Comments on: It’s Obama’s Fault McCain Has Gone Negative http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:39:23 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jim S http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416284 Jim S Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:44:06 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416284 Interesting how everyone seems to be forgetting that Obama's campaign counter-offered a smaller number of town hall type meetings but the McCain campaign rejected them out of hand and that was the end of that. Interesting how everyone seems to be forgetting that Obama’s campaign counter-offered a smaller number of town hall type meetings but the McCain campaign rejected them out of hand and that was the end of that.

]]> By: BenG http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416281 BenG Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:12:46 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416281 Alan, Maybe he should've, maybe he shouldn't, and in hind sight we probably would've gotten to know more of the candidates if they were doing town hall meetings rather than this speech - ad nonsense. It leaves too much of the campaign to the whims of the media and that ain't good! Strategically it made sense for Obama not to let McCain call the shots, and nobody was saying at the time that he should've let McCain do the debates in an environment where he's obviously more comfortable. So maybe this was the big blunder of the campaign, the upcoming debates will give the answer to that. To the point of post, though, I agree with your view that it doesn't allow the McCain campaign to have taken the low road. Their message? Do the debates as we suggest or we'll drag you down into the mud where we'll kick your ass! What does that say of their possible upcoming administration? More of the same from the past 8 years. It's exactly how we got to where we're at now. Alan,

Maybe he should’ve, maybe he shouldn’t, and in hind sight we probably would’ve gotten to know more of the candidates if they were doing town hall meetings rather than this speech – ad nonsense. It leaves too much of the campaign to the whims of the media and that ain’t good!

Strategically it made sense for Obama not to let McCain call the shots, and nobody was saying at the time that he should’ve let McCain do the debates in an environment where he’s obviously more comfortable. So maybe this was the big blunder of the campaign, the upcoming debates will give the answer to that.

To the point of post, though, I agree with your view that it doesn’t allow the McCain campaign to have taken the low road. Their message? Do the debates as we suggest or we’ll drag you down into the mud where we’ll kick your ass! What does that say of their possible upcoming administration? More of the same from the past 8 years. It’s exactly how we got to where we’re at now.

]]> By: Alan Stewart Carl http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416270 Alan Stewart Carl Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:17:52 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416270 Obama should have agreed to the town hall meetings. By refusing, Obama looks like he cares more about managing his image than he does about debating the issues. But McCain has been more negative and has broadcast more outright deceptions than Obama. I don't think Obama's refusal to engage in town hall meetings excuses McCain's campaign for their excesses. Obama should have agreed to the town hall meetings. By refusing, Obama looks like he cares more about managing his image than he does about debating the issues.

But McCain has been more negative and has broadcast more outright deceptions than Obama. I don’t think Obama’s refusal to engage in town hall meetings excuses McCain’s campaign for their excesses.

]]> By: Jim S http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416265 Jim S Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:23:39 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416265 That was rather hopelessly biased and ignorant, there, M4NH. First, as Avinash pointed out already it was in fact the McCain campaign that went negative first. Secondly the Obama responses have been extremely mild compared to what the McCain folks have been shoveling. And the Zogby online poll is such an unscientific methodology no one in the field, be they other pollsters or the politicians who pay attention to the polls take it seriously as an indicator. That was rather hopelessly biased and ignorant, there, M4NH. First, as Avinash pointed out already it was in fact the McCain campaign that went negative first. Secondly the Obama responses have been extremely mild compared to what the McCain folks have been shoveling. And the Zogby online poll is such an unscientific methodology no one in the field, be they other pollsters or the politicians who pay attention to the polls take it seriously as an indicator.

]]> By: Gaucho Politico http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416262 Gaucho Politico Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:13:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416262 Zogby? Really? Online Zogby polls are about as reliable as roulette. Zogby? Really? Online Zogby polls are about as reliable as roulette.

]]> By: Avinash_Tyagi http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416261 Avinash_Tyagi Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:09:15 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416261 Mother of 4, its already been shown that McCain went negative first, and that Obama has shown great restraint even when faced with the outright lies of the McCain camp. Actually I welcome Obama's harsher tone in recent days, before he seemed unwilling to fight back. Also the poll you cite is a Zogby interactive online poll, online polls are the worst polls in existence, they have the worst accuracy of all the polls Mother of 4, its already been shown that McCain went negative first, and that Obama has shown great restraint even when faced with the outright lies of the McCain camp.

Actually I welcome Obama’s harsher tone in recent days, before he seemed unwilling to fight back.

Also the poll you cite is a Zogby interactive online poll, online polls are the worst polls in existence, they have the worst accuracy of all the polls

]]> By: Mother of 4 in New Hampshire http://donklephant.com/2008/09/13/its-obamas-fault-mccain-has-gone-negative/comment-page-1/#comment-416259 Mother of 4 in New Hampshire Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:38:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=7869#comment-416259 It is OBAMA that has to resort to negative attacks. He did it against Hillary, now he is doing it to McCain. Obama just doesn't get it. Every time he attacks, he loses credibility with moderates adn Independents, the coalition that will decide the election in the swing states. Obama is losing altitude and will crash and burn with his negative personal attacks of John McCain and Sarah Palin. Obama's strategy is a definite sign of DESPERATION! You want to know why Obama is spending a lot of time in NH? Just released: ZOGBY: New Hamshire - McCain 49.1, Obama 42.8 State: New Hampshire Updated: 9/13/2008 Summary: McCain - 49.1% Obama - 42.8% Not Sure/Other - 8.1% “Still very close here. In a state that loves John McCain, and handed Obama a bruising defeat, McCain has a higher favorability rating.” Electoral Votes: 4, Too close to call Full crosstab data from New Hampshire is available to subscribers to the 2008 Presidential polling package. Methodology: Zogby International conducted an online survey of 433 likely voters. The poll ran from Sept. 9-12. It carries a margin of error of +/- 4.8 percentage points. It is OBAMA that has to resort to negative attacks. He did it against Hillary, now he is doing it to McCain. Obama just doesn’t get it. Every time he attacks, he loses credibility with moderates adn Independents, the coalition that will decide the election in the swing states.

Obama is losing altitude and will crash and burn with his negative personal attacks of John McCain and Sarah Palin.

Obama’s strategy is a definite sign of DESPERATION!

You want to know why Obama is spending a lot of time in NH?

Just released:

ZOGBY: New Hamshire – McCain 49.1, Obama 42.8

State: New Hampshire

Updated: 9/13/2008

Summary: McCain – 49.1% Obama – 42.8% Not Sure/Other – 8.1%

“Still very close here. In a state that loves John McCain, and handed Obama a bruising defeat, McCain has a higher favorability rating.”

Electoral Votes: 4, Too close to call

Full crosstab data from New Hampshire is available to subscribers to the 2008 Presidential polling package.

Methodology: Zogby International conducted an online survey of 433 likely voters. The poll ran from Sept. 9-12. It carries a margin of error of +/- 4.8 percentage points.

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