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	<description>Big Teeth. Huge Ass. Surprisingly Reasonable.</description>
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		<title>By: Divided We Stand United We Fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Divided We Stand United We Fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Live Blogging the Live Bloggers - It&#039;s All Over...&lt;/strong&gt;

Net net. It does not matter what happened in this debate. It does not matter what substance (or the lack thereof) was to be found in the questions and answers. Obama was cool. Obama was silky smooth. McCain made funny faces. Ergo, Obama won. That is it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Live Blogging the Live Bloggers &#8211; It&#8217;s All Over&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Net net. It does not matter what happened in this debate. It does not matter what substance (or the lack thereof) was to be found in the questions and answers. Obama was cool. Obama was silky smooth. McCain made funny faces. Ergo, Obama won. That is it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far, all the conclusions by all the pundits are
totally based upon POLLS. Not a single actual vote
has been cast yet. Obama supporters gush at how
well their man has done in the debates, which proves
once again that Obama is a good debater and a good
speaker. It doesn&#039;t say anything about his character, 
judgement, or what kind of a leader he would be. 
I still would rather trust a man who would not sell out
his fellow prisoners, even during 5 years of torture, 
than to trust a man who betrayed a 20 year friendship,
for personal ambition. And ... regarding this election,
until people actually vote ... it ain&#039;t over till it&#039;s over!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far, all the conclusions by all the pundits are<br />
totally based upon POLLS. Not a single actual vote<br />
has been cast yet. Obama supporters gush at how<br />
well their man has done in the debates, which proves<br />
once again that Obama is a good debater and a good<br />
speaker. It doesn&#8217;t say anything about his character,<br />
judgement, or what kind of a leader he would be.<br />
I still would rather trust a man who would not sell out<br />
his fellow prisoners, even during 5 years of torture,<br />
than to trust a man who betrayed a 20 year friendship,<br />
for personal ambition. And &#8230; regarding this election,<br />
until people actually vote &#8230; it ain&#8217;t over till it&#8217;s over!</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN Post Debate Snap Poll: Obama 58%, McCain 31%</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CNN Post Debate Snap Poll: Obama 58%, McCain 31%</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As one commenter in our debate open stream said&#8230; It was a brutal combo combined w/ a fatality. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, feeling a bit foolish here... Somewhere along the line the channel got changed from MSNBC... to NBC.

That Anne Curry thing happened on NBC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, feeling a bit foolish here&#8230; Somewhere along the line the channel got changed from MSNBC&#8230; to NBC.</p>
<p>That Anne Curry thing happened on NBC.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks everybody for joining us tonight. Most comments evah!!!

Check out our posts on the main site. We already have 5 new pieces of content up.

Read, comment and share with your friends!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everybody for joining us tonight. Most comments evah!!!</p>
<p>Check out our posts on the main site. We already have 5 new pieces of content up.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I go a private school and I believe it is the only way to get a quality education. &quot;

Bob Adams, that is probably the most ignorant thing i&#039;ve heard all week.

If you ever manage to graduate from your prestigious private school and manage to have colleagues of all backgrounds in the real world, your view will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I go a private school and I believe it is the only way to get a quality education. &#8221;</p>
<p>Bob Adams, that is probably the most ignorant thing i&#8217;ve heard all week.</p>
<p>If you ever manage to graduate from your prestigious private school and manage to have colleagues of all backgrounds in the real world, your view will change.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;â€œHow many of you can see yourself not voting for Senator Obama, because of his race?â€

Three hands went upâ€¦ including one of the women, who looked to be either Asian or Hispanic!

Iâ€™ve got is saved to hard drive, Iâ€™ll try to pull it a bit later, maybeâ€¦&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Whoa. What morons.

Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>â€œHow many of you can see yourself not voting for Senator Obama, because of his race?â€</p>
<p>Three hands went upâ€¦ including one of the women, who looked to be either Asian or Hispanic!</p>
<p>Iâ€™ve got is saved to hard drive, Iâ€™ll try to pull it a bit later, maybeâ€¦</p></blockquote>
<p>Whoa. What morons.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne Curry was interviewing a group of six folks... three men, three women, I think.

One of the questions was something like:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;How many of you can see yourself not voting for Senator Obama, because of his race?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Three hands went up... including one of the women, who looked to be either Asian or Hispanic!

I&#039;ve got is saved to hard drive, I&#039;ll try to pull it a bit later, maybe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne Curry was interviewing a group of six folks&#8230; three men, three women, I think.</p>
<p>One of the questions was something like:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;How many of you can see yourself not voting for Senator Obama, because of his race?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Three hands went up&#8230; including one of the women, who looked to be either Asian or Hispanic!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got is saved to hard drive, I&#8217;ll try to pull it a bit later, maybe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, I&#039;m watching PBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, I&#8217;m watching PBS.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again... Mitt Romney is yakkin&#039; on MSNBC... smooth, polished, smiling.

Again... McCain is kicking himself for not picking Romney for Veep...

Anyone else see Romney giving it another shot in &#039;12?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again&#8230; Mitt Romney is yakkin&#8217; on MSNBC&#8230; smooth, polished, smiling.</p>
<p>Again&#8230; McCain is kicking himself for not picking Romney for Veep&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyone else see Romney giving it another shot in &#8217;12?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same thing happened to me, Agnostick.

Does anyone think that McCain did himself a favor with any voters with the totally surreal claim that he&#039;ll balance the budget by 2013?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same thing happened to me, Agnostick.</p>
<p>Does anyone think that McCain did himself a favor with any voters with the totally surreal claim that he&#8217;ll balance the budget by 2013?</p>
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		<title>By: pico</title>
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		<dc:creator>pico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was McCain&#039;s best debate so far, largely because he did indeed look more energetic and was able to mask his contempt slightly more than in previous debates--meaning while he showed contempt, he at least looked at Obama and didn&#039;t have a gaffe like his &quot;that one&quot; comment. Still, Obama seemed to have far more particulars in his plans and a superior grasp of most of the issues, so I&#039;d give him the debate. His handling of the Ayers issue was fantastic I thought, and addressing it head on (as Obama&#039;s addressed all these rumors) should only help him. Honestly, the whole thing made McCain look silly and desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was McCain&#8217;s best debate so far, largely because he did indeed look more energetic and was able to mask his contempt slightly more than in previous debates&#8211;meaning while he showed contempt, he at least looked at Obama and didn&#8217;t have a gaffe like his &#8220;that one&#8221; comment. Still, Obama seemed to have far more particulars in his plans and a superior grasp of most of the issues, so I&#8217;d give him the debate. His handling of the Ayers issue was fantastic I thought, and addressing it head on (as Obama&#8217;s addressed all these rumors) should only help him. Honestly, the whole thing made McCain look silly and desperate.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry... thanks for the clarification on voting &quot;present&quot;...

Is anyone else watching MSNBC?  Did anyone else see the little focus group with Anne Curry just now???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry&#8230; thanks for the clarification on voting &#8220;present&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Is anyone else watching MSNBC?  Did anyone else see the little focus group with Anne Curry just now???</p>
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		<title>By: NYkrinDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYkrinDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;McCain did a lot better tonight than most folks expectedâ€¦ and it might give the ticket a small bump in the polls for the rest of this weekâ€¦ but it wasnâ€™t enough to overtake Obama.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought McCain came out strong, but lost it near the end. As I pointed out, even Fox&#039;s focus group gave Obama the victory. McCain needed a clear victory and he didn&#039;t come through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>McCain did a lot better tonight than most folks expectedâ€¦ and it might give the ticket a small bump in the polls for the rest of this weekâ€¦ but it wasnâ€™t enough to overtake Obama.</i></p>
<p>I thought McCain came out strong, but lost it near the end. As I pointed out, even Fox&#8217;s focus group gave Obama the victory. McCain needed a clear victory and he didn&#8217;t come through.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN is calling it for McCain, but I don&#039;t see it.   Sure he did better then he has, especially in the last debate. but Obama out spoke him and out thought him.  He also had to bring up McCain&#039;s own plan.

McCain also never answered how  Sarah Palin would be good for the country if she were to become president (I&#039;m debating with my girlfriend on the wording of that question, can anyone else clarify?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN is calling it for McCain, but I don&#8217;t see it.   Sure he did better then he has, especially in the last debate. but Obama out spoke him and out thought him.  He also had to bring up McCain&#8217;s own plan.</p>
<p>McCain also never answered how  Sarah Palin would be good for the country if she were to become president (I&#8217;m debating with my girlfriend on the wording of that question, can anyone else clarify?)</p>
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		<title>By: Agnostick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnostick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got an error message over here... didn&#039;t get Donk.com back until a few minutes ago.

And... I missed about half the debate, to boot!  :p

Still... I think copy writers, in assessing tonight&#039;s debate... will essentially pull out their stories from the VP debate a couple of weeks back... substitute &quot;Obama&quot; for &quot;Biden&quot;... and substitute &quot;McCain&quot; for &quot;Palin.&quot;

McCain did a lot better tonight than most folks expected... and it might give the ticket a small bump in the polls for the rest of this week... but it wasn&#039;t enough to overtake Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got an error message over here&#8230; didn&#8217;t get Donk.com back until a few minutes ago.</p>
<p>And&#8230; I missed about half the debate, to boot!  :p</p>
<p>Still&#8230; I think copy writers, in assessing tonight&#8217;s debate&#8230; will essentially pull out their stories from the VP debate a couple of weeks back&#8230; substitute &#8220;Obama&#8221; for &#8220;Biden&#8221;&#8230; and substitute &#8220;McCain&#8221; for &#8220;Palin.&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain did a lot better tonight than most folks expected&#8230; and it might give the ticket a small bump in the polls for the rest of this week&#8230; but it wasn&#8217;t enough to overtake Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McCain will gain a few points since he has effectively adopted the underdog status.  Obama was cautious (more than usual).  But it&#039;s not enough.  Obama is the new Teflon Don.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McCain will gain a few points since he has effectively adopted the underdog status.  Obama was cautious (more than usual).  But it&#8217;s not enough.  Obama is the new Teflon Don.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Sickinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Sickinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly McCain did better.
But weren&#039;t we all expecting McCain to leave it all on the line?

But I call it a tie, lean Obama...
However, people watching the first 20 minutes will say McCain won.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly McCain did better.<br />
But weren&#8217;t we all expecting McCain to leave it all on the line?</p>
<p>But I call it a tie, lean Obama&#8230;<br />
However, people watching the first 20 minutes will say McCain won.</p>
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		<title>By: shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At best for McCain a draw. I think he did as well as he could in terms of discussion of his policies, but whenever he mentioned Obama or Obama&#039;s policies, he seemed so childish. And he&#039;s definitely painted himself into a corner on the whole abortion issue and it&#039;s nice to see him actually called on it in public. Independent voters don&#039;t want Roe vs. Wade changed, but the only part of the republican base that McCain has left is the social conservatives and Roe vs. Wade is huge to them. I&#039;m still amazed that he called Obama &quot;Pro-abortion.&quot;

I think the moderator did an excellent job. Good questions, and a good balance of allowing discussion while still keeping things moving. And both candidates did a somewhat better job of actually answering the questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At best for McCain a draw. I think he did as well as he could in terms of discussion of his policies, but whenever he mentioned Obama or Obama&#8217;s policies, he seemed so childish. And he&#8217;s definitely painted himself into a corner on the whole abortion issue and it&#8217;s nice to see him actually called on it in public. Independent voters don&#8217;t want Roe vs. Wade changed, but the only part of the republican base that McCain has left is the social conservatives and Roe vs. Wade is huge to them. I&#8217;m still amazed that he called Obama &#8220;Pro-abortion.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think the moderator did an excellent job. Good questions, and a good balance of allowing discussion while still keeping things moving. And both candidates did a somewhat better job of actually answering the questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:41:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether McCain has privately admitted defeat, or whether he&#039;s belatedly realized that he physically isn&#039;t up to the demands of the presidency anymore, or whether, deep down in his heart of hearts he just doesn&#039;t want the job. Whatever it is, McCain no longer looks like he&#039;s running for president. He looks like he&#039;s going through the motions of running for president. It showed in the last debate, and it showed again tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether McCain has privately admitted defeat, or whether he&#8217;s belatedly realized that he physically isn&#8217;t up to the demands of the presidency anymore, or whether, deep down in his heart of hearts he just doesn&#8217;t want the job. Whatever it is, McCain no longer looks like he&#8217;s running for president. He looks like he&#8217;s going through the motions of running for president. It showed in the last debate, and it showed again tonight.</p>
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