts.  I only need to know they have shares in Gulf Oil, TNT Nuclear, etc. &#8230;or owe Joe Blow money so I can tell whether the candidate or the candidate&#8217;s spouse have an economic interest in the candidates decisions and positions.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406651</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course there is a difference, the difference being that John Kerry was/is a disgusting liberal communist and John McCain is not and so we really donâ€™t need to be nearly as suspicious of his wife or her income.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Haha, well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Of course there is a difference, the difference being that John Kerry was/is a disgusting liberal communist and John McCain is not and so we really donâ€™t need to be nearly as suspicious of his wife or her income.</p></blockquote>
<p>Haha, well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406649</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, read this post, &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/all-of-mccains-investments-are-in-his-wifes-name/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;All Of McCainâ€™s Investments Are In His Wifeâ€™s Name?&lt;/a&gt;&quot;

If you read it, you&#039;ll know that the point is that she IS &quot;writing checks&quot; to the campaign because McCain invests under his wife&#039;s name and that finances his lifestyle, as well as &quot;her&quot; jet he uses to travel across the country, etc.

As far as looking at my tax returns, heh, I really have nothing to hide, and if Cindy will make hers public, I&#039;d GLADLY make min public too. Something tells me that&#039;s not going to happen. What&#039;s more, the two aren&#039;t anywhere close to being comparable. But let&#039;s go down that rabbit hole for a moment...you going to go looking in journalists&#039; tax returns because they cover a campaign? Seems like a very dangerous, slippery slope.

The point remains that the McCains aren&#039;t being transparent if they want us to believe that their finances are separate just because they file separately. That&#039;s the point I made in the linked post and its one I&#039;ll continue to make until &quot;their&quot; tax returns are released...because after 28 years of marriage, there&#039;s no way John hasn&#039;t shared in the Cindy&#039;s bounty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, read this post, &#8220;<a href="http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/all-of-mccains-investments-are-in-his-wifes-name/" rel="nofollow">All Of McCainâ€™s Investments Are In His Wifeâ€™s Name?</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>If you read it, you&#8217;ll know that the point is that she IS &#8220;writing checks&#8221; to the campaign because McCain invests under his wife&#8217;s name and that finances his lifestyle, as well as &#8220;her&#8221; jet he uses to travel across the country, etc.</p>
<p>As far as looking at my tax returns, heh, I really have nothing to hide, and if Cindy will make hers public, I&#8217;d GLADLY make min public too. Something tells me that&#8217;s not going to happen. What&#8217;s more, the two aren&#8217;t anywhere close to being comparable. But let&#8217;s go down that rabbit hole for a moment&#8230;you going to go looking in journalists&#8217; tax returns because they cover a campaign? Seems like a very dangerous, slippery slope.</p>
<p>The point remains that the McCains aren&#8217;t being transparent if they want us to believe that their finances are separate just because they file separately. That&#8217;s the point I made in the linked post and its one I&#8217;ll continue to make until &#8220;their&#8221; tax returns are released&#8230;because after 28 years of marriage, there&#8217;s no way John hasn&#8217;t shared in the Cindy&#8217;s bounty.</p>
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		<title>By: J.A.S.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/09/do-cindy-mccains-tax-returns-matter/comment-page-1/#comment-406641</link>
		<dc:creator>J.A.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 00:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Mrs. McCain is writing checks to the campaign, then go ahead and look at her returns. If she is not, then her returns are none of your business, nor mine, nor anyone else&#039;s. She is not the candidate. If spouses of candidates should be required to open their financial records, then why not political reporters? Let&#039;s see what is going in and out of their accounts. How about political bloggers? I think we should have the right to sift through your financial records if you are going to engage in partisan activity---if we are going to apply that standard to Mrs. McCain, that is. I could go for looking through Instapundit&#039;s bank records. Or Andrew Sullivan&#039;s. Or Greenwald&#039;s. Or Arianna Huffington&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Mrs. McCain is writing checks to the campaign, then go ahead and look at her returns. If she is not, then her returns are none of your business, nor mine, nor anyone else&#8217;s. She is not the candidate. If spouses of candidates should be required to open their financial records, then why not political reporters? Let&#8217;s see what is going in and out of their accounts. How about political bloggers? I think we should have the right to sift through your financial records if you are going to engage in partisan activity&#8212;if we are going to apply that standard to Mrs. McCain, that is. I could go for looking through Instapundit&#8217;s bank records. Or Andrew Sullivan&#8217;s. Or Greenwald&#8217;s. Or Arianna Huffington&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All Of McCain&#8217;s Investments Are In His Wife&#8217;s Name?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; All Of McCain&#8217;s Investments Are In His Wife&#8217;s Name?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] folks, I&#8217;ve done a little bit more digging on this issue after my post calling for Cindy McCain to disclose her tax returns, and what I&#8217;ve found makes me really not buy any arguments that excuse the McCain&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] folks, I&#8217;ve done a little bit more digging on this issue after my post calling for Cindy McCain to disclose her tax returns, and what I&#8217;ve found makes me really not buy any arguments that excuse the McCain&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The candidates that released their spouse&#039;s returns lost.</description>
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		<title>By: Dos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course there is a difference, the difference being that John Kerry was/is a disgusting liberal communist and John McCain is not and so we really don&#039;t need to be nearly as suspicious of his wife or her income.  

Now, on to the real issue posed to me by a friend in Denmark:

&quot;We in  Denmark cannot figure out why you  are even bothering to hold an election.  On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.

On the other side, you have a true war hero married  to a woman with a huge bosom who owns a beer distributorship.

Is there a contest here?&quot;

Exactly my friend, exactly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course there is a difference, the difference being that John Kerry was/is a disgusting liberal communist and John McCain is not and so we really don&#8217;t need to be nearly as suspicious of his wife or her income.  </p>
<p>Now, on to the real issue posed to me by a friend in Denmark:</p>
<p>&#8220;We in  Denmark cannot figure out why you  are even bothering to hold an election.  On one side, you have a bitch who is a lawyer, married to a lawyer, and a lawyer who is married to a bitch who is a lawyer.</p>
<p>On the other side, you have a true war hero married  to a woman with a huge bosom who owns a beer distributorship.</p>
<p>Is there a contest here?&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly my friend, exactly.</p>
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