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	<title>Comments on: Phil Gramm: America Is A Nation Of Whiners</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/07/10/phil-gramm-america-is-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-411471</link>
		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does this remind anyone (old enough) of Carter&#039;s malaise speech?   It&#039;s an old story for leaders to blame consumers when those leaders have no idea what they&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does this remind anyone (old enough) of Carter&#8217;s malaise speech?   It&#8217;s an old story for leaders to blame consumers when those leaders have no idea what they&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/07/10/phil-gramm-america-is-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-411462</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy is right.  When times get tough economically, Americans dont &quot;whine,&quot;  they cling bitterly to religion and become gun-toting xenophobes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy is right.  When times get tough economically, Americans dont &#8220;whine,&#8221;  they cling bitterly to religion and become gun-toting xenophobes.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/07/10/phil-gramm-america-is-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-411421</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when well-to-do people from the comfort ans security of a secure vantage point extol their sage advice on us less &quot;understanding&quot; folks. You see, if only we had the economic breathing room &quot;some&quot; people had I might actually have the leisure time to afford myself these same assumptive opinions as mister Gramm. Or as they would say in the less posh parts of America. Walk a day in my shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when well-to-do people from the comfort ans security of a secure vantage point extol their sage advice on us less &#8220;understanding&#8221; folks. You see, if only we had the economic breathing room &#8220;some&#8221; people had I might actually have the leisure time to afford myself these same assumptive opinions as mister Gramm. Or as they would say in the less posh parts of America. Walk a day in my shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McCain Renounces Gramm&#8217;s Comments</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/07/10/phil-gramm-america-is-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-411420</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; McCain Renounces Gramm&#8217;s Comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John McCain advisor and former U.S. Senator Phil Gramm disparaged Americans as â€œa nation of whinersâ€ in a â€œmental recession,â€ McCain had no choice but to publically [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John McCain advisor and former U.S. Senator Phil Gramm disparaged Americans as â€œa nation of whinersâ€ in a â€œmental recession,â€ McCain had no choice but to publically [...]</p>
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		<title>By: J. Harden</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/07/10/phil-gramm-america-is-a-nation-of-whiners/comment-page-1/#comment-411402</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Harden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always find it funny when some refers to &quot;real people&quot; -- as opposed to all the cyborgs and inflatable dolls walking around.  What must I do to qualify as a &quot;real&quot; person?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always find it funny when some refers to &#8220;real people&#8221; &#8212; as opposed to all the cyborgs and inflatable dolls walking around.  What must I do to qualify as a &#8220;real&#8221; person?</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Gramm is correct the the economy has not itself tanked. 

The problem, however is that for 99% of Americans &quot;the economy&quot; really means &quot;my economy.&quot; Recent developments going on in &quot;my economy&quot;  (meaning each individual&#039;s perceptions) relate very closely to one single development and the subsequent ripples.

It&#039;s about fuel prices, stupid. High oil prices have led to rippling inflation which is putting pressure both on everyday folks pocketbooks and on monetary policy.

Now, it&#039;s customary within the confines of the liberal economic liturgy to talk about stagnant wages, lost manufacturing jobs, and so on. But the sad fact is that ship has sailed. Globalization is wave we can&#039;t protect ourselves from, only surf. Manufacturing is never going to be what it was, and the american workers of today and tomorrow WILL have to compete with equally skilled and highly motivated foreign workers. That&#039;s all there is to it.

So our culture does need to collectively wake up and smell the coffee. Jobs like making cars at $40+/hr plus awesome bennies and a cushy pension? Forget it. That is OVER. I have a master&#039;s degree and work in a relatively white-collar profession, and my compensation is nowhere near what GM workers have received.

It&#039;s well past time for Americans to understand the following: the age when large numbers of relatively unskilled workers did very well for themselves financially was a historical aberration. This period lasted long enough for some Americans to think it was a birthright. Well, it&#039;s over. Finished. Kaput. Tell your kids to pay attention in school, work hard, and develop serious 21st century skills. Reform social institutions around a world where folks may have 5, 10, 15, 20 different jobs in a lifetime. Stop making light of the fact that &quot;hey I was never no good at math and dad did ok.... .&quot;

End rant. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Gramm is correct the the economy has not itself tanked. </p>
<p>The problem, however is that for 99% of Americans &#8220;the economy&#8221; really means &#8220;my economy.&#8221; Recent developments going on in &#8220;my economy&#8221;  (meaning each individual&#8217;s perceptions) relate very closely to one single development and the subsequent ripples.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s about fuel prices, stupid. High oil prices have led to rippling inflation which is putting pressure both on everyday folks pocketbooks and on monetary policy.</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s customary within the confines of the liberal economic liturgy to talk about stagnant wages, lost manufacturing jobs, and so on. But the sad fact is that ship has sailed. Globalization is wave we can&#8217;t protect ourselves from, only surf. Manufacturing is never going to be what it was, and the american workers of today and tomorrow WILL have to compete with equally skilled and highly motivated foreign workers. That&#8217;s all there is to it.</p>
<p>So our culture does need to collectively wake up and smell the coffee. Jobs like making cars at $40+/hr plus awesome bennies and a cushy pension? Forget it. That is OVER. I have a master&#8217;s degree and work in a relatively white-collar profession, and my compensation is nowhere near what GM workers have received.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s well past time for Americans to understand the following: the age when large numbers of relatively unskilled workers did very well for themselves financially was a historical aberration. This period lasted long enough for some Americans to think it was a birthright. Well, it&#8217;s over. Finished. Kaput. Tell your kids to pay attention in school, work hard, and develop serious 21st century skills. Reform social institutions around a world where folks may have 5, 10, 15, 20 different jobs in a lifetime. Stop making light of the fact that &#8220;hey I was never no good at math and dad did ok&#8230;. .&#8221;</p>
<p>End rant. :-)</p>
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