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	<title>Comments on: Can the Left Make the AIP Story Stick? &#8212; UPDATED</title>
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		<title>By: Bradley</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415883</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin married an AIP member (and involved him in her executive deliberations - per the privilege log), her political mentor is a current AIP member (former gov. per Newsweek), 2 AIP party leaders independently said she was a longtime member (before McCain denied it, and they claimed to have been confused), she attended several of their conventionso over the years, spoke live at one, and sent a video message &quot;keep up the good work&quot; this year.  McCain&#039;s denial just doesn&#039;t pass the smell test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin married an AIP member (and involved him in her executive deliberations &#8211; per the privilege log), her political mentor is a current AIP member (former gov. per Newsweek), 2 AIP party leaders independently said she was a longtime member (before McCain denied it, and they claimed to have been confused), she attended several of their conventionso over the years, spoke live at one, and sent a video message &#8220;keep up the good work&#8221; this year.  McCain&#8217;s denial just doesn&#8217;t pass the smell test.</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415260</link>
		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AIPâ€™s ultimate goal is to break from the USA. To some that translates to treason, and conflicts with McCainâ€™s â€œCountry Firstâ€ argument.  We know her husband was a member, that fact is documented.  And while some argue if she was or wasnâ€™t a member, she did address the AIP (about 6 months ago) and offered them encouragement, which is available for all to see online. Encouraging and praising an organization that some view as treason??  That is like saying you arenâ€™t a card carrying member of the KKK and then letting someone video tape a speech where you say â€œkeep up the good work boys!â€</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AIPâ€™s ultimate goal is to break from the USA. To some that translates to treason, and conflicts with McCainâ€™s â€œCountry Firstâ€ argument.  We know her husband was a member, that fact is documented.  And while some argue if she was or wasnâ€™t a member, she did address the AIP (about 6 months ago) and offered them encouragement, which is available for all to see online. Encouraging and praising an organization that some view as treason??  That is like saying you arenâ€™t a card carrying member of the KKK and then letting someone video tape a speech where you say â€œkeep up the good work boys!â€</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415233</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s not relevant about being married to a secessionist?

The GOP is the party of &quot;Country before party&quot; and a previous Republician president , far from giving them well wishes as &quot;good competition&quot; waged war on secessionist rebels and tried their leaders for treason: that would be Abraham Lincoln.

Who represents the Republician party&#039;s values now? Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s not relevant about being married to a secessionist?</p>
<p>The GOP is the party of &#8220;Country before party&#8221; and a previous Republician president , far from giving them well wishes as &#8220;good competition&#8221; waged war on secessionist rebels and tried their leaders for treason: that would be Abraham Lincoln.</p>
<p>Who represents the Republician party&#8217;s values now? Abraham Lincoln or Jefferson Davis?</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415227</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gaucho,
Why would you parse words like that??

Which consititution??  It spells it out clearly.  The consitiutions of the United States and the State of Alaska.

Do elected officials have the option of selecting to uphold the &quot;1791 constitution&quot; or the &quot;constitution, including all of the amendments&quot;, or can they pick and choose?  Can an elected official who thinks prohibition was a good thing really say, &quot;I&#039;ll uphold and defend the consitution, with all ammendments except for #21&quot;???

Quite being a dork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaucho,<br />
Why would you parse words like that??</p>
<p>Which consititution??  It spells it out clearly.  The consitiutions of the United States and the State of Alaska.</p>
<p>Do elected officials have the option of selecting to uphold the &#8220;1791 constitution&#8221; or the &#8220;constitution, including all of the amendments&#8221;, or can they pick and choose?  Can an elected official who thinks prohibition was a good thing really say, &#8220;I&#8217;ll uphold and defend the consitution, with all ammendments except for #21&#8243;???</p>
<p>Quite being a dork.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; That would be &#8220;no&#8221;.</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415196</link>
		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; That would be &#8220;no&#8221;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#171; Can the Left Make the AIP Story Stick? &#8212; UPDATED [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &laquo; Can the Left Make the AIP Story Stick? &#8212; UPDATED [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gaucho Politico</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415195</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaucho Politico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.&lt;/i&gt;

Actually that could use some clarification. What constitution are they talking about? The constitution of 1791 in its original form? The one we have now? Simply saying i am for the constitution is a total oversimplification of the arguments about how to interpret the constitution. Being for strict adherence to the original constitution is not something i would be so cool with. Slavery should not make a comeback, nor should women lose the vote and i like directly electing my senators. 

states rights lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.</i></p>
<p>Actually that could use some clarification. What constitution are they talking about? The constitution of 1791 in its original form? The one we have now? Simply saying i am for the constitution is a total oversimplification of the arguments about how to interpret the constitution. Being for strict adherence to the original constitution is not something i would be so cool with. Slavery should not make a comeback, nor should women lose the vote and i like directly electing my senators. </p>
<p>states rights lost.</p>
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		<title>By: BBQ</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415188</link>
		<dc:creator>BBQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim how does that prove she was in AIP? 

She calls them her &quot;competition&quot; and talks about shared vision of upholding the Alaska constitution. 

I don&#039;t see anything bad about a candidate who actually welcomes third parties. 

Also this whole secessionist stuff is overblown. This is the top 2 of their platform.

# To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.
# To support and defend States&#039; Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.

They are just the state Constitution Party that has some added history of once being secessionist. The only big thing that is controversial is that they would like a vote that they feel the citizens of Alaska should have had.

1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

But it&#039;s not even on their platform just their website goals.

And Gary, look how little traction the Ayers association has gotten. I suspect the same with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim how does that prove she was in AIP? </p>
<p>She calls them her &#8220;competition&#8221; and talks about shared vision of upholding the Alaska constitution. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything bad about a candidate who actually welcomes third parties. </p>
<p>Also this whole secessionist stuff is overblown. This is the top 2 of their platform.</p>
<p># To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.<br />
# To support and defend States&#8217; Rights, Individual Rights, Property Rights, and the Equal Footing Doctrine as guaranteed by the constitutions of the United States of America and the state of Alaska.</p>
<p>They are just the state Constitution Party that has some added history of once being secessionist. The only big thing that is controversial is that they would like a vote that they feel the citizens of Alaska should have had.</p>
<p>1) Remain a Territory.<br />
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.<br />
3) Accept Commonwealth status.<br />
4) Become a State.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not even on their platform just their website goals.</p>
<p>And Gary, look how little traction the Ayers association has gotten. I suspect the same with this.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somehow I just don&#039;t think that anyone who writes this

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Michael, I donâ€™t see what this has to do with the G)P pointing out that John Kerry is a record-plumping douche.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

can really say anything about what reasonable people think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow I just don&#8217;t think that anyone who writes this</p>
<blockquote><p>
Michael, I donâ€™t see what this has to do with the G)P pointing out that John Kerry is a record-plumping douche.
</p></blockquote>
<p>can really say anything about what reasonable people think.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a &lt;a href=&quot;//streaming.dcc.uaf.edu/jukebox/YUCH/9118-18.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;recording of the founder of the AIP&lt;/a&gt;, someone still revered by the party.

And here is an article by ABC&#039;s &lt;a&gt;Jake Tapper&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a <a href="//streaming.dcc.uaf.edu/jukebox/YUCH/9118-18.mp3" rel="nofollow">recording of the founder of the AIP</a>, someone still revered by the party.</p>
<p>And here is an article by ABC&#8217;s <a>Jake Tapper</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415183</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.akip.org/conv08.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s her video for the AIP&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.akip.org/conv08.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s her video for the AIP</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/09/02/can-the-left-make-the-aip-story-stick/comment-page-1/#comment-415181</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Palin registered as a republican once she decided to run for city council, but numerous AIP folks say she and her husband were active in the AIP before that, and he remained in the AIP after she ran as a republican. Witnesses put them at at least one AIP convention. AIP is founded on hatred for the US, and suggests that its members be active in the two major parties as well and infiltrate them to push the AIP agenda. If Obama&#039;s serving on a board with a former terrorist is enough for the terrorists to brand him as a terrorists, this is enough to convict Palin of being a traitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Palin registered as a republican once she decided to run for city council, but numerous AIP folks say she and her husband were active in the AIP before that, and he remained in the AIP after she ran as a republican. Witnesses put them at at least one AIP convention. AIP is founded on hatred for the US, and suggests that its members be active in the two major parties as well and infiltrate them to push the AIP agenda. If Obama&#8217;s serving on a board with a former terrorist is enough for the terrorists to brand him as a terrorists, this is enough to convict Palin of being a traitor.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of stuff is extremely tedious for the non-partisans. It&#039;s one thing if there&#039;s really something to it. But when it&#039;s  no more than the sum of

 &quot;let&#039;s interpret this in the worst way possible&quot; 

and 

6 degrees of Kevin Bacon

then it&#039;s just a waste of time for reasonable folks. We&#039;ve got no real evidence Palin is or was sympatico with secessionist goals. Suppose she gave a speech and tried to draw into the mainstream process a misguided group that nevertheless has some decent insights. That sounds like a very reasonable thing to do.

Michael, I don&#039;t see what this has to do with the G)P pointing out that John Kerry is a record-plumping douche. I&#039;m all for tit-for-tat, but in this case there does not, at this point, seem to be anything to this. What&#039;s the point in hurling rash charges with little or no basis when the baselessness is bound to come clearly to light?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of stuff is extremely tedious for the non-partisans. It&#8217;s one thing if there&#8217;s really something to it. But when it&#8217;s  no more than the sum of</p>
<p> &#8220;let&#8217;s interpret this in the worst way possible&#8221; </p>
<p>and </p>
<p>6 degrees of Kevin Bacon</p>
<p>then it&#8217;s just a waste of time for reasonable folks. We&#8217;ve got no real evidence Palin is or was sympatico with secessionist goals. Suppose she gave a speech and tried to draw into the mainstream process a misguided group that nevertheless has some decent insights. That sounds like a very reasonable thing to do.</p>
<p>Michael, I don&#8217;t see what this has to do with the G)P pointing out that John Kerry is a record-plumping douche. I&#8217;m all for tit-for-tat, but in this case there does not, at this point, seem to be anything to this. What&#8217;s the point in hurling rash charges with little or no basis when the baselessness is bound to come clearly to light?</p>
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		<title>By: michael reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this election season, I disagree, Alan.  Yes, we want to throw down with Republicans any time we get the chance.  We are collectively sick of them and their games.  These are the people who attack war heroes as unpatriotic.  I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll win these fights this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this election season, I disagree, Alan.  Yes, we want to throw down with Republicans any time we get the chance.  We are collectively sick of them and their games.  These are the people who attack war heroes as unpatriotic.  I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll win these fights this year.</p>
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		<title>By: PoliticalPartyPooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoliticalPartyPooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter if they can make it stick.  With the left, it never has.  They&#039;re throwing darts in a courtroom of public opinion.  To them, the mere mention of a scandal is the same as it being true.

Won&#039;t they ever learn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter if they can make it stick.  With the left, it never has.  They&#8217;re throwing darts in a courtroom of public opinion.  To them, the mere mention of a scandal is the same as it being true.</p>
<p>Won&#8217;t they ever learn?</p>
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