Comments on: Bailout Passes Senate with Monster Tax Breaks Attached http://donklephant.com/2008/10/01/bailout-passes-senate-with-monster-tax-breaks-attached/ Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable. Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:09:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: George Smithers http://donklephant.com/2008/10/01/bailout-passes-senate-with-monster-tax-breaks-attached/comment-page-1/#comment-418140 George Smithers Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:57:18 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=8587#comment-418140 This bailout is a B.O.M.B. (Bush-Obama-McCain-Bailout) from hell. Only Bob Barr is talking sense about the bailout. How come the media isn't pushing for Barr to be in the debates? America deserves to be able to vote for someone opposed to a bailout plan, but McCain, Obama and the media don't want us to have a choice. Vote Barr to oppose the bailout. Contact the media to demand that Barr be included in the debates. Call your congressman to demand that he votes no on this new version of the bailout bill when it goes to the House. This bailout is a B.O.M.B. (Bush-Obama-McCain-Bailout) from hell.

Only Bob Barr is talking sense about the bailout.

How come the media isn’t pushing for Barr to be in the debates? America deserves to be able to vote for someone opposed to a bailout plan, but McCain, Obama and the media don’t want us to have a choice.

Vote Barr to oppose the bailout.

Contact the media to demand that Barr be included in the debates.

Call your congressman to demand that he votes no on this new version of the bailout bill when it goes to the House.

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My understanding is that they are all new to the Senate version.

Here’s an interesting article on spending bills and the disagreement that exists between the Senate and the House on exactly what the Constitution allows.

From my understanding, the Senate occasionally tacks on tax breaks to bills (it happened with the minimun wage bill, I believe), much to the irritation of the House. It seems, in this case, the Senate decided to take the lead in juicing the bailout bill. I imagine, if House leaders whated to get uppity, they could make the argument that the Senate overstepped its bounds. But it seems they didn’t do anything that they haven’t done before.

]]> By: Brian http://donklephant.com/2008/10/01/bailout-passes-senate-with-monster-tax-breaks-attached/comment-page-1/#comment-418129 Brian Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:52:41 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=8587#comment-418129 Alan, are the tax breaks you mentioned new additions to the bill, or remnants of the House bill they had to amend to get around the fact that all spending bills have to originate in the House? Alan, are the tax breaks you mentioned new additions to the bill, or remnants of the House bill they had to amend to get around the fact that all spending bills have to originate in the House?

]]> By: PatHMV http://donklephant.com/2008/10/01/bailout-passes-senate-with-monster-tax-breaks-attached/comment-page-1/#comment-418094 PatHMV Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:39:51 +0000 http://donklephant.com/?p=8587#comment-418094 If the sweeteners do buy off enough Republican votes, I'm going to be one pissed off Republican. This is a crappy bill, loaded with unnecessary give aways, containing items entirely unrelated to the crisis. They're playing politics as usual with something they claim is essential to forestalling a depression. I don't buy it, and this is a bad bill which SHOULD fail. As I explained <a href="http://stubbornfacts.us/corruption/the_foreseen_crisis" rel="nofollow">here at Stubborn Facts</a> and in the other posts linked in that post, we had PLENTY of warning about this coming crisis, we could have taken action sooner, but the same people (both Republicans AND Democrats) now saying "trust us, trust us" refused to listen, refused to take action on the warnings. They had bad judgment then, and I see no reason to trust their judgment now. If the sweeteners do buy off enough Republican votes, I’m going to be one pissed off Republican. This is a crappy bill, loaded with unnecessary give aways, containing items entirely unrelated to the crisis. They’re playing politics as usual with something they claim is essential to forestalling a depression. I don’t buy it, and this is a bad bill which SHOULD fail.

As I explained here at Stubborn Facts and in the other posts linked in that post, we had PLENTY of warning about this coming crisis, we could have taken action sooner, but the same people (both Republicans AND Democrats) now saying “trust us, trust us” refused to listen, refused to take action on the warnings. They had bad judgment then, and I see no reason to trust their judgment now.

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