Comments on: “Biggest Celebrity” Is Apparently McCain’s Strategy http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 07:33:07 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jim S http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412809 Jim S Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:41:34 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412809 Wow. And when I think about McCain I think of someone completely out of touch with the 21st Century and stuck back in the days when he was first elected to Congress. McCain is the parent that tells us what he remembers about the travails he faced when young and doesn't understand the very different but equally challenging environment of today that faces the people Hilton and Spears age who aren't wealthy. Maybe they could e-mail him about it. Oh, that's right... Wow. And when I think about McCain I think of someone completely out of touch with the 21st Century and stuck back in the days when he was first elected to Congress. McCain is the parent that tells us what he remembers about the travails he faced when young and doesn’t understand the very different but equally challenging environment of today that faces the people Hilton and Spears age who aren’t wealthy. Maybe they could e-mail him about it. Oh, that’s right…

]]> By: Mudslide http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412800 Mudslide Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:29:13 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412800 Just because Obama appears 'Cool' and 'hip' doesn't mean he is not the adult in the room. As example I give you McCain always trying to make a joke, many of which land him in trouble like the one about killing Iranians with cigarettes or his infamous gorilla rape joke from years ago. Deep down McCain wants to be the celebrity that Obama is. I don't know about the rest of you but I am so tired of our president being a moron. I don't want any more jokes (lame of otherwise) from our president. Just because Obama appears ‘Cool’ and ‘hip’ doesn’t mean he is not the adult in the room. As example I give you McCain always trying to make a joke, many of which land him in trouble like the one about killing Iranians with cigarettes or his infamous gorilla rape joke from years ago. Deep down McCain wants to be the celebrity that Obama is. I don’t know about the rest of you but I am so tired of our president being a moron. I don’t want any more jokes (lame of otherwise) from our president.

]]> By: J. Harden http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412798 J. Harden Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:13:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412798 I think some are misjudging the McCain ads. They don't necessarily center around "celebrity" (although that is party of it) -- it is "adult" versus "young people" or "kids". Obama has taken the occasional stab at McCains age, well, these ad take a shot on the core demographic of Obama supporters - 20 somethings pop-culture types. When I think McCain, I think "adult" and "experience". When I think Obama, I think "cool", "hip" and "communicator". The question here is...does the US need a parent-president (McCain) or a friend president (Obama). I think some are misjudging the McCain ads. They don’t necessarily center around “celebrity” (although that is party of it) — it is “adult” versus “young people” or “kids”. Obama has taken the occasional stab at McCains age, well, these ad take a shot on the core demographic of Obama supporters – 20 somethings pop-culture types. When I think McCain, I think “adult” and “experience”. When I think Obama, I think “cool”, “hip” and “communicator”. The question here is…does the US need a parent-president (McCain) or a friend president (Obama).

]]> By: CaptainUltimate http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412795 CaptainUltimate Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:22:09 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412795 I, for one, am pretty distressed that Paris' ad had more policy detail than any of McCain's I, for one, am pretty distressed that Paris’ ad had more policy detail than any of McCain’s

]]> By: kranky kritter http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412794 kranky kritter Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:12:36 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412794 Damn, that's a really good point, Justin. Has any Republican in the last 20 years gotten more cachet from milking the public celebrity cow? Sounds like time for Obama's team to do an accounting of this...appearances on SNL, the Daily Show, etc, etc. "John McCain has lots of experience....as a celebrity." Save that one for the first debate. As far as Paris Hilton goes, I think she helps out McCain far more than Obama by extending the life of this ripple with her own flash. McCain's camp got the easy joke that Hilton's energy p[lan is more comprehensive than OBama's. Damn, that’s a really good point, Justin. Has any Republican in the last 20 years gotten more cachet from milking the public celebrity cow? Sounds like time for Obama’s team to do an accounting of this…appearances on SNL, the Daily Show, etc, etc. “John McCain has lots of experience….as a celebrity.” Save that one for the first debate.

As far as Paris Hilton goes, I think she helps out McCain far more than Obama by extending the life of this ripple with her own flash. McCain’s camp got the easy joke that Hilton’s energy p[lan is more comprehensive than OBama’s.

]]> By: rusty075 http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412791 rusty075 Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:06:04 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412791 I don’t think the goal of this theme is really to convince indy’s or undecideds to move into the GOP camp or to pull Dem leaners to switch sides, as much as it is an attempt to fire up the dozing GOP base. It’s an attempt to paint Obama as “immoral by proxy” to fire up the Family Values crowd. But you have to wonder if they haven’t thought through the consequences. If you were in the Obama camp and you wanted to reinforce their “old vs new politics” and “McCain has no new ideas” themes this is exactly the opportunity you’ve been waiting for: a lame “old style” attack that is unlikely to do any real damage but gives you the chance to take the high road. The easiest way to respond to this attack is for Obama to push policy discussion. And to do that he has to start talking specifics, not just Hope/Change. You can already see that happening in the past week with the energy policy discussions. The problem is that the more Obama has to talk specifics the more it highlights McCain’s lack of new ideas, while at the same time defusing McCain’s other central theme of Obama being “all talk, no action”. And then for McCain to respond to the Energy plan discussion with yet another childish comeback, the tire gauge handout, only reinforces the point Obama has been trying to make for months. I don’t think the goal of this theme is really to convince indy’s or undecideds to move into the GOP camp or to pull Dem leaners to switch sides, as much as it is an attempt to fire up the dozing GOP base. It’s an attempt to paint Obama as “immoral by proxy” to fire up the Family Values crowd.

But you have to wonder if they haven’t thought through the consequences. If you were in the Obama camp and you wanted to reinforce their “old vs new politics” and “McCain has no new ideas” themes this is exactly the opportunity you’ve been waiting for: a lame “old style” attack that is unlikely to do any real damage but gives you the chance to take the high road. The easiest way to respond to this attack is for Obama to push policy discussion. And to do that he has to start talking specifics, not just Hope/Change. You can already see that happening in the past week with the energy policy discussions. The problem is that the more Obama has to talk specifics the more it highlights McCain’s lack of new ideas, while at the same time defusing McCain’s other central theme of Obama being “all talk, no action”. And then for McCain to respond to the Energy plan discussion with yet another childish comeback, the tire gauge handout, only reinforces the point Obama has been trying to make for months.

]]> By: gerryf http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412781 gerryf Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:03:47 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412781 What's the "wrinkly white haired guy" saying now? http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d?ocid=msne_parishiltonadvideo As annoying as I think she is, does McCain really want to mess with someone with her talent for endless self-promotion? When you get mildly winged by Paris Hilton, that's pretty sad What’s the “wrinkly white haired guy” saying now?

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d?ocid=msne_parishiltonadvideo

As annoying as I think she is, does McCain really want to mess with someone with her talent for endless self-promotion?

When you get mildly winged by Paris Hilton, that’s pretty sad

]]> By: gerryf http://donklephant.com/2008/08/06/biggest-celebrity-is-apparently-mccains-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-412780 gerryf Wed, 06 Aug 2008 17:01:16 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6668#comment-412780 It's going to get worse--how much worse is hard to say, but now Paris Hilton is taking a shot at the "wrinkly white haired guy" I have no idea if I can embed, so there's a link below See more <a href="http://www.funnyordie.com/paris_hilton" rel="nofollow">Paris Hilton</a> videos at Funny or Die http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d?ocid=msne_parishiltonadvideo It’s going to get worse–how much worse is hard to say, but now Paris Hilton is taking a shot at the “wrinkly white haired guy”

I have no idea if I can embed, so there’s a link below

See more Paris Hilton videos at Funny or Die

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/64ad536a6d?ocid=msne_parishiltonadvideo

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