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	<title>Comments on: House Passes Economic Rescue Bill 263-171</title>
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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/03/house-passes-economic-rescue-bill-263-171/comment-page-1/#comment-419292</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the same time, lawmakers have dramatically changed the measure, insisting on greater congressional supervision over the $700 billion, taking measures to protect taxpayers, and insisting on steps to crack down on so-called â€œgolden parachutesâ€ that go to corporate executives whose companies fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the same time, lawmakers have dramatically changed the measure, insisting on greater congressional supervision over the $700 billion, taking measures to protect taxpayers, and insisting on steps to crack down on so-called â€œgolden parachutesâ€ that go to corporate executives whose companies fail.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
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		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 20:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, surely you don&#039;t think that after this bill is signed, they&#039;re going to send a note down to the treasury dep&#039;t to order the mints to print up 35 million new $20 bills and then ship pallets of cash to failing banks?

Currently,  foreign governments are forecasting our financial collapse with glee despite the even sketchier state of their own markets. Meanwhile,  foreign &lt;i&gt;investors&lt;/i&gt; desperate for safe havens for capital are pouring their money into US treasury securities. In essence, we&#039;re being lent this money by such actions. That&#039;s how the government spends money it doesn&#039;t have, by issuing bonds. Government bonds are promises to pay slightly more than a dollar some day in return for a dollar today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, surely you don&#8217;t think that after this bill is signed, they&#8217;re going to send a note down to the treasury dep&#8217;t to order the mints to print up 35 million new $20 bills and then ship pallets of cash to failing banks?</p>
<p>Currently,  foreign governments are forecasting our financial collapse with glee despite the even sketchier state of their own markets. Meanwhile,  foreign <i>investors</i> desperate for safe havens for capital are pouring their money into US treasury securities. In essence, we&#8217;re being lent this money by such actions. That&#8217;s how the government spends money it doesn&#8217;t have, by issuing bonds. Government bonds are promises to pay slightly more than a dollar some day in return for a dollar today.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/03/house-passes-economic-rescue-bill-263-171/comment-page-1/#comment-418536</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve got two questions. Is it true that this is all going to come from newly printed money, and if so won&#039;t that devalue the dollar to a pretty serious extent?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve got two questions. Is it true that this is all going to come from newly printed money, and if so won&#8217;t that devalue the dollar to a pretty serious extent?</p>
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		<title>By: ExiledIndependent</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/03/house-passes-economic-rescue-bill-263-171/comment-page-1/#comment-418533</link>
		<dc:creator>ExiledIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a dark day for our country and the future will prove that it is a dark day for our economy as well.  Perfect portrait of the failure of our government and the people we elected.  There were other options, but instead of behaving like leaders our Senators and Representatives went for the quick, short term decision that, incidentally, had billions of additional dollars of pork in it.  Nothing but legislated bribery.  I&#039;m just simply disgusted right now.  

We live in an era of panem et circeses, interrupted periodically with a liberal dose of government-inspired fear and paranoia.  A hundred years from now, historians will point to this era as the beginning of the end for our country as we know it.

I can only hope that this serves as a clarion call for the masses to wake up and start paying attention to their government, to participate more, to require accountability, to put the source of governmental power back in the hands of the citizenry.  Otherwise we are sheep to the slaughter, happily cashing our &quot;stimulus checks&quot; while our republic mutates into a socialist oligarchy.

Shame on us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a dark day for our country and the future will prove that it is a dark day for our economy as well.  Perfect portrait of the failure of our government and the people we elected.  There were other options, but instead of behaving like leaders our Senators and Representatives went for the quick, short term decision that, incidentally, had billions of additional dollars of pork in it.  Nothing but legislated bribery.  I&#8217;m just simply disgusted right now.  </p>
<p>We live in an era of panem et circeses, interrupted periodically with a liberal dose of government-inspired fear and paranoia.  A hundred years from now, historians will point to this era as the beginning of the end for our country as we know it.</p>
<p>I can only hope that this serves as a clarion call for the masses to wake up and start paying attention to their government, to participate more, to require accountability, to put the source of governmental power back in the hands of the citizenry.  Otherwise we are sheep to the slaughter, happily cashing our &#8220;stimulus checks&#8221; while our republic mutates into a socialist oligarchy.</p>
<p>Shame on us.</p>
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		<title>By: kranky kritter</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/03/house-passes-economic-rescue-bill-263-171/comment-page-1/#comment-418532</link>
		<dc:creator>kranky kritter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 19:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...and there was absolutely nothing that could reverse that except this bill.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We know this HOW exactly? It &lt;i&gt;may&lt;/i&gt; be true, but let&#039;s call this notion what it really is. It&#039;s the driving presumption behind passage of the bill. It&#039;s not an established fact, it&#039;s a presumption.

One could argue that American indecision on this HUGE financial decision was what was causing credit markets to freeze.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;and there was absolutely nothing that could reverse that except this bill.</p></blockquote>
<p>We know this HOW exactly? It <i>may</i> be true, but let&#8217;s call this notion what it really is. It&#8217;s the driving presumption behind passage of the bill. It&#8217;s not an established fact, it&#8217;s a presumption.</p>
<p>One could argue that American indecision on this HUGE financial decision was what was causing credit markets to freeze.</p>
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