Comments on: We Deserve Better than Faith Forum http://donklephant.com/2008/08/18/we-deserve-better-than-faith-forum/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:24:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: gljunket http://donklephant.com/2008/08/18/we-deserve-better-than-faith-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-413528 gljunket Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:02:12 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6933#comment-413528 Unfortunately, this post is already getting buried by all the polling and byte-of-the-day frenzy, but here's my two cents worth on this one..... As usual, I line up pretty well with the "Annoying Independent." Actually, Rick Warren's "Purpose Driven Life" got me started down the "common ground, Centrist" path when I was struggling with separation of church and state issues a couple years ago. So I think he added some credibility to a "wedge issue" over the typical network talking head moderator. But the divisive abortion "debate," with the waffling attempts to moderate their position while patronizing "their base," still left me with my frustrating question: Why doesn't some candidate, in the spirit of a live-and-let-live Centrist, just say, "I have my personal belief which is no secret....I'll be glad to share it in a different context....but I choose not to impose my belief on others on this issue. That's not a critical function of the office I'm seeking. Next question....." Meanwhile, I suggest one change to your last paragraph......"Obama and McCain SHOULD give us...." substantive campaigns, but......is there any hope for that? Unfortunately, this post is already getting buried by all the polling and byte-of-the-day frenzy, but here’s my two cents worth on this one…..

As usual, I line up pretty well with the “Annoying Independent.” Actually, Rick Warren’s “Purpose Driven Life” got me started down the “common ground, Centrist” path when I was struggling with separation of church and state issues a couple years ago. So I think he added some credibility to a “wedge issue” over the typical network talking head moderator.

But the divisive abortion “debate,” with the waffling attempts to moderate their position while patronizing “their base,” still left me with my frustrating question: Why doesn’t some candidate, in the spirit of a live-and-let-live Centrist, just say, “I have my personal belief which is no secret….I’ll be glad to share it in a different context….but I choose not to impose my belief on others on this issue. That’s not a critical function of the office I’m seeking. Next question…..”

Meanwhile, I suggest one change to your last paragraph……”Obama and McCain SHOULD give us….” substantive campaigns, but……is there any hope for that?

]]> By: Agnostick http://donklephant.com/2008/08/18/we-deserve-better-than-faith-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-413525 Agnostick Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:05:50 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6933#comment-413525 <b>THE HALL OF FAME</b> Oral Roberts Jim & Tammy Bakker Jimmy Swaggart Peter Popoff Mike Warnke Robert Tilton Frank Houston John Paulk Douglas Goodman Kent Hovind Ted Haggard Paul Barnes Lonnie Latham Richard Roberts Bishop Earl Paulk Coy Privette Phil Driscoll Joe Barron **************************** Will Rick Warren make it into the Hall of Fame? As a purported "pastor" and "spiritual leader" whose main focus is on "growth" and "money"... it's just a matter of time. Matthew 6 Agnostick agnostick@excite.com http://marciaford.blogspot.com THE HALL OF FAME

Oral Roberts

Jim & Tammy Bakker

Jimmy Swaggart

Peter Popoff

Mike Warnke

Robert Tilton

Frank Houston

John Paulk

Douglas Goodman

Kent Hovind

Ted Haggard

Paul Barnes

Lonnie Latham

Richard Roberts

Bishop Earl Paulk

Coy Privette

Phil Driscoll

Joe Barron

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Will Rick Warren make it into the Hall of Fame? As a purported “pastor” and “spiritual leader” whose main focus is on “growth” and “money”… it’s just a matter of time.

Matthew 6

Agnostick
agnostick@excite.com
http://marciaford.blogspot.com

]]> By: kranky kritter http://donklephant.com/2008/08/18/we-deserve-better-than-faith-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-413522 kranky kritter Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:25:53 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6933#comment-413522 Amen, Alan. (No, seriously. I mean it. Amen.) Amen, Alan. (No, seriously. I mean it. Amen.)

]]> By: gerryf http://donklephant.com/2008/08/18/we-deserve-better-than-faith-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-413518 gerryf Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:36:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=6933#comment-413518 fwiw, I actually enjoyed Warren's sit down with the candidates. I didn't like that the candidates didn't appear together (other than a little photo op), and I look forward to actual debates on the issues, but there were some nice moments during the discussions. I thought Obama did very well in what one could consider a somewhat hostile environment -- Warren no doubt deserves credit for this. I thought McCain came across as far more human then I'd seen him in a long while. Furthermore, there was more than just religious topics during the discussion. You actually got to see something of the candidates you DON'T seeing during debates...and that's OK. But yes, let's have some meaningful debates, too. fwiw, I actually enjoyed Warren’s sit down with the candidates.

I didn’t like that the candidates didn’t appear together (other than a little photo op), and I look forward to actual debates on the issues, but there were some nice moments during the discussions.

I thought Obama did very well in what one could consider a somewhat hostile environment — Warren no doubt deserves credit for this.

I thought McCain came across as far more human then I’d seen him in a long while.

Furthermore, there was more than just religious topics during the discussion. You actually got to see something of the candidates you DON’T seeing during debates…and that’s OK.

But yes, let’s have some meaningful debates, too.

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