Comments on: More US Forces Killed In Afghanistan Last Month Than Iraq http://donklephant.com/2008/06/14/more-us-forces-killed-in-afghanistan-last-month-than-iraq/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:20:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Donklephant » Blog Archive » Meanwhile, In Afghanistan… http://donklephant.com/2008/06/14/more-us-forces-killed-in-afghanistan-last-month-than-iraq/#comment-410572 Donklephant » Blog Archive » Meanwhile, In Afghanistan… Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:39:27 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6005#comment-410572 [...] reminder…last month the number of American military casualties in Afghanistan were actually more than we had in Iraq. This entry was posted on Friday, June 27th, 2008 and is [...] [...] reminder…last month the number of American military casualties in Afghanistan were actually more than we had in Iraq. This entry was posted on Friday, June 27th, 2008 and is [...]

]]> By: James http://donklephant.com/2008/06/14/more-us-forces-killed-in-afghanistan-last-month-than-iraq/#comment-409771 James Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:30:28 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6005#comment-409771 17 dead in one month in Iraq? And your response is this? I understand the cost argument of bringing our troops home. To be honest the second Iraqi troops won in Basra, I thought "well, they can take care of themselves now." But 17 dead in one month is nearing the total mortality rates in the U.S. for people between the ages of 20-45! 17/150,000 = 11.333 per 100,000 US Mortality for ages 25-45 = 11 per 100,000 (according to the CDC) That is in no uncertain terms absolutely remarkable. You're only looking at American Forces; the AP was looking at all coalition forces; to call our allies "nominal" might make sense in Iraq, but most certainly not for Afghanistan. ISAF has primarily been run by non-Americans and three of the four regional commands are under non-American control. The numbers look more like this: Iraq ~150,000 Troops including coalition forces (and falling as we go down to pre-surge levels) Afghanistan ~40,000 Troops including coalition forces depending on the whims of national politics. France just send another 800 troops and the U.S. Marines went in. Regarding contractors, there are roughly 160,000 in Iraq, about half of whom are Iraqi. Of the rest, the vast majority are not security persay, rather reconstruction and so forth. This also does not take into account the fact that there are contractors in droves in Afghanistan as well. 17 dead in one month in Iraq? And your response is this? I understand the cost argument of bringing our troops home. To be honest the second Iraqi troops won in Basra, I thought “well, they can take care of themselves now.” But 17 dead in one month is nearing the total mortality rates in the U.S. for people between the ages of 20-45!
17/150,000 = 11.333 per 100,000
US Mortality for ages 25-45 = 11 per 100,000 (according to the CDC)
That is in no uncertain terms absolutely remarkable.

You’re only looking at American Forces; the AP was looking at all coalition forces; to call our allies “nominal” might make sense in Iraq, but most certainly not for Afghanistan. ISAF has primarily been run by non-Americans and three of the four regional commands are under non-American control. The numbers look more like this:

Iraq
~150,000 Troops including coalition forces (and falling as we go down to pre-surge levels)

Afghanistan
~40,000 Troops including coalition forces depending on the whims of national politics. France just send another 800 troops and the U.S. Marines went in.

Regarding contractors, there are roughly 160,000 in Iraq, about half of whom are Iraqi. Of the rest, the vast majority are not security persay, rather reconstruction and so forth. This also does not take into account the fact that there are contractors in droves in Afghanistan as well.

]]> By: gerryf http://donklephant.com/2008/06/14/more-us-forces-killed-in-afghanistan-last-month-than-iraq/#comment-409770 gerryf Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:55:38 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6005#comment-409770 Yes, as soon as we can say Mission Accomplished like we did in Iraq just over 5 years ago.... Lemme see, the mission in Afghanistan was to get Osama bin Laden dead or alive.....drat, another total failure by the Bushies. What was the mission in Iraq again..oh yeah....weapons of mass destruction...oops....bring freedom and prosperity to the Iraqi people....oops...9/11!...oops...they're Saddam is conspiring with terrorists...oops...not the oil, anything but the oil....ooops Yes, as soon as we can say Mission Accomplished like we did in Iraq just over 5 years ago….

Lemme see, the mission in Afghanistan was to get Osama bin Laden dead or alive…..drat, another total failure by the Bushies.

What was the mission in Iraq again..oh yeah….weapons of mass destruction…oops….bring freedom and prosperity to the Iraqi people….oops…9/11!…oops…they’re Saddam is conspiring with terrorists…oops…not the oil, anything but the oil….ooops

]]> By: Jimmy the Dhimmi http://donklephant.com/2008/06/14/more-us-forces-killed-in-afghanistan-last-month-than-iraq/#comment-409759 Jimmy the Dhimmi Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:40:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6005#comment-409759 We've been spending billions on this fruitless war in Afghanistan for 8 years, we need to bring all of these troops home now so we spend the money on wind-turbines, and try to ween ourselves off of foreign sources of heroin. We’ve been spending billions on this fruitless war in Afghanistan for 8 years, we need to bring all of these troops home now so we spend the money on wind-turbines, and try to ween ourselves off of foreign sources of heroin.

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