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	<title>Comments on: Worrying About a Democratic Supermajority</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-2/#comment-420381</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 00:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep in mind how fractious and divided the Democrats are, and have been for some time. If simply having a Congressional majority were enough, for one example, the Dems could have forced an end to U.S. involvement in Iraq long ago, just by cutting off funding. But in reality the party establishment has not always been able to keep the &quot;Blue Dogs&quot; and other factions in line, enabling the GOP minority to &quot;rule from below&quot; to a certain degree. (Hmm... considering that, maybe it&#039;s not such a mystery anymore why they&#039;ve taken the blame for the sins of Congress.)

That internal division won&#039;t change just because the Dems have grown their ranks in Congress and put one of their own in the White House. That may make it quite a bit harder for the minority party to exert their will, but still far from impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep in mind how fractious and divided the Democrats are, and have been for some time. If simply having a Congressional majority were enough, for one example, the Dems could have forced an end to U.S. involvement in Iraq long ago, just by cutting off funding. But in reality the party establishment has not always been able to keep the &#8220;Blue Dogs&#8221; and other factions in line, enabling the GOP minority to &#8220;rule from below&#8221; to a certain degree. (Hmm&#8230; considering that, maybe it&#8217;s not such a mystery anymore why they&#8217;ve taken the blame for the sins of Congress.)</p>
<p>That internal division won&#8217;t change just because the Dems have grown their ranks in Congress and put one of their own in the White House. That may make it quite a bit harder for the minority party to exert their will, but still far from impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: Regis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 23:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Divided Government = Government of the Least Common Denominator = Disaster in an Era Requiring Major Changes</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-1/#comment-420348</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite the GOP marketing machine, Clinton has been the most fiscally conservative president of the past 30 years (queue JimmyDhimmiâ€™s nonsenseical the Republicanâ€™s made him do it response)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I never said that Republicans made him do it.  I like Bubba.  He was a good president.  He was a true bi-partisan when it came to welfare reform and free-trade agreements.  His greatest failing was not seeing the threat of Islamic Radicalism.  I always complain about this surplus revenue fetish you have, when all Clinton did to get it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.optimist123.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/rethinking_the_surplus.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cut military and intelligence spending.&lt;/a&gt;  You can run a defecit as long as you grow the economy in kind.  Cutting military and intelligence spending was nearsighted considering wave after wave of terrorist attacks against us and our interests throughout the 1990&#039;s.  

Also, don&#039;t forget that we had a bad recession beginning in the last year of Clinton, because like today, much of our economy was build on a house of cards.  This time it was mortgage-backed securities, then it was dot-com and tech stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Despite the GOP marketing machine, Clinton has been the most fiscally conservative president of the past 30 years (queue JimmyDhimmiâ€™s nonsenseical the Republicanâ€™s made him do it response)</p></blockquote>
<p>I never said that Republicans made him do it.  I like Bubba.  He was a good president.  He was a true bi-partisan when it came to welfare reform and free-trade agreements.  His greatest failing was not seeing the threat of Islamic Radicalism.  I always complain about this surplus revenue fetish you have, when all Clinton did to get it was <a href="http://www.optimist123.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/rethinking_the_surplus.gif" >cut military and intelligence spending.</a>  You can run a defecit as long as you grow the economy in kind.  Cutting military and intelligence spending was nearsighted considering wave after wave of terrorist attacks against us and our interests throughout the 1990&#8242;s.  </p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t forget that we had a bad recession beginning in the last year of Clinton, because like today, much of our economy was build on a house of cards.  This time it was mortgage-backed securities, then it was dot-com and tech stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donklephant &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] us look forward. What can we expect? As ASC points out, some worrywarts are concerned whether an impotent Republican minority will be able to restrain the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-1/#comment-420340</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, I&#039;m glad to hear this isn&#039;t a sudden &quot;oh crap, the dems could be in charge&quot; thing, and the idea of divided government was part of the reason I voted for Kerry/Dem in 2004 and 2006.  I just had to bring this up b/c I&#039;ve seen this &quot;divided government good&quot; idea coming from places that were plenty happy when the GOP was in charge of everything, so I&#039;m just a little suspicious now.

This is probably my biggest worry about the likely Democratic gains, but the I don&#039;t think the current Republican party deserves any significant say right now.  They were too obstructionist during the current congress for my taste, and until &quot;tax cuts&quot; stops being their answer for every economic problem, I just can&#039;t take them seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, I&#8217;m glad to hear this isn&#8217;t a sudden &#8220;oh crap, the dems could be in charge&#8221; thing, and the idea of divided government was part of the reason I voted for Kerry/Dem in 2004 and 2006.  I just had to bring this up b/c I&#8217;ve seen this &#8220;divided government good&#8221; idea coming from places that were plenty happy when the GOP was in charge of everything, so I&#8217;m just a little suspicious now.</p>
<p>This is probably my biggest worry about the likely Democratic gains, but the I don&#8217;t think the current Republican party deserves any significant say right now.  They were too obstructionist during the current congress for my taste, and until &#8220;tax cuts&#8221; stops being their answer for every economic problem, I just can&#8217;t take them seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: gerryf</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerryf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MW, 

As noted, I do not feel completely comfortable with complete Democratic control--but I also am of the opinion that one party in control can act more quickly and I think quick is needed.

I do not completely dismiss yourtheory on divided government--I only disagree with blind adherence to it. 

In the current situation, I believe that the Democrats have every reason in the world after having had their tails kicked for most of the past 30 years to &quot;do it right.&quot;  Furthermore, I think Obama is very aware of his status as the first minority president and he wants to create a legacy that will not discourage others.

I find it hard to believe the Dems or Obama would risk throwing everything back into the GOPs hands in a two-year power grab...too optimistic? Perhaps, but I until shown otherwise I generally think the best of people.

ExiledIndependent,

I don&#039;t believe I said that the GOP = fiscal conservative. In fact, the total abandonment of fiscal conservatism is one of the three reasons I have come to loathe the GOP in the last 8 years.

I have generally voted throughout my life along with the fiscal conservative crowd, meaning while I consider myself an independent, I have leaned more right than left. Under Bush, fiscal conservatism has become a hypocritical slogan of the GOP.

Despite the GOP marketing machine, Clinton has been the most fiscally conservative president of the past 30 years (queue JimmyDhimmi&#039;s nonsenseical the Republican&#039;s made him do it response)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MW, </p>
<p>As noted, I do not feel completely comfortable with complete Democratic control&#8211;but I also am of the opinion that one party in control can act more quickly and I think quick is needed.</p>
<p>I do not completely dismiss yourtheory on divided government&#8211;I only disagree with blind adherence to it. </p>
<p>In the current situation, I believe that the Democrats have every reason in the world after having had their tails kicked for most of the past 30 years to &#8220;do it right.&#8221;  Furthermore, I think Obama is very aware of his status as the first minority president and he wants to create a legacy that will not discourage others.</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe the Dems or Obama would risk throwing everything back into the GOPs hands in a two-year power grab&#8230;too optimistic? Perhaps, but I until shown otherwise I generally think the best of people.</p>
<p>ExiledIndependent,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I said that the GOP = fiscal conservative. In fact, the total abandonment of fiscal conservatism is one of the three reasons I have come to loathe the GOP in the last 8 years.</p>
<p>I have generally voted throughout my life along with the fiscal conservative crowd, meaning while I consider myself an independent, I have leaned more right than left. Under Bush, fiscal conservatism has become a hypocritical slogan of the GOP.</p>
<p>Despite the GOP marketing machine, Clinton has been the most fiscally conservative president of the past 30 years (queue JimmyDhimmi&#8217;s nonsenseical the Republican&#8217;s made him do it response)</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy the Dhimmi</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-1/#comment-420336</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy the Dhimmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The free market is a wonderful means for profit and efficiency maximization. Itâ€™s clear that a de-regulated healthcare market is great for making Viagraâ€™s and and other popular (and very profitable) drugs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have cured hypercholesterolemia, vaccinated against cervical cancer, successfully treated manic depression, not to mention all of the medical technology advancements, like remote laproscopic surgery, brain-stimulators for epileptics and parkinsons patients, as well as advanced imaging and hospital networking technology all through the free market.

NIH-funded research is good for uncovering the basic quandaries of nature, so as to provide a foundation for technological innovation, but rarely the innovation itself.  A socialized system not only forces taxpayers to fund distribution of treatment, but also the research itself.  What do you think gets cut first?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The free market is a wonderful means for profit and efficiency maximization. Itâ€™s clear that a de-regulated healthcare market is great for making Viagraâ€™s and and other popular (and very profitable) drugs.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have cured hypercholesterolemia, vaccinated against cervical cancer, successfully treated manic depression, not to mention all of the medical technology advancements, like remote laproscopic surgery, brain-stimulators for epileptics and parkinsons patients, as well as advanced imaging and hospital networking technology all through the free market.</p>
<p>NIH-funded research is good for uncovering the basic quandaries of nature, so as to provide a foundation for technological innovation, but rarely the innovation itself.  A socialized system not only forces taxpayers to fund distribution of treatment, but also the research itself.  What do you think gets cut first?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Stewart Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Stewart Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: I&#039;d hope they did, otherwise they&#039;d be hypocrites. Speaking for myself, I voted Kerry in 2004 and supported the Dems efforts to take Congress in 2006. I&#039;m not as devoted to the divided government cause as MW, but my attraction to it is one of the reasons I&#039;m undecided in this election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: I&#8217;d hope they did, otherwise they&#8217;d be hypocrites. Speaking for myself, I voted Kerry in 2004 and supported the Dems efforts to take Congress in 2006. I&#8217;m not as devoted to the divided government cause as MW, but my attraction to it is one of the reasons I&#8217;m undecided in this election.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim S
I&#039;m making a prediction, but for your benefit - fixed now. 

Always happy to accommodate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim S<br />
I&#8217;m making a prediction, but for your benefit &#8211; fixed now. </p>
<p>Always happy to accommodate.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless the divided government fans had the same concerns about the GOP being in charge in both 2004 and 2006, I don&#039;t find this line of argument remotely persuasive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the divided government fans had the same concerns about the GOP being in charge in both 2004 and 2006, I don&#8217;t find this line of argument remotely persuasive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
However, if you believe like Jim S, &lt;b&gt;that only 51% of electorate possess the white hot truth of what America needs, and the other 49% should have no say and no seat at the table well&lt;/b&gt; - lets just stay on this path and give the Dems all the keys. The result is depressingly predictable.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Check your math, mw, check your math.</description>
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However, if you believe like Jim S, <b>that only 51% of electorate possess the white hot truth of what America needs, and the other 49% should have no say and no seat at the table well</b> &#8211; lets just stay on this path and give the Dems all the keys. The result is depressingly predictable.
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<p>Check your math, mw, check your math.</p>
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		<title>By: ExileIndependent</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExileIndependent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerry, don&#039;t confuse &quot;conservative&quot; with &quot;republican.&quot;  They have become, in the last 16 years, radically different things.  Republicans haven&#039;t adopted small government, tight fiscal policies for well over a decade.  There currently is no major party for fiscal conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gerry, don&#8217;t confuse &#8220;conservative&#8221; with &#8220;republican.&#8221;  They have become, in the last 16 years, radically different things.  Republicans haven&#8217;t adopted small government, tight fiscal policies for well over a decade.  There currently is no major party for fiscal conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-1/#comment-420322</link>
		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mw - I&#039;m as sceptical as you, but the only accountability Congress will have it so their constituents.   We&#039;re a part of this process - that&#039;s my point, and if enough of us let them know we&#039;re watching, it may (may) have some impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mw &#8211; I&#8217;m as sceptical as you, but the only accountability Congress will have it so their constituents.   We&#8217;re a part of this process &#8211; that&#8217;s my point, and if enough of us let them know we&#8217;re watching, it may (may) have some impact.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;&quot;...begging them to set up internal checks and balances to off-set corrupting temptations&quot;&lt;/i&gt; - mm&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah. That&#039;ll work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8220;&#8230;begging them to set up internal checks and balances to off-set corrupting temptations&#8221;</i> &#8211; mm</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah. That&#8217;ll work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s mw when you need him....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s mw when you need him&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@gerryf
True, the Republicans have zero credibility based on the record of the first six years. As long as you are locked into Red vs Blue thinking, you are stuck with a false choice between Republicans or Democrats. 

Historically, any time you give either party all the keys you get out increased spending, fiscal irresponsibility, abuse of power and increased corruption. It happens with the GOP, it happens with the Dems.  Every time. 

It is seductive to think we need to have One Party Rule under the Dems to undo the damage to civil liberties we saw under One Party Rule with the GOP. But if we give them all the keys, it won&#039;t happen that way. Far more likely, is a wholesale erosion of economic freedoms piled on, plus freedom of speech attacked with a Fairness Doctrine and campaign finance &quot;reform&quot;.   

Giving both sides a share of the power is the only way to limit the damage. 

However, if you believe like Jim S, that only &lt;strike&gt;51%&lt;/strike&gt; 54%  of electorate possess the white hot truth of what America needs, and the other &lt;strike&gt;49%&lt;/strike&gt; 46% should have no say and no seat at the table well - lets just stay on this path and give the Dems all the keys. The result is depressingly predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@gerryf<br />
True, the Republicans have zero credibility based on the record of the first six years. As long as you are locked into Red vs Blue thinking, you are stuck with a false choice between Republicans or Democrats. </p>
<p>Historically, any time you give either party all the keys you get out increased spending, fiscal irresponsibility, abuse of power and increased corruption. It happens with the GOP, it happens with the Dems.  Every time. </p>
<p>It is seductive to think we need to have One Party Rule under the Dems to undo the damage to civil liberties we saw under One Party Rule with the GOP. But if we give them all the keys, it won&#8217;t happen that way. Far more likely, is a wholesale erosion of economic freedoms piled on, plus freedom of speech attacked with a Fairness Doctrine and campaign finance &#8220;reform&#8221;.   </p>
<p>Giving both sides a share of the power is the only way to limit the damage. </p>
<p>However, if you believe like Jim S, that only <strike>51%</strike> 54%  of electorate possess the white hot truth of what America needs, and the other <strike>49%</strike> 46% should have no say and no seat at the table well &#8211; lets just stay on this path and give the Dems all the keys. The result is depressingly predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: mike mcEachran</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike mcEachran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the super-majority happens, I encourage every Democrat to write to his or her Rep and Senator, letting them know they are on notice for two years, and begging them to set up internal checks and balaces to off-set corrupting temptations.  Also, I think the blue-dog Dems will step up to balance the party.  If you&#039;ve got one of those, write them!  If the Dems screw up the first two years, the neo-cons will come roaring back in 2010.  If the Dems do a good job, I predict the extreme right-wing of the Repubs will be done for a long time, and the Repubs will be forced to remake themselves into more (truly) concervative party, and abandon (finally) their fringe.  I may even consider coming home to them if they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the super-majority happens, I encourage every Democrat to write to his or her Rep and Senator, letting them know they are on notice for two years, and begging them to set up internal checks and balaces to off-set corrupting temptations.  Also, I think the blue-dog Dems will step up to balance the party.  If you&#8217;ve got one of those, write them!  If the Dems screw up the first two years, the neo-cons will come roaring back in 2010.  If the Dems do a good job, I predict the extreme right-wing of the Repubs will be done for a long time, and the Repubs will be forced to remake themselves into more (truly) concervative party, and abandon (finally) their fringe.  I may even consider coming home to them if they do.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptainUltimate</title>
		<link>http://donklephant.com/2008/10/17/worrying-about-a-democratic-supermajority/comment-page-1/#comment-420313</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptainUltimate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Rob thoroughly.  The free market is a wonderful means for profit and efficiency maximization.  It&#039;s clear that a de-regulated healthcare market is great for making Viagra&#039;s and and other popular (and very profitable) drugs.  

Actual long-term care, especially for rare or vicious aliments, isn&#039;t something the market allocates well.  We need to correct this, the sooner the better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Rob thoroughly.  The free market is a wonderful means for profit and efficiency maximization.  It&#8217;s clear that a de-regulated healthcare market is great for making Viagra&#8217;s and and other popular (and very profitable) drugs.  </p>
<p>Actual long-term care, especially for rare or vicious aliments, isn&#8217;t something the market allocates well.  We need to correct this, the sooner the better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;ltimately, we could lose choice, lose quality and have no recourse because the government plan would be impossible to repeal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We have already lost choice.  If you wife had cancer, and you are self employed; try getting insurance.

I am too young for medicare, but am financially able to retire.  I can not because we can not get health care at any price.  

Insurance should be nationalized.  If you leave to business they only want to insure the healthy people.  The whole point of insurance it to spread the risk. 

I paid insurance for over 30 years, with no real claims except when our kids were born.  Now that we need insurance, no one wants us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ltimately, we could lose choice, lose quality and have no recourse because the government plan would be impossible to repeal.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have already lost choice.  If you wife had cancer, and you are self employed; try getting insurance.</p>
<p>I am too young for medicare, but am financially able to retire.  I can not because we can not get health care at any price.  </p>
<p>Insurance should be nationalized.  If you leave to business they only want to insure the healthy people.  The whole point of insurance it to spread the risk. </p>
<p>I paid insurance for over 30 years, with no real claims except when our kids were born.  Now that we need insurance, no one wants us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what if we do leave the current version of the Republican Party with enough seats to filibuster or at least threaten it credibly? Bill after bill unable to pass purely for political advantage with no regard to what it really means to the country is what I would foresee with the current leadership. The supermajority can be changed in two years if they are that irresponsible. Of course it&#039;s also been years since anyone outside of Republican loyalists have been able to take the WSJ op-eds all that seriously anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what if we do leave the current version of the Republican Party with enough seats to filibuster or at least threaten it credibly? Bill after bill unable to pass purely for political advantage with no regard to what it really means to the country is what I would foresee with the current leadership. The supermajority can be changed in two years if they are that irresponsible. Of course it&#8217;s also been years since anyone outside of Republican loyalists have been able to take the WSJ op-eds all that seriously anyway.</p>
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