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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Election, Religion is Taking a Hit</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408800</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This Election, Religion is Taking a Hit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you all are likely aware, Barack Obama left his church this weekend. While the pulpit of his church has certainly served as a stage for some rather [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408766</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BenG;

I think you missed my point.  My opinion is that Obama wasn&#039;t a member of Trinity based on any strong belief at all; I&#039;m not talking matters of faith and belief here.  If you understand the size and impact of Trinity, you understand that it is as much as an activist community nexus of influence as it is a house of worship, perhaps more.  Obama used that influence to his advantage to climb up in Chicago and Illinois.  Now that Trinity is no longer useful (and may be hurting him) he leaves.  Not on faith or belief but on politics.

And while a person&#039;s religious affiliation doesn&#039;t *define* who they are, it certainly speaks to who they are generally.  Saying that you can&#039;t learn something about a person based on their church is about as accurate as saying that you can&#039;t learn something about a person based on their politcal party affiliation.  If someone was a member of the Republican party for 20 years, would you assume that they believed most of the core party platform or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BenG;</p>
<p>I think you missed my point.  My opinion is that Obama wasn&#8217;t a member of Trinity based on any strong belief at all; I&#8217;m not talking matters of faith and belief here.  If you understand the size and impact of Trinity, you understand that it is as much as an activist community nexus of influence as it is a house of worship, perhaps more.  Obama used that influence to his advantage to climb up in Chicago and Illinois.  Now that Trinity is no longer useful (and may be hurting him) he leaves.  Not on faith or belief but on politics.</p>
<p>And while a person&#8217;s religious affiliation doesn&#8217;t *define* who they are, it certainly speaks to who they are generally.  Saying that you can&#8217;t learn something about a person based on their church is about as accurate as saying that you can&#8217;t learn something about a person based on their politcal party affiliation.  If someone was a member of the Republican party for 20 years, would you assume that they believed most of the core party platform or not?</p>
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		<title>By: KingGoompa</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408755</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 13:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think the smears about Obama being a (stealth) Muslim are downright silly, I do have to wonder how all Trinity business could come as a surprise to Obama. Understandably, Obama can&#039;t be held responsible for what goes on in the church, but he was a member there for decades. Even if he doesn&#039;t agree with what Wright and the rest of the Loonie Toons at Trinity preach, he certainly tolerated it for a long time and apparently went back for more. So it&#039;s not just a guilt-by-association smear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think the smears about Obama being a (stealth) Muslim are downright silly, I do have to wonder how all Trinity business could come as a surprise to Obama. Understandably, Obama can&#8217;t be held responsible for what goes on in the church, but he was a member there for decades. Even if he doesn&#8217;t agree with what Wright and the rest of the Loonie Toons at Trinity preach, he certainly tolerated it for a long time and apparently went back for more. So it&#8217;s not just a guilt-by-association smear.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408731</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This church in question seems very weird to me and I have to wonder why anybody would wanna be associated with itsâ€™ strangeness&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I think a lot of voters wonder why as well, especially considering the church is not just weird or strange, its also blatantly racist and divisive, as well as advocating marxist socialism.

&quot;The Christian right&quot; has always been demonized by the left and Democrats in general, even by Barrack himself, as hijacking the Republican party and bringing this country backwards; it has always been a legitimate campaign issue in that regard.  Perhaps now, as Reverend Wright once said, &lt;em&gt;&quot;The chickensss... are coming home... to roossst!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This church in question seems very weird to me and I have to wonder why anybody would wanna be associated with itsâ€™ strangeness</p></blockquote>
<p>I think a lot of voters wonder why as well, especially considering the church is not just weird or strange, its also blatantly racist and divisive, as well as advocating marxist socialism.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Christian right&#8221; has always been demonized by the left and Democrats in general, even by Barrack himself, as hijacking the Republican party and bringing this country backwards; it has always been a legitimate campaign issue in that regard.  Perhaps now, as Reverend Wright once said, <em>&#8220;The chickensss&#8230; are coming home&#8230; to roossst!</em></p>
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		<title>By: BenG</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408697</link>
		<dc:creator>BenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exiled;

Yea, whatever... The whole notion of what church one belongs to as defining the person is ridiculous. Churches are filled with so many people all with different designs  and purposes. This church in question seems very weird to me and I have to wonder why anybody would wanna be associated with its&#039; strangeness, but that&#039;s a personal thing and I can&#039;t know why, so I&#039;m not bothered by it. 

I&#039;ve seen many religious events over the past few years do more insult and harm to more people on this planet than good and I have to ask what&#039;s wrong with these institutions? It&#039;s not the people attending the functions that deserve the criticism, it&#039;s the institutions that shuld be scrutinized. 

As we&#039;ve seen too clearly the past few years, professing your devotion to any religious group doesn&#039;t make you morally superior. That comes from some place internal. Me thinks the more one protests, the more one has to be fearful of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exiled;</p>
<p>Yea, whatever&#8230; The whole notion of what church one belongs to as defining the person is ridiculous. Churches are filled with so many people all with different designs  and purposes. This church in question seems very weird to me and I have to wonder why anybody would wanna be associated with its&#8217; strangeness, but that&#8217;s a personal thing and I can&#8217;t know why, so I&#8217;m not bothered by it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen many religious events over the past few years do more insult and harm to more people on this planet than good and I have to ask what&#8217;s wrong with these institutions? It&#8217;s not the people attending the functions that deserve the criticism, it&#8217;s the institutions that shuld be scrutinized. </p>
<p>As we&#8217;ve seen too clearly the past few years, professing your devotion to any religious group doesn&#8217;t make you morally superior. That comes from some place internal. Me thinks the more one protests, the more one has to be fearful of.</p>
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		<title>By: Below The Beltway</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408695</link>
		<dc:creator>Below The Beltway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Barack Obama Throws His Church Under The Bus...&lt;/strong&gt;


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		<title>By: Silvering</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/05/31/obama-quits-trinity/comment-page-1/#comment-408678</link>
		<dc:creator>Silvering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donkle&#039;s thought is that Obama doesn&#039;t really believe the things that Wright believes and (as evident from the hooting and applause that feature in every embarrassing video) that the greater body of the Trinity United congregation believe.

That&#039;s probably right.  Obama isn&#039;t a bigot; he&#039;s a bigot snuggler.  Obama&#039;s been promoting Wright for years, with money, face-time, and praise.

Here&#039;s one thing black racism has in common with white racism---it ends up hurting black people more than white people.   Obama has had a part in the self-wounding of the Trinity United congregation, and this is a shameful thing.

What Obama did is what an ambitious man would do, but I can&#039;t believe its what any good or honest man would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donkle&#8217;s thought is that Obama doesn&#8217;t really believe the things that Wright believes and (as evident from the hooting and applause that feature in every embarrassing video) that the greater body of the Trinity United congregation believe.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably right.  Obama isn&#8217;t a bigot; he&#8217;s a bigot snuggler.  Obama&#8217;s been promoting Wright for years, with money, face-time, and praise.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one thing black racism has in common with white racism&#8212;it ends up hurting black people more than white people.   Obama has had a part in the self-wounding of the Trinity United congregation, and this is a shameful thing.</p>
<p>What Obama did is what an ambitious man would do, but I can&#8217;t believe its what any good or honest man would do.</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trinity has served Obama politically for twenty years, when his stage was limited to the local electorate.  Now that his ambitions require him to reach beyond a single geography or race, Trinity is no longer politically advantageous; thus this is no surprise that he is leaving.  Trinity&#039;s message hasn&#039;t seemed to change substantially over the past two decades, so one must naturally ask, &quot;Why now?&quot;  Despite all the rhetoric, Obama is demonstrating that his approach is simply a polished, motivational version of politics as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trinity has served Obama politically for twenty years, when his stage was limited to the local electorate.  Now that his ambitions require him to reach beyond a single geography or race, Trinity is no longer politically advantageous; thus this is no surprise that he is leaving.  Trinity&#8217;s message hasn&#8217;t seemed to change substantially over the past two decades, so one must naturally ask, &#8220;Why now?&#8221;  Despite all the rhetoric, Obama is demonstrating that his approach is simply a polished, motivational version of politics as usual.</p>
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