On September 5, Obama (Obama Bin….?) gave one of his
“speeches” in which he was looking at
notes prepared for him by his “experts,”

As was inevitable he touched on the “energy issue” and how the Democrats would use all resources. One of the resources he
read off his notes was “Hydrogen.” That would be difficult, the
Candidate said, because there are just so many rivers and the
geography makes it difficult to harness them all or words to that
effect.
The Candidate obviously does not distinguish between hydroelectric power (of which there is only so much available and only about 12 to 20 percent of the total electric power generation in the USA is hydroelectric)
and the chimera of using hydrogen as “energy source” which does not
exist in nature and must therefore be produced either by electrolysis
or natural gas reformation both of which processes require
theoretically as much energy as one can obtain from the “produced”
hydrogen and in practice about 60% more. Therefore hydrogen is not a fuel in
the ordinary sense but only an energy carrier (just as a battery is, for instance)
and one still has to get the energy elsewhere in order to produce hydrogen.
Obama apparently does not know this although if he spent an afternoon
with a few handbooks he might be able to grasp this “issue” as in fact
everyone can and, in our opinion, should.
But he will not do that, he seems too lazy.

good luck with that” – Ian

Im not trying to be condescending to you in any way ian but that is altogether possible, the technologies to remove the need for oil are already here. Only problem is the powers that be dont want you to know that and try very hard to cover it up..

electric cars are at the point now that they can go 300 miles on one charge (more than enough for 95% of americans) and the other 5% could very easily be run on ethanol and biodiesel made here in the US

BUT oil companies bought the patent (having a brain fart right now i cant remember if its called copyright or patent lol.. neway) to the batteries needed to provide the power to those cars in the late 90s to prevent electric cars from developing.

solar/wind/geothermal/nuclear power can very easily take over all our energy needs whether they are installed directly into your home by you or built in large numbers by the government.

only problem there is there is no government funding to build them in large numbers and government aid to help you install solar panels a windmill or a geothermal system at home.

and nuclear, yes, it does create radioctive waste.. but that is much more managable than CO2 emissions from coal/oil, and they have developed a technology to increase the efficiency of the fuel used at those plants by 10x (the fuel is useless after only 10% has been used because the other 90% has been covered in contaminants, theyve found a way to remove the contaminants now)

problem there is that the government hasnt been able to build any new nuclear plants since the incident at 3 mile island, because any nearby towns have to OK it’s construction. Which is understandable, but people need to realize that safety procedures and technology have come a long way since then.. the chances of that happening now are probably less than the chances of earth getting hit by a large meteor in the next 50 years..

“Typical political rhetoric and promises of change just by allocating tax money differently.

Barack Obama is an idiot just like the rest of the politicians who have made promises like this in the past with nothing ever being accomplished.

NEVER TRUST A LAWYER” -james murphy

james… im not quite sure what politicians youre talking about? Bush? i know you cant be talking about Clinton.. considering he got this country what wouldve been its first lasting budget surplus since 1929 (only to have it destroyed by Bush and turned into the largest deficit this country has ever seen). think of the debt we couldve paid off with that?!

dont believe me?
http://traxel.com/deficit/deficit-constant-dollars.png
theres a graph i found online

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3598/deficitconstantdollarscpo1.jpg
theres one i modified to show the presidents

get over yourself, all politicians arent out to get you.. only republicans :).. (to be fair, it wasnt that way until nixon) but the national debt is $9.5 trillion now so i suggest you vote in a democrat because its going to take another 20 years without a republican to pay that off.

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And jimmy, im not even going to bother with you.. you would probably still vote republican if it was Osama bin laden running.. I can truthfully say that i would vote for someone other than a democrat if i thought that they would do a better job, but i really dont think that day will ever come because independents dont have enough pull (not to mention, judging by the interviews ive seen of him, bob barr is a joke) and republican values are greed fear and corruption. i used to like McCain because he stood against that type of politics (even if he did still subscribe to that “trickle down” theory which is complete BS.) But he has changed.. well, either that or i never saw the true McCain.. the whole, 7 houses (11 counting guest homes) a parking lot and partial ownership of the diamondbacks really caught me off gaurd, i never expected him to be that rich. But that definitely has an impact on where his motivation comes from in my opinion..

“The greatest risk we can take is to try the same old politics with the same old players and expect a different result. You have shown what history teaches us — that at defining moments like this one, the change we need doesn’t come from Washington. Change comes to Washington. Change happens because the American people demand it — because they rise up and insist on new ideas and new leadership, a new politics for a new time.

America, this is one of those moments”

Unfortunately the Obama supporters had to make an abrupt “about face” 12 short hours later

Barack Obama is an idiot just like the rest of the politicians who have made promises like this in the past with nothing ever being accomplished.

NEVER TRUST A LAWYER

…paid sick days and better family leave…

…change our bankruptcy laws, so that your pensions are protected ahead of CEO bonuses…

…my call for a time frame to remove our troops from Iraq…

…surely we can agree that our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters deserve to visit the person they love in the hospital… (OK, it’s true, he has no proposal for how to accomplish this, but you have to admit it is a pretty clear, measurable goal; one that is different from the current state of affairs, as most of the country recognizes no such right; and he mentions it in the context of working out the specifics in a bipartisan fashion.)

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There are 2 or 3 more that are borderline, as they are merely clear references to specific proposals he’s made clear elsewhere.

As for the “hedging” on individual responsibility – the inseperable combination of individual and collective responsibility is the main forward thrust of this speech. You may think that it is drastically wrongheaded, but it is anything but cowardly “hedging”.

So it all comes down to judging a blustery diatribe on how it makes you feel; on its emotional and inspirational qualities. Perhaps as far as acceptance speeches, you are right and this is no difference from the Kennedy and Carter transcripts posted here by mw. However; this seems to be the crux of Obama’s entire campaign – not just his acceptance speech at the DNC.

If you can get through watching Chris Matthews’ or Keith Olberman’s response to the speech without rolling your eyes out of your head or gnashing your teeth until they break, they seem to think that this speech was loaded with specifics and should have silenced all the critics like me (or like us, since you seem to think the speech lacked substance as well).

Acceptance speeches are hardly the place for explicit policy initiatives. The fact that he made four puts him four ahead of McCain at this point, and I am laying odds that after next week he will still be ahead of McCain.

As many have pointed out, Obama has made available many of his initiatives for anyone who cares to seek them out in detail. If you don’t want to make the effort, but are willing to spend hours digging up singular Obama quotes from 12 months ago to buttress your arguments, you are perfectly entitled, but you will be taken no more seriously than you usually are.

But, maybe you will surprise me. I look forward to next week when I can see your equally critical view of McCain’s acceptance speech.

Good luck!

The rest included hackneyed, populist rhetoric such as:

I will rebuild our military to meet future conflicts. But I will also renew the tough, direct diplomacy that can prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons and curb Russian aggression. I will build new partnerships to defeat the threats of the 21st century: terrorism and nuclear proliferation; poverty and genocide; climate change and disease.

Wow. He makes it sound so easy.

But I will also go through the federal budget, line by line, eliminating programs that no longer work and making the ones we do need work better and cost less

Never heard of that idea before, ingenious!

I’ll invest in early childhood education. I’ll recruit an army of new teachers, and pay them higher salaries and give them more support. And in exchange, I’ll ask for higher standards and more accountability.

You know, if only politicians would mention how they will support better education for our children, they would win every election by a landslide. How novel.

Anyone who says that these are “plans”, or specific policy initiatives is living in a world of “happy talk.”

Then there were a bunch of anecdotes about how horrible it is for working class people to live here, a lot of talk about how bad the past 8 years have been and he is really trying to push the premise that McCain is a third term for Bush. The theme of personal responsibility is always hedged by a “but” (read from ‘What is that promise?’ to ‘I am my sister’s keeper).

You notice what wasn’t mentioned in this speech? Or in fact, what was missing from every speech of every Democrat in the entire convention? – the phrase, “Radical Islam.” It is as if the Democrats delibrately avoided mentioning it. Expect Mcain to pounce on that one, amongst other things.

Great show.

Fantastic speech.

Perfect execution.

Pitch perfect delivery.

Unbelievable spectacle.

Exceeded every expectation.

Deadly accurate skewering of failed Bush/Cheney policies.

Beautifully executed painting of a completely false picture of McCains record.

Without question, this was absolutely the most thrilling, the most exciting, the greatest presentation and the the meatiest, most perfectly articulated delivery of the same old tired tax and spend policies anyone has ever seen.

It took my breath away.

If Obama can’t sell it, no one can.

The presidency is his to lose.

For months now, I have been wanting to vote for Obama, but deep down, I know I was just voting against Bush and by extension, McCain.

I hate voting against someone, instead of for someone, which is what I have been doing in every election since Reagan’s second term; this is the first time I actually feel like I want to vote for someone.

I know, I know, I was already 99 percent certain I was going to vote for Obama, but there was always this glimmer of hope the McCain of 2000 would reappear and give me an actual choice.

Now I don’t feell I need a choice; now I feel like I’ve got someone to vote for–I’d call it a Grand Slam.

good luck with that