After asking the librarian what would be her response to her (Palin) asking her to remove some books from the library. The librarian responded that she would not allow that. A few weeks later Palin fired the librarian.

Is that more like you were trying to say?

The media went bananas over Michelle Obama’s “For the first time in my life I am proud of this country” but the only coverage of Todd Palin seems to be about his champion snowmobiling.

The ID/teach the debate ploy is found at least at the Discovery Institute.

Don’t mix facts. Any interview with the librarian says that Palin fired her over banning books and other issues. It is the LIST that is going around that is fake.

Good comments on the AIP. She may have never been involved, but Todd has 7 total registered years under his belt.

On the creationism issue, this is difficult. By taking the middle ground stance, she is indeed saying creationism should be taught, but she’s trying to cloud the issue by inferring that it is the underdog belief. Palin is a staunch creationist, and if we teach creationism in our schools, wouldn’t we have to teach any theory on the topic even if it’s not based on science?

Good fact check! I still think you could do more though :)

That said, I am not convinced that your “hard facts” are quite as hard as you indicate here. Some of them look rather flaccid to me, if not completely limp. Be that as it may, I understand that after a week of the most intense media witch hunt vetting in the history of the known universe, you need to go with what you got. Hey, some facts are just not as well endowed as others. But you should not feel insecure about this, adding factual extensions or using other factual enhancement therapy is not the answer.

I’ve checked out the other sources listed above by Justin, and it doesn’t say anything about this. Would you point me to a place where she explicitly said this?

Not picking a fight here; I’m genuinely curious.

Justin, if someone is “extremely cozy” what does that mean. If for example you are extremely cozy with members of your family, and they are pro-life, what does that make you? Well, if you are pro-choice, would it make you any less pro-choice?

I could really, REALLY do without the ongoing sidelong suggestions that jeez, Palin is chummy with these folks and that must mean something bad. Likew maybe she wants to disband the government or whatever.

Seriously. She has been in the PTA, been Mayor of Wasilla, is Governor of AK, and is now running for VP. Why isn’t that ample enough evidence that she is eager to try and make government work for the people.

What’s next? Assertions that she should resign as governor for her VP pursuit, while making a special case that it’s oh I dunno, OK for Obama to stay in the senate?

That’s NOT “pushing” to have it taught. BTW, creationism and intelligent design ARE taught in schools across the country–in comparitive religion classes, where they belong. That’s also a far cry from mandating the teaching of it in SCIENCE classrooms as science, which is and should be Right Out. Indeed, Palin explicitly stated that while it was a legitimate matter for debate it did NOT belong in the science curriculum. Re-debunked.

I would also note that the theological concept of a Prime Mover is not in the least antithetical to evolutionary theory. It’s the trappings of Biblical Creationism (and it’s stealth cousin, Intelligent Design) that fail all tests of science. But the theological concept of a Prime Mover, being unprovable speculations on the supernatural, is itself above and beyond science, and thus should not be part of any science curriculum.

That one is re-bunked.